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[Zimwillett]

tucker is 6'5 and plays the 4 in the nba dramond green is 6'6 and plays the 4 and the 5 in the nba .. .

also tucker didn't start off in the nba after college he had to play in the then d leage and then go to europe first .. for 5 years

I think Tucker is kind of an exception who proves the rule. Can a guy who is 6'6" play the 4 in the modern NBA? Sure. You've named one. But Tucker and Doolittle are very different sorts of players. If you watch much of him, Tucker is a surprisingly athletic guy who also happens to be a two legged ox who can shoot 3s.

Another poster mentioned Draymond Green. I'm not going to even entertain the notion that Doolittle and Draymond Green possess anything close to the same sort of athletic profile. That's just not a conversation worth having.

Kenrich Williams is the guy who should give Doolittle some hope, but as others have said, I think Williams is longer (not necessarily taller) and more athletic than Doo.

Again, I never said it wasn't possible, but I think we, as fans, tend to overrate the professional prospects of our favorite players.

 

[AdaSooner]

I thought shot selection was much improved last night. Except for Reaves. He appears to be forcing things a lot lately. Manek is good when he sticks to what he does well.

Agreed. Reaves also needs to stick to what he does well: go back to being a spot up shooter, work to get open without the ball and be ready to shoot within rhythm. He’s a much better three point shooter than his 28% average indicates.

Maybe his tendency to go one on one in an attempt to create his own shot is by design. It’s not unusual for OU’s offense to morph into a one on one move when an open shot fails to materialize after two or three passes.

Nothing wrong with that when it works. But IMO, that’s not necessarily sound strategy for our best three point shooter, as evidenced by his average so far this season. It made perfectly good sense for Rashard Odomes, but not for Austin Reaves.

 

[stormspencer]

Who would you compare him to that’s in the league now?

A slightly smaller Al Horford.

 

[steverocks35]

Kenrich Williams is 6'6 215lbs Power Forward in the NBA who shoots 26% from 3. He's a small ball 4 in the NBA, which is what Doolittle would be after a few years in the G-League or overseas.

Kenrich Williams last year at TCU:
FG% .477
3pt % .395
FT% .688
MPG 36.0
PPG 13.2
RPG 9.3
APG 3.9

Doolittle this year:
MPG 32.3
FG% .470
3PT% .538
FT% .809
PPG 17.3
RPG 9.0
APG 1.7

Now obviously Doolittle won't shoot 54% from 3 all year, but scouts say they look at college FT% more than 3pt% to see how they'll do in the NBA.

His nickname is "Kenny Hustle." He is a scrappy defender and spot up shooter. Do you really think that describes Doolittle? Not at all. Doolittle is a guy with mostly a mid-range game and is more than competent at shooting the college 3 pointer against smaller defenders, but doing that in the NBA is a different story than in college. And by the way, who does Doolittle guard in the NBA? He's not that hard-nosed defender that the NBA requires you to be if you're a tweener. I love Doolittle, like I said in the game thread, he's amazing, but I don't see him as an NBA player. I remember everyone here saying they thought Romero Osby or Aaron McGhee were going to be long-term NBA players. Doolittle is that same kind of guy, maybe not as tough as Osby or as smooth as Ace, but he's in that mold.

 

[Zimwillett]

A slightly smaller Al Horford.

OK. Now we've gone completely off the deep end.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

If we'd hit our free throws at our typical rate and made a reasonable number of the shots that we took from point-blank range, we might have won by 25 points.

Maybe it is just me, but we seem to have been a terrible point blank/layup team under Kruger

 

[steverocks35]

A slightly smaller Al Horford.

You guys need to take off your crimson glasses, come on now. Horford is 6' 10". Doolittle is probably, maybe, 6' 6" tall.

 

[jaymOU]

I thought shot selection was much improved last night. Except for Reaves. He appears to be forcing things a lot lately. Manek is good when he sticks to what he does well.

Agree for the most part. I still think Reaves and Manek force a few threes, but they are the best shooters, so I see it. Williams was 2-3 from 3 as well. If Williams, JB and Davion can make open 3s - this team with Doo's penetration and iso game will be tough to defend for most teams.

 

[stormspencer]

OK. Now we've gone completely off the deep end.

Didn't say he was anything close to having Horford's talent, but that is the guy who Doo reminds me of in the league....in regards to his "game" or offensive "skill set".

I think Doo plays overseas.

 

[Soonercpa2011]

Awwww you sound like you’re emotionally distressed. I’m Sorry

Nope. Happy as can be watching the “terrible” Sooners keep winning!!

 

[jaymOU]

You guys need to take off your crimson glasses, come on now. Horford is 6' 10". Doolittle is probably, maybe, 6' 6" tall.

Could he be like Najera? He stayed in the league for a long time.

Is he better than Deandre Burton - he's been in the league for 2 or 3 years now. Similar build and size. Burton might be a bit more explosive, but Doo has a much better mid-range game.

 

[daqman]

OK. Now we've gone completely off the deep end.

It's amusing to watch the board discussion go from "zero talent" to "in which round will Doo get drafted". And "Reaves will play pg in the NBA". Couple more good games from Harmon/JB and we'll have 4 first rounders on this team.

 

[BoulderSooner]

grant williams celtics

 

[sheepdogs1]

I think Tucker is kind of an exception who proves the rule. Can a guy who is 6'6" play the 4 in the modern NBA? Sure. You've named one. But Tucker and Doolittle are very different sorts of players. If you watch much of him, Tucker is a surprisingly athletic guy who also happens to be a two legged ox who can shoot 3s.

Another poster mentioned Draymond Green. I'm not going to even entertain the notion that Doolittle and Draymond Green possess anything close to the same sort of athletic profile. That's just not a conversation worth having.

Kenrich Williams is the guy who should give Doolittle some hope, but as others have said, I think Williams is longer (not necessarily taller) and more athletic than Doo.

Again, I never said it wasn't possible, but I think we, as fans, tend to overrate the professional prospects of our favorite players.

Reminds me of the talk about Khadeem Lattin.

 

[Zimwillett]

Could he be like Najera? He stayed in the league for a long time.

Is he better than Deandre Burton - he's been in the league for 2 or 3 years now. Similar build and size. Burton might be a bit more explosive, but Doo has a much better mid-range game.

Burton was a 2 way last season. This is his first year on a full time NBA contract, and I think it is close to being his last.

I think the poster above who brought up Ro Osby and Ace McGhee were more on the money. I can't emphasize enough how much I hope I am wrong, but I just don't see it for Doolittle. Playing the 3/4 in the NBA is about a lot more than just having a nice mid range game at 6'6" or 6'7".

 

[steverocks35]

Could he be like Najera? He stayed in the league for a long time.

Is he better than Deandre Burton - he's been in the league for 2 or 3 years now. Similar build and size. Burton might be a bit more explosive, but Doo has a much better mid-range game.

Doolittle is very skilled, I love the guy, but he's a tweener, he won't be able to do the things in the NBA that he does in college. He won't be able to get to any spot he wants on the floor. NBA teams aren't going to run plays for him or give him the ball to work in the mid-range. If he wants to make it in the league he has to become a super-tough scrapper/defender and spot-up shooter when the guards kick it out on drives. I don't see him being that, but he will make a ton of money overseas and probably get to live in an amazing city.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

Could he be like Najera? He stayed in the league for a long time.

Is he better than Deandre Burton - he's been in the league for 2 or 3 years now. Similar build and size. Burton might be a bit more explosive, but Doo has a much better mid-range game.

Burton is a ton more explosive and 6’4”

 

[Darwin]

IMO Doo's NBA future is about whether he can D on the wing. His offensive skill only need's to be making 25% of the wide open 3's he is given. If they think he can make 33% he'll be moving up. If you say he can't D at the combine then his O skills certainly won't be enough.

 

[steverocks35]

IMO Doo's NBA future is about whether he can D on the wing. His offensive skill only need's to be making 25% of the wide open 3's he is given. If they think he can make 33% he'll be moving up. If you say he can't D at the combine then his O skills certainly won't be enough.

I agree, and who is he going to defend on the wing? SGA would eat him alive. A guy like Tobias Harris would score 40 against him. He just isn't that kind of defender.

 

[sperry]

Do we think Beard takes the Texas job this offseason?