Can you guys explain some Trump things to me?

[thebigabd]

I’ve gone off the deep end? LOL. You support a rapist and a professional liar who is in the early stages of dementia. You whine about Andrew Jackson when Bill Clinton is the worst person with the character of a serial rapist, but you support him.

Democrats only invoke the “character matters” argument when it suits them. You don’t give a crap about character when a democrat is in office. You only care about character when propping up an argument against a republican.

Biden and the dems support domestic terrorism and they would gladly burn it all down just to win an election. They only care about their own power and wealth. Real Americans are the people that do most of the Real work in this country. They are black, white, red, yellow, and brown. The political establishment likes to foment division and fear to maintain their grip on the power.

You blindly support the party of mayhem instead of law and order. When have the dems ever helped the Black community? The answer is NEVER. They throw money and a little power to a few black men in order to win the vote. That’s it. They have lied to and manipulated the black community for 75+ years.

You would vote for Biden, a rapist, a liar, and a criminal. Yet your conscience is clear? LOL

wowzers.

 

[steverocks35]

I’ve gone off the deep end? LOL. You support a rapist and a professional liar who is in the early stages of dementia. You whine about Andrew Jackson when Bill Clinton is the worst person with the character of a serial rapist, but you support him.

Democrats only invoke the “character matters” argument when it suits them. You don’t give a crap about character when a democrat is in office. You only care about character when propping up an argument against a republican.

Biden and the dems support domestic terrorism and they would gladly burn it all down just to win an election. They only care about their own power and wealth. Real Americans are the people that do most of the Real work in this country. They are black, white, red, yellow, and brown. The political establishment likes to foment division and fear to maintain their grip on the power.

You blindly support the party of mayhem instead of law and order. When have the dems ever helped the Black community? The answer is NEVER. They throw money and a little power to a few black men in order to win the vote. That’s it. They have lied to and manipulated the black community for 75+ years.

You would vote for Biden, a rapist, a liar, and a criminal. Yet your conscience is clear? LOL

Wow, is this for real? Are you trolling us? Is this parody? Yikes.
Well just in case this is real and not some weird performance art, let me unpack this unhinged screed a little.

1. You call Joe Biden a rapist. That's not true. His accuser's story which has changed multiple times has been completely discredited. She has a long history of conning people and lying. She actually needs professional help. Donald Trump on the other hand has been accused credibly by 20+ women of rape and sexual assault. Ivana Trump accused him of repeatedly raping her. He's admitted to grabbing women by their sex organs and kissing them without their consent. He's admitted to going backstage at the Miss Teen Universe pageant to see the girls undressed.

If you're worried about how women are treated why would you ever support Donald Trump?

2. You call Joe Biden a liar. Of course every politician, especially one who has served for decades, has stretched the truth. But Joe Biden is not a liar. In fact, he tells the truth to a fault and it gets him in trouble. Donald Trump on the other hand lies like most people breathe. His latest pathetic lie was that he only went to the White House bunker to "inspect" it. The pathetic child went to the bunker during the protests because he was afraid, but he lied about it because he can't handle criticism. He said he was there for a "very very short time" and only to "inspect" it, which doesn't make sense because if you were inspecting something you would not be there for a short period of time. This is just one of thousands of lies that have come out of this sad narcissist's mouth.

If you're worried about lying why would you ever support Donald Trump.

3. You say that Joe Biden is in the early stages of dementia. There is no evidence for this. He has a well-documented history as a stutterer. This makes some of his speaking patterns seem off and disjointed but he still has all his mental faculties. Donald Trump on the other hand is a complete imbecile. What kind of moron thinks you can inject detergent or swallow UV lights to fight a virus? Donald Trump. He's a barely-literate stooge whose briefers have to use lots of pictures and mentions of his name to keep him focused on being briefed.

If you're worried about decreased mental capacity why would you ever support Donald Trump?

You say Democrats support "domestic terrorism." What are you talking about? The Constitution supports the right to protest. Of course nobody supports violence, but the right to protest is as old as this country and it's ridiculous to call it "domestic terrorism."

You say there is a group of "Real Americans." What are you talking about? Were the "Real Americans" Donald Trump voters? There must be lots of fake Americans then because Trump got 3 million fewer votes than Hillary.

it's fits pretty closely to how I feel, that a large majority of the black people living in poverty have no real desire to get out of that situation, b/c of how easy the democratic party has made it for them to continue living that situation

So you're saying that black people in poverty have it way too easy and they're just lazy and want to live that way? Sheesh man, do you know how racist that is? Yikes.

 

[thebigabd]

Wow, is this for real? Are you trolling us? Is this parody? Yikes.
Well just in case this is real and not some weird performance art, let me unpack this unhinged screed a little.

1. You call Joe Biden a rapist. That's not true. His accuser's story which has changed multiple times has been completely discredited. She has a long history of conning people and lying. She actually needs professional help. Donald Trump on the other hand has been accused credibly by 20+ women of rape and sexual assault. Ivana Trump accused him of repeatedly raping her. He's admitted to grabbing women by their sex organs and kissing them without their consent. He's admitted to going backstage at the Miss Teen Universe pageant to see the girls undressed.

If you're worried about how women are treated why would you ever support Donald Trump?

2. You call Joe Biden a liar. Of course every politician, especially one who has served for decades, has stretched the truth. But Joe Biden is not a liar. In fact, he tells the truth to a fault and it gets him in trouble. Donald Trump on the other hand lies like most people breathe. His latest pathetic lie was that he only went to the White House bunker to "inspect" it. The pathetic child went to the bunker during the protests because he was afraid, but he lied about it because he can't handle criticism. He said he was there for a "very very short time" and only to "inspect" it, which doesn't make sense because if you were inspecting something you would not be there for a short period of time. This is just one of thousands of lies that have come out of this sad narcissist's mouth.

If you're worried about lying why would you ever support Donald Trump.

3. You say that Joe Biden is in the early stages of dementia. There is no evidence for this. He has a well-documented history as a stutterer. This makes some of his speaking patterns seem off and disjointed but he still has all his mental faculties. Donald Trump on the other hand is a complete imbecile. What kind of moron thinks you can inject detergent or swallow UV lights to fight a virus? Donald Trump. He's a barely-literate stooge whose briefers have to use lots of pictures and mentions of his name to keep him focused on being briefed.

If you're worried about decreased mental capacity why would you ever support Donald Trump?

You say Democrats support "domestic terrorism." What are you talking about? The Constitution supports the right to protest. Of course nobody supports violence, but the right to protest is as old as this country and it's ridiculous to call it "domestic terrorism."

You say there is a group of "Real Americans." What are you talking about? Were the "Real Americans" Donald Trump voters? There must be lots of fake Americans then because Trump got 3 million fewer votes than Hillary.



So you're saying that black people in poverty have it way too easy and they're just lazy and want to live that way? Sheesh man, do you know how racist that is? Yikes.

Thank you Steve, good post.

You know, the point of this thread was to learn some things about people who support Trump... For better or worse, I legitimately have a better understanding of the mindset that is out there. It kind of surprises me what I have discovered here, but it's important for me to know nonetheless.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

Donald Trump has some significant personal flaws. As has been repeated throughout this thread. But, I can tell you why Evangelicals, Orthodox and Roman Catholics support him. First, these above groups have been called out and smeared....even by their own co-religionists. But, IMO, it comes down to three things:

• his support for life (pro-life from conception)
• religious freedom (his supreme court and other appointees....and the courts' role in protecting religious freedom)
• his support for Israel.

They believe he has advanced the common good and the left would have countered fervently on each of those issues specific to Christianity.

Also, since I'm an originalist (constitution), I believe that a portion of people who don't like Trump (even some Republicans) come at it from an aesthetic point view, not a constitutional point of view. If the "never Trumpers" in his own party would look at not only his results, but also recognize that he did it with massive pushback from dems and an overwhelming media complex against him, then they might could at least swallow their pride momentarily and recognize his accomplishments.

I will admit even I a took a flyer on him....but have been pleasantly surprised with the results of his governance (yet not necessarily the tweets, bs, etc.).

And BTW, Bush not voting for Trump is a completely false story (by the NYT...no surprise) per President's Bush' former spokesman (Freddy Ford).
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/501702-report-that-bush-wont-support-trump-reelection-completely-made-up-spokesman

Another notch in the belt of journalism being pretty much dead. Journalists are activists now. Don't trust big media.

I'll add that he is the most pro life president in history but he still makes too many exceptions for abortions. But beggars can't be choosers

Speaking of journalism, did you see the new story where China has paid millions and millions of dollars a year to post pro china propaganda in US newspapers? utterly ridiculous

 

[SoonerBounce13]

Wow, is this for real? Are you trolling us? Is this parody? Yikes.
Well just in case this is real and not some weird performance art, let me unpack this unhinged screed a little.

1. You call Joe Biden a rapist. That's not true. His accuser's story which has changed multiple times has been completely discredited. She has a long history of conning people and lying. She actually needs professional help. Donald Trump on the other hand has been accused credibly by 20+ women of rape and sexual assault. Ivana Trump accused him of repeatedly raping her. He's admitted to grabbing women by their sex organs and kissing them without their consent. He's admitted to going backstage at the Miss Teen Universe pageant to see the girls undressed.

If you're worried about how women are treated why would you ever support Donald Trump?

2. You call Joe Biden a liar. Of course every politician, especially one who has served for decades, has stretched the truth. But Joe Biden is not a liar. In fact, he tells the truth to a fault and it gets him in trouble. Donald Trump on the other hand lies like most people breathe. His latest pathetic lie was that he only went to the White House bunker to "inspect" it. The pathetic child went to the bunker during the protests because he was afraid, but he lied about it because he can't handle criticism. He said he was there for a "very very short time" and only to "inspect" it, which doesn't make sense because if you were inspecting something you would not be there for a short period of time. This is just one of thousands of lies that have come out of this sad narcissist's mouth.

If you're worried about lying why would you ever support Donald Trump.

3. You say that Joe Biden is in the early stages of dementia. There is no evidence for this. He has a well-documented history as a stutterer. This makes some of his speaking patterns seem off and disjointed but he still has all his mental faculties. Donald Trump on the other hand is a complete imbecile. What kind of moron thinks you can inject detergent or swallow UV lights to fight a virus? Donald Trump. He's a barely-literate stooge whose briefers have to use lots of pictures and mentions of his name to keep him focused on being briefed.

If you're worried about decreased mental capacity why would you ever support Donald Trump?

You say Democrats support "domestic terrorism." What are you talking about? The Constitution supports the right to protest. Of course nobody supports violence, but the right to protest is as old as this country and it's ridiculous to call it "domestic terrorism."

You say there is a group of "Real Americans." What are you talking about? Were the "Real Americans" Donald Trump voters? There must be lots of fake Americans then because Trump got 3 million fewer votes than Hillary.



So you're saying that black people in poverty have it way too easy and they're just lazy and want to live that way? Sheesh man, do you know how racist that is? Yikes.

i just want to say that I love the hypocracy the left has when it is one of their own that is accused of sexual misconduct. It is outstanding b/c it really shows their true colors

 

[steverocks35]

i just want to say that I love the hypocracy the left has when it is one of their own that is accused of sexual misconduct. It is outstanding b/c it really shows their true colors

What hypocrisy? Biden's accuser's story was false and discredited by multiple people. Even if you don't believe any of the women that have accused Trump of sexual assault, you have him openly admitting to it, on a recording, we've all heard it.

He also admitted, on tape, that he enjoyed going backstage at the Miss Teen Universe Pageant to see the girls undressed. It's pretty sickening.

 

[steverocks35]

In case you think I'm lying about his sickening behavior

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/a-timeline-of-donald-trumps-creepiness-while-he-owned-miss-universe-191860/

 

[SoonerBounce13]

What hypocrisy? Biden's accuser's story was false and discredited by multiple people. Even if you don't believe any of the women that have accused Trump of sexual assault, you have him openly admitting to it, on a recording, we've all heard it.

He also admitted, on tape, that he enjoyed going backstage at the Miss Teen Universe Pageant to see the girls undressed. It's pretty sickening.

Have you forgotten about the whole Kavanaugh hearings lol?

I'm not saying that Biden's accuser is telling the truth or lying, i don't know and I haven't looked into it much. But there seemed to be a lot more evidence against Biden then there was against Kavanaugh

 

[SoonerBounce13]

In case you think I'm lying about his sickening behavior

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/a-timeline-of-donald-trumps-creepiness-while-he-owned-miss-universe-191860/

we all know he is creepy

Has rolling stone done a similar story on Clinton?

 

[steverocks35]

Have you forgotten about the whole Kavanaugh hearings lol?

I'm not saying that Biden's accuser is telling the truth or lying, i don't know and I haven't looked into it much. But there seemed to be a lot more evidence against Biden then there was against Kavanaugh

That's not true at all. There is not a "lot more evidence." And the two cases are not similar in the least.

 

[steverocks35]

we all know he is creepy

Has rolling stone done a similar story on Clinton?

Bill Clinton is not on the ballot in 2020. Who cares if they did a similar story on Clinton?

 

[WTSooner]

So you're saying that black people in poverty have it way too easy and they're just lazy and want to live that way? Sheesh man, do you know how racist that is? Yikes.

Considering a number of black folks, celebrities, have said the same thing, I'm comfortable in what I stated. Go listen to what Morgan Freeman has to say. A man that grew up when out-right racism was definitely a major problem.

https://www.facebook.com/mrctv/videos/292591268796378/

Edit: I'm pretty sure Morgan Freeman is a democrat as well, so this isn't some republican following the GOP talking points. Same for several in that video.

 

[WTSooner]

Bill Clinton is not on the ballot in 2020. Who cares if they did a similar story on Clinton?

Because we're not just talking about the current politics of it, but how dems turn their heads when it's one of their own.

That should be a pretty easy concept to understand.

 

[steverocks35]

Considering a number of black folks, celebrities, have said the same thing, I'm comfortable in what I stated. Go listen to what Morgan Freeman has to say. A man that grew up when out-right racism was definitely a major problem.

https://www.facebook.com/mrctv/videos/292591268796378/

Edit: I'm pretty sure Morgan Freeman is a democrat as well, so this isn't some republican following the GOP talking points. Same for several in that video.

Some black people said it so you’re comfortable saying that black people have it way too easy and are too lazy to improve their situation? Wow man, just wow

 

[steverocks35]

Because we're not just talking about the current politics of it, but how dems turn their heads when it's one of their own.

That should be a pretty easy concept to understand.

I’m comparing the two people running for President. That should be a pretty easy concept to understand.

 

[WTSooner]

Some black people said it so you’re comfortable saying that black people have it way too easy and are too lazy to improve their situation? Wow man, just wow

Those are your words. Surely you can see the difference between:

Me - "b/c of how easy the democratic party has made it for them to continue living that way."

You - "so you’re comfortable saying that black people have it way too easy and are too lazy to improve their situation?"

lol, it's even more comical when I line them up like that. Don't be a clown. The discussions around here were definitely of a higher level when you were gone. Sheesh.

 

[steverocks35]

Those are your words. Surely you can see the difference between:

Me - "b/c of how easy the democratic party has made it for them to continue living that way."

You - "so you’re comfortable saying that black people have it way too easy and are too lazy to improve their situation?"

lol, it's even more comical when I line them up like that. Don't be a clown. The discussions around here were definitely of a higher level when you were gone. Sheesh.

You're saying that Democrats have made it "too easy" for African-Americans to live in poverty so they won't improve their way of life. That's insanely racist.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

That's not true at all. There is not a "lot more evidence." And the two cases are not similar in the least.

They definitely have similarities.
There wasn't one ounce of evidence against Kavanaugh. Not one. Except that he was at a party on an unknown date.

There is evidence in Biden's case. Again, i haven't looked into it much but the alleged victim at least filed witht he police I believe after it allegedly happened.

If you can't see the hypocracy in teh way these two cases were handled, there really isn't a need to have anymore discussion on it

 

[steverocks35]

They definitely have similarities.
There wasn't one ounce of evidence against Kavanaugh. Not one. Except that he was at a party on an unknown date.

There is evidence in Biden's case. Again, i haven't looked into it much but the alleged victim at least filed witht he police I believe after it allegedly happened.

If you can't see the hypocracy in teh way these two cases were handled, there really isn't a need to have anymore discussion on it

There is zero hypocrisy, she filed a police report THIS YEAR and the police immediately dismissed it. Her accusations against Biden were completely discredited and disproven.

Christine Blasey-Ford's accusations against Kavanaugh were not proven but they also weren't discredited. She also does not have a history as a grifter and a liar. Also, Bret Kavanaugh was confirmed and is now sitting on the Supreme Court. So you should be able to see that there is really no comparison to be made here.

 

[BCSooners]

i just want to say that I love the hypocracy the left has when it is one of their own that is accused of sexual misconduct. It is outstanding b/c it really shows their true colors

One was proven innocent, the other admitted it on tape. A bit of difference there.