Underwood headed to Illinois

stormspencer said:
This from an OSU board:

Let's not BBQ Holder just yet. If Underwood came to me wanting a raise, I'd ask him to justify it. He'd probably say - I finished 5th in the best league, and I made the tournament.

As Holder I would say - you finished 5th in the league, that's average, you finished 9-9 with only one win against the top 4 and 2 losses against the bottom 5, you lost the first game of the tournament against a 7th place team, your defense was one of the worst in the country, you started 0-6 and ended 0-4. I know they weren't your players, but let's talk after you get your players. If you don't like it (small or no raise?), go sell yourself to someone else.

I don't think that would be an unfair position by Holder. I do think it would be a little premature for Underwood to demand a HUGE raise.

If this is indeed the case, I don't think it is an unreasonable position for Holder to take.
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Can't blame Underwood for leaving either. He's getting 3+ million a year for 6 years. Next year, he'd be set to make 1.1 million. Why in the hell would you stick around a place when you can TRIPLE your salary?


If Holder truly said you don't deserve a raise, then don't be upset or mad when said coach leaves you for something better.
 
ByronHoustonsSweatyPalms said:
That hasn't been the problem. Smart and Evans were pretty highly regarded


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I think historically the recruiting at Stillwater has been pretty good during and since Eddie. They recruit to stillwater pretty well.
 
At any other school, a golf pro would not be put in charge of a $50 million business. And even if he were, he would've been fired for poor performance long ago.

But stillborn is not any other school. One would think that a benefit of whoring out to Pickens would be unlimited funds. However, apparently that isn't the case. Stupid stupid Aggies.
 
Crimson King said:
At any other school, a golf pro would not be put in charge of a $50 million business. And even if he were, he would've been fired for poor performance long ago.

But stillborn is not any other school. One would think that a benefit of whoring out to Pickens would be unlimited funds. However, apparently that isn't the case. Stupid stupid Aggies.
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Booger specified Holder had to become AD before he would give them the big bucks. I think they had been in bed together for quite a few years. I think Booger was investing for Holder. They are both a-holes, thus the mutual attraction.
 
I think its funny everyone thinks osu just lost this deal horribly... He got a freakin 10 seed lol
 
It's funny because OSU just got put in their place as Brad Underwood used their coaching position as one year stepping stone. I know everyone loves to rip on Capel, but he could have had his choice of a number of good jobs after the Blake Griffin Elite 8 run with a top 10 recruiting class coming in, and he chose to stay at OU. Dude just bolted OSU the first chance a decent team offered him a job.


That being said, I think they could still upgrade. I'm not sold on Underwood being some great coach. I would like the Gottlieb hire a lot if they make it. It's risky, but could pay huge dividends.
 
would put odds they hire gotlib as a reaction to underwood taking off after a year instead of doing a real search....I don't see that ending well
 
thegreyghost said:
would put odds they hire gotlib as a reaction to underwood taking off after a year instead of doing a real search....I don't see that ending well
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If you were a high school kid would you sign with a guy who had never coached college basketball before?
 
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