Which Is More Important?

[MsProudSooner]

To be the best player in the world? Or to be on a World Championship team?

There was a discussion about this topic on the Animal yesterday. The general consensus seemed to be that Traber & Mark Rogers were disappointed in Labron James because they felt he had some sort of obligation to try to develop himself into the 'Best Player in the World'. They felt he had given up that goal in order to try to win the NBA Championship.

I know that I have heard many players from many sports say that they would give up an MVP trophy for a team championship trophy. I know that Sam enjoyed winning the Heisman, but I'm pretty sure he would rather have won the NC. Doesn't what Traber & Rogers were saying go against this philosophy?

I'm not a Lebron James fan and I think he handled the entire free agent situation horribly, but I have a hard time criticizing him for trying to win a championship.

 

[Max Power]

To be the best player in the world? Or to be on a World Championship team?

There was a discussion about this topic on the Animal yesterday. The general consensus seemed to be that Traber & Mark Rogers were disappointed in Labron James because they felt he had some sort of obligation to try to develop himself into the 'Best Player in the World'. They felt he had given up that goal in order to try to win the NBA Championship.

I know that I have heard many players from many sports say that they would give up an MVP trophy for a team championship trophy. I know that Sam enjoyed winning the Heisman, but I'm pretty sure he would rather have won the NC. Doesn't what Traber & Rogers were saying go against this philosophy?

I'm not a Lebron James fan and I think he handled the entire free agent situation horribly, but I have a hard time criticizing him for trying to win a championship.

I have no problem with his trying to win a championship, i would do anything to get a ring at any level, but I'm with you he handled it all very horribly. He should have atleast told Cleveland, the team that gave him and his boys everything for 7 years, his decision via phone call before the special. Also, that ESPN special should have never happened.

 

[CoachTalk]

I agree with magic Johnson and Jordan, they had it in them to beat them, not join them. I understand wanting to win a team championship, but they did it themselves not by joining their enemy!
If he thinks winning a championship with dwade and cbosh will be the same as winning one on his own then i think he is kidding himself.
I hope he sells a lot of shoes in the rest of the world, because I think he is a villan in the US now.

 

[Max Power]

I agree with magic Johnson and Jordan, they had it in them to beat them, not join them. I understand wanting to win a team championship, but they did it themselves not by joining their enemy!
If he thinks winning a championship with dwade and cbosh will be the same as winning one on his own then i think he is kidding himself.
I hope he sells a lot of shoes in the rest of the world, because I think he is a villan in the US now.

I agree that it means more to do it alone, but lets face it, LeBron doesn't have it in him to be the man. He proved it in the playoffs this year

And he is more hated than A-Rod, Barry Bonds, and Tiger Woods right now. That is an impressive fall from grace

 

[CoachTalk]

I agree that it means more to do it alone, but lets face it, LeBron doesn't have it in him to be the man. He proved it in the playoffs this year

And he is more hated than A-Rod, Barry Bonds, and Tiger Woods right now. That is an impressive fall from grace

I agree. He didnt have it in him...

ESPN bashes ESPN...

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/post/ESPN-ombudsman-blasts-network-for-LeBron-coverag?urn=top-257681

 

[Max Power]

I agree. He didnt have it in him...

ESPN bashes ESPN...

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/post/ESPN-ombudsman-blasts-network-for-LeBron-coverag?urn=top-257681

Saw that and thought it was hilarious

 

[seniorsooner]

Would you rather be Charles Barkely or Mark Madsen? Karl Malone or Brian Scalibrine?

 

[luckyc1423]

I disagree no one has done it alone

And I would not consider Dwayne levrons big rivalry lol

In my opinion he owed Cleveland nothing. He made them into a contender really without any talent around him. Kobe needed help, celtics needed help... But the cava could never bring in the right help so lebron found it on his own.. You can't fault the guy for that

 

[sanguinetti]

another brainbender on the Sports Animal.

 

[Max Power]

I disagree no one has done it alone

And I would not consider Dwayne levrons big rivalry lol

In my opinion he owed Cleveland nothing. He made them into a contender really without any talent around him. Kobe needed help, celtics needed help... But the cava could never bring in the right help so lebron found it on his own.. You can't fault the guy for that

I never said he needed to do it alone, but you could at least call the man and let him know you are leaving. You do that at any job you leave if you have an decency at all. And you dont have an hour long special stroking you ego

 

[duncansooner]

You lost me when you said "Mark Rodgers and Jim Traber."

 

[Edmond_Sooner]

Well, you cant be considered the best in the world if you havent won a championship...

So does this question really matter?

 

[Dem Coltz]

I've loved the past 2-3 weeks of free agency/the "decision" for this reason: it reminded me why I got the impression he was always only a self-serving super-athletic brat who didn't care about bball, only about attention. That is clearly all he is and all he's ever been. All the articles that never got printed before because Lebron was a prized commodity and ESPN or Yahoo or Brian Windhorst of Cleveland didn't want to lose interviews, now were fair game because the way he acted was so ridiculous. All the stories that were only whispers on the internet before, now came out in major articles by good writers because Lebron was no longer the golden goose who fans wanted to love and root for. Now fans wanted to dislike him because of his inhuman actions (he was acting like a robot/corporation), and it turns out there was plenty about Lebron we never knew, and the only reason we could possibly like him was not knowing about those stories.

And if he didn't "owe" Cleveland anything, then I guess people don't "owe" their friends/teammates or coaches/bosses any respect to let them know you are leaving. And oh by the way you don't tell your teammates and boss what you're doing because you want to build up "drama" for your TV show. Drama is more important to Lebron than respect, and that's where I draw a line for my fanhood.

Besides Lebron either quit or had a mental breakdown in games 5 and 6 against Boston. It's one or the other. In all this mess I lost respect for Wilbon too for not having the balls to ask a real question. I saw game 5 and 6, and he looked like he didn't even care. Someone explain that. And after his game 3 monster don't even think about mentioning the elbow. It now seems that left-handed free throw was more sportscenter time and an act to stay in the discussion on talk shows.

 

[Edmond_Sooner]

I've loved the past 2-3 weeks of free agency/the "decision" for this reason: it reminded me why I got the impression he was always only a self-serving super-athletic brat who didn't care about bball, only about attention. That is clearly all he is and all he's ever been. All the articles that never got printed before because Lebron was a prized commodity and ESPN or Yahoo or Brian Windhorst of Cleveland didn't want to lose interviews, now were fair game because the way he acted was so ridiculous. All the stories that were only whispers on the internet before, now came out in major articles by good writers because Lebron was no longer the golden goose who fans wanted to love and root for. Now fans wanted to dislike him because of his inhuman actions (he was acting like a robot/corporation), and it turns out there was plenty about Lebron we never knew, and the only reason we could possibly like him was not knowing about those stories.

And if he didn't "owe" Cleveland anything, then I guess people don't "owe" their friends/teammates or coaches/bosses any respect to let them know you are leaving. And oh by the way you don't tell your teammates and boss what you're doing because you want to build up "drama" for your TV show. Drama is more important to Lebron than respect, and that's where I draw a line for my fanhood.

Besides Lebron either quit or had a mental breakdown in games 5 and 6 against Boston. It's one or the other. In all this mess I lost respect for Wilbon too for not having the balls to ask a real question. I saw game 5 and 6, and he looked like he didn't even care. Someone explain that. And after his game 3 monster don't even think about mentioning the elbow. It now seems that left-handed free throw was more sportscenter time and an act to stay in the discussion on talk shows.

:clap

 

[luckyc1423]

Oh wow I didn't know he didn't tell anyone because he was building up drama for a tv show... I haven't read that... If that's the case then I agree with you

Oh and by the way if Cleveland were true friends they would not burn his jersey

This is a business and he made a business decision

 

[thebigabd]

Would you rather be Charles Barkely or Mark Madsen? Karl Malone or Brian Scalibrine?

Game. Set. Match.

 

[Max Power]

Game. Set. Match.

That's fine, but he is not King James anymore. He is not the man in Miami, D-Wade is, LeBron is now Scottie, and Pau, The Sidekick.

 

[earlpearl]

I've loved the past 2-3 weeks of free agency/the "decision" for this reason: it reminded me why I got the impression he was always only a self-serving super-athletic brat who didn't care about bball, only about attention. That is clearly all he is and all he's ever been. All the articles that never got printed before because Lebron was a prized commodity and ESPN or Yahoo or Brian Windhorst of Cleveland didn't want to lose interviews, now were fair game because the way he acted was so ridiculous. All the stories that were only whispers on the internet before, now came out in major articles by good writers because Lebron was no longer the golden goose who fans wanted to love and root for. Now fans wanted to dislike him because of his inhuman actions (he was acting like a robot/corporation), and it turns out there was plenty about Lebron we never knew, and the only reason we could possibly like him was not knowing about those stories.

And if he didn't "owe" Cleveland anything, then I guess people don't "owe" their friends/teammates or coaches/bosses any respect to let them know you are leaving. And oh by the way you don't tell your teammates and boss what you're doing because you want to build up "drama" for your TV show. Drama is more important to Lebron than respect, and that's where I draw a line for my fanhood.

Besides Lebron either quit or had a mental breakdown in games 5 and 6 against Boston. It's one or the other. In all this mess I lost respect for Wilbon too for not having the balls to ask a real question. I saw game 5 and 6, and he looked like he didn't even care. Someone explain that. And after his game 3 monster don't even think about mentioning the elbow. It now seems that left-handed free throw was more sportscenter time and an act to stay in the discussion on talk shows.

I agree that James handled the situation badly, but Cleveland did not exactly handle the James era that well either. When you have a super stud player like James Or Jordan then as an organization you have to find great players to go with him in order to win the whole thing. The bulls did it with Jordan. If Cleveland would have commited to winning a championship as an organization then James might have stayed.