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[campbest]

I don't know the rules but a free throw had been taken. That should prevent any review of old plays or you could back and review the first play of the game. However, we are talking about Big XII officials and KU. Therefore, I was nervous they would screw us.

No it shouldn't. There are only a handful of correctable errors in basketball, this is one of them. The free throw would have not been taken away and Cam Clark would have been allowed to shoot his second KU would have then shot two free throws and received the ball at the spot of the foul.

You can't complain about the OSU kid running on the court and not calling a technical, then completely ignore a provision for contact about the shoulders in an OU game.

If you look at the very last time they replay the sequence (it's the only time they show this particular angle), the only thing Cam's elbow touches is thin air. If you read the refs (the short one on the right) lips, when they're talking to Self about it, it looks like they say no contact (there are a couple of guys on RockChalk who are saying the same thing, FWIW).

Agreed. They definitely got it right.

 

[campbest]

Even if there was contact (I feel confident there wasn't), how could it be reviewed after a free throw had already been shot? And it certainly wouldn't negate the foul that KU clearly committed.

It wouldn't negate the KU foul, Clark would still get his second.

 

[skyvue]

It wouldn't negate the KU foul, Clark would still get his second.

Then the review should never have occurred between Cam's two free throws. They should have let Cam shoot his second shot, and then called out time out and conducted the review.

 

[campbest]

Then the review should never have occurred between Cam's two free throws. They should have let Cam shoot his second shot, and then called out time out and conducted the review.

That's not how the rule works. In order for your scenario to work, KU could only call the timeout after some time had elapsed if Clark misses the FT. At that point, the prior play is void due to elapsed time on the game clock and no review is conducted.

 

[CobraKai]

Then the review should never have occurred between Cam's two free throws. They should have let Cam shoot his second shot, and then called out time out and conducted the review.

Exactly. Conducting the review is fine. They should do that if they think an elbow to the head occurred. Doing it between free throws was bizarre, and should not have happened.

 

[CobraKai]

That's not how the rule works. In order for your scenario to work, KU could only call the timeout after some time had elapsed if Clark misses the FT. At that point, the prior play is void due to elapsed time on the game clock and no review is conducted.

I guess that makes sense. I hadn't thought about the missed second free throw scenario.