What do you want to see happen with OU's conference situation?

[thebigabd]

Cast your vote.

 

[boksooner]

I voted for the Pac-12, because I do not have faith that Beebe can bring in quality enough programs to keep the Big XII strong. Houston, Memphis and Central Florida aren't even to keep the conference strong, and there is no way ND, BYU and Arkansas are walking through that door.

 

[WTSooner]

I voted for adding new members and keeping the Big 12. Really, what "quality" of schools would we have to add to be where we are at now, or even before NU and CU left? NU wasn't a big tv market. We probably maintain a big tv share in Houston even without aTm. Denver was a decent market, but not irreplaceable.

We don't need ND, BYU, and Arkansas to replace aTm, NU, and CU. Something like Louisville, Houston, and BYU probably puts you at the same prestige level, or maybe even higher.

The Big 12 has been about OU and UT since it's inception. Those two schools are still here.

 

[Tony]

I voted for the Pac-12 because the road trips are better. I am a simple man.

 

[CoachTalk]

I voted to stay with the Big 12. I know its probably not going to happen, but being a young guy. Im kind of partial to the Big 12...

 

[thebigabd]

I voted for adding new members and keeping the Big 12. Really, what "quality" of schools would we have to add to be where we are at now, or even before NU and CU left? NU wasn't a big tv market. We probably maintain a big tv share in Houston even without aTm. Denver was a decent market, but not irreplaceable.

We don't need ND, BYU, and Arkansas to replace aTm, NU, and CU. Something like Louisville, Houston, and BYU probably puts you at the same prestige level, or maybe even higher.

The Big 12 has been about OU and UT since it's inception. Those two schools are still here.

I also voted for adding new members.

Colorado sucks at everything and you could replace them easily. Pick up Louisville and you got an upgrade.

Texas A&M is pretty good at basketball and pretty good at football, but they have male cheerleaders and have a strange sense of accomplishment, although they have achieved nothing. Pick up Houston and watch them grow into a better program and still keep that city/market (houston).

Replace Nebraska with BYU, and you have an upgrade.

If you can't get BYU, get Central Florida and add a gigantic school with brand new athletic facilities, a high profile football coach, and a new TV market.

 

[p230]

I would like to see us add new quality members....That being said I don't think it is going to happen.

 

[sperry]

I also voted for adding new members.

Colorado sucks at everything and you could replace them easily. Pick up Louisville and you got an upgrade.

Texas A&M is pretty good at basketball and pretty good at football, but they have male cheerleaders and have a strange sense of accomplishment, although they have achieved nothing. Pick up Houston and watch them grow into a better program and still keep that city/market (houston).

Replace Nebraska with BYU, and you have an upgrade.

If you can't get BYU, get Central Florida and add a gigantic school with brand new athletic facilities, a high profile football coach, and a new TV market.

The problem is, no one cares about Central Florida and Houston. You aren't getting new markets by adding those teams. The city of Houston does not care about the Houston Cougars. Non-alumni are fans of Texas or aTm, and I would imagine even a good portion of the alums consider themselves UT or aTm fans rather than UH fans.


Same goes for UCF. People in Orlando are Florida or Florida St. fans, not UCF fans. Adding these schools does nothing but create deadweight that we OU and Texas have to share revenue with. Time to get out of this sorry excuse for a conference.

 

[thebigabd]

The problem is, no one cares about Central Florida and Houston. You aren't getting new markets by adding those teams. The city of Houston does not care about the Houston Cougars. Non-alumni are fans of Texas or aTm, and I would imagine even a good portion of the alums consider themselves UT or aTm fans rather than UH fans.


Same goes for UCF. People in Orlando are Florida or Florida St. fans, not UCF fans. Adding these schools does nothing but create deadweight that we OU and Texas have to share revenue with. Time to get out of this sorry excuse for a conference.

People in Denver couldn't care less about CU, yet people still talk about the Denver tv market.

 

[boksooner]

People in Denver couldn't care less about CU, yet people still talk about the Denver tv market.

Those people are just as wrong as you are. Anyone who has spent any time in Denver can tell you that no one there cares about the Buffaloes. Denver is a pro town.

 

[WTSooner]

Those people are just as wrong as you are. Anyone who has spent any time in Denver can tell you that no one there cares about the Buffaloes. Denver is a pro town.

That was his point.

 

[boksooner]

That was his point.

Then why is he still claiming that Houston and C. Florida will bring their city's respective tv markets, if he knows the argument isn't valid?

 

[bocabull]

I want to keep the Big XII and add only Houston. And then change the bylaws to add some extremely punitive penalty for anybody that tries to leave within the next 15 years (Missouri).

 

[thebigabd]

Then why is he still claiming that Houston and C. Florida will bring their city's respective tv markets, if he knows the argument isn't valid?

Im saying that it doesnt matter.

Anyone who has spent any time in Denver can tell you that no one there cares about the Buffaloes. Denver is a pro town.

I know, I live there.

 

[qwertyqaz]

Im saying that it doesnt matter.

"Pick up Houston and watch them grow into a better program and still keep that city/market (houston)."

"...get Central Florida and add a gigantic school with brand new athletic facilities, a high profile football coach, and a new TV market."

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I think this is where some of the confusion in the posts lies...

 

[campbest]

I voted Pac-12 because of the opportunity to hang with Boca in Scottsdale. Make this happen.

 

[thebigabd]

"Pick up Houston and watch them grow into a better program and still keep that city/market (houston)."

"...get Central Florida and add a gigantic school with brand new athletic facilities, a high profile football coach, and a new TV market."

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I think this is where some of the confusion in the posts lies...

Adding Central Florida does add a new TV market, and adding Houston does allow you to keep that city. But, just like Colorado, just because its not the #1 draw in town doesnt mean you didnt add that market.

Ultimately, its not really important. It wasnt a big deal that nobody in Denver cares about CU, and it wouldnt be a big deal if people in Orlando dont care about Central Florida.

 

[bocabull]

I played golf with a guy yesterday who had his CU towel on the bag. He thinks that joining the pac will get CU boosters more involved and help the program.

 

[thebigabd]

I played golf with a guy yesterday who had his CU towel on the bag. He thinks that joining the pac will get CU boosters more involved and help the program.

Unless the Prince of Denver (John Elway) is their head coach, I don't think people in Denver will ever really care about CU.

 

[campbest]

I played golf with a guy yesterday who had his CU towel on the bag. He thinks that joining the pac will get CU boosters more involved and help the program.

Unless the Prince of Denver (John Elway) is their head coach, I don't think people in Denver will ever really care about CU.

Think it is somewhere in the middle, CU has a problem with a lot of their alumni base being located outside the Denver area. There is a reason people joke about CU standing for "California University", just how it is. The support may not reach the level of other schools such as OU, but it would improve.

When your team is continually playing in your time zone, against other local institutions that share a stronger cultural ideal with you...the results are more likely to be positive.