sam godwin

If the doctors clear him and Sam wants to give it ago, I say let him. I suspect he would see limited minutes if he plays.
 
WichitaSooner said:
I have no idea if he will play, but seems odd that Moser told the broadcast crew they were hopeful he would play this week. Then again, I guess he did the same with JN and Jones. I still fail to see the logic in getting people's hopes up for no reason. Makes no sense.
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You’re surprised when a coach is overly optimistic about an injury in a public setting?
 
WichitaSooner said:
I have no idea if he will play, but seems odd that Moser told the broadcast crew they were hopeful he would play this week. Then again, I guess he did the same with JN and Jones. I still fail to see the logic in getting people's hopes up for no reason. Makes no sense.
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I guess the difference between Godwin and JN/Jones is that Godwin will actually appear on the availability report since he's played in games already. So, we'll have a better idea on Tuesday night.
 
WichitaSooner said:
I have no idea if he will play, but seems odd that Moser told the broadcast crew they were hopeful he would play this week. Then again, I guess he did the same with JN and Jones. I still fail to see the logic in getting people's hopes up for no reason. Makes no sense.
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Makes sense. Read between the lines. PM was using psyops on at least one of them (Jones). Public shaming if you will. Didn't work. Underutilized nowadays, IMHO.
 
You guys are right about the Godwin slander................who needs a guy who had hit 19 shots in a row? Shaking my head..........🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
 
BoulderSooner said:
OU has been better with Wague on the court all season ..
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I agree with the possible exception of the last 2-3 games when it appears (albeit possibly temporarily) that Godwin has been able to keep his eyes on the rim while shooting. That said, we still needed Wague in there a lot - way more than the time he was given. My concern now is Godwin’s recent performances vs Northweather’s recent performances. I trust Godwin more even though Northweather can pleasantly surprise at times. But if Northweather has to play a lot due to Wague fouls I just have to think he is going to get battered inside eventually. Have to hope his 3 ball falls a few times to offset that.
 
opsooner said:
I agree with the possible exception of the last 2-3 games when it appears (albeit possibly temporarily) that Godwin has been able to keep his eyes on the rim while shooting. That said, we still needed Wague in there a lot - way more than the time he was given. My concern now is Godwin’s recent performances vs Northweather’s recent performances. I trust Godwin more even though Northweather can pleasantly surprise at times. But if Northweather has to play a lot due to Wague fouls I just have to think he is going to get battered inside eventually. Have to hope his 3 ball falls a few times to offset that.
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now that i very much agree with .. . Godwin over northweather ..

but i think for the most part going small is better then godwin or northweather ..
 
Listen, I want him healthy if he can help and play like he has the last few games, but let's not act like he is a world beater. He is a bench big, starting G5 center.

He has had 4, maybe 5, good games all year.

The only SEC games he played okay (serviceable) in were: Bama, A&M (pushing this one), Miss St, Ole Miss, Missouri.

I am glad he is finally figuring it out, but prior to Miss St game he was unplayable almost all year. Moser would even agree, bc he didn't hit over 20 MPG very often come SEC time until lately.
 
Well, I have, since before the season started, thought Wague should have been starting and playing until he fouled out. However, like Boulder, I certainly would play Sam before Luke at the 5. I think Sam is a good player that is just athletically outmatched sometimes. I wouldn't start Wague over Sam because Sam isn't any good, I just think with enough minutes, Wague's upside, particularly on defense is higher. Played as much as possible all year, I think Wague would be much better than he is now. But, I like Sam and think he usually plays pretty well.

On Luke. I don't know how Porter sees him. If Luke, or anyone else, thinks he can play on the perimeter defensively, I believe them to be delusional. I like Luke's potential inside. He is soft, but that can sometimes be fixed, with the right mentorship and coaching. I would have liked Porter to tell Luke, his first year in the program, he would need to become a post player, and work around the clock on being a post player, or he would never make it at OU. Let Luke decide whether to "get with the program" or move on. OU needs post players. I think Luke could be a post. But, you can't let the kid run around in practice and games outside the 3 point line and shoot 3 pointers. We don't get to go to practice with Porter (I did once this year) but physical positioning around the rim is a taught skill, as is offensive play around the rim where every shot is guarded. Luke clearly has no idea what he is doing around the rim, and clearly hasn't put in the hours and hours of getting guarded shots to the rim from near the basket. Sure he can hit layups and put backs but that isn't what I am talking about.

For example, Eddie Sutton would have, provided Luke had given him a couple year to do it, made Luke an acceptable or competitive post, IMO. So, I like Luke, and I think he is improving. I trust Godwin in the post more than him at the moment. I would like to see Luke stay, I just hope he comes to the realization of what he needs to do to maximize his potential as a basketball player. EPL might want to be a cornerback, but his only future in football is on the line of scrimmage. And, practicing at cornerback every day will not make him a good lineman.

Back in the day, I went to a number of practices when Tubbs was coach. His post players always spend the entire practice working on getting position to catch and shoot the ball around the rim. He didn't want them to dribble unless they absolutely had to, and he didn't want them to ask for the ball unless they were in a position to shoot in conjunction with the catch. He never wanted the ball in and/or around the paint for more than a moment. Inside positioning was not something you did when the ball went up on the rim, but was a continual process every minute of the game. Tisdale was a great post scorer, David Johnson was a great post scorer (even though only -67, William Davis was a good inside scorer (maybe 6'6), Webster, Grant, King and I could go on. There is a real art to inside offensive play and it can be taught. Of course, not everyone will buy in even if taught. I think Luke is getting better on defending in the post. Never going to be a rim protector, but you don't have to be to be a good defender. Getting better on rebounding as well, but he has a ways to go. He doesn't start positioning nearly early enough.
 
We have three bigs, none of whom is very good. They are very different players with different styles. None of them would be starting on a better roster. Because they are all unreliable, prone to fouls, and more likely to play poorly than to play well, it's scary if you only have two of three available. It also gives you five fewer fouls to play with. That's the main reason why it would not be good to be without Sam. I can easily see Mo getting in foul trouble, Luke going 0-3 from the floor and getting abused on defense, and us being in a very difficult position. If Cole hadn't been in hibernation for three months, he would be an option, but I just don't see that happening (although Cooper was one of our best players in the slaughter by TCU last March after not getting any PT for months). Can a Moore/Taylor combo manage to avoid getting killed inside to allow us to use them together for extended minutes? I think we will likely find out if Sam is out.
 
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