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I disagree a bit with your premise. How many successful HC's have the blue-bloods pulled directly from a school like OU in the last few decades? That typically isn't how they find/hire their coaches.

Look back at our history of coaches and tell me how many made it past 15 years. Sampson might have had he not been plucked by Indiana/recruiting violations. If they have 10-15 years of coaching left in them, it's highly improbable that age will be the limiting factor of their tenure.
 
Look back at our history of coaches and tell me how many made it past 15 years. Sampson might have had he not been plucked by Indiana/recruiting violations. If they have 10-15 years of coaching left in them, it's highly improbable that age will be the limiting factor of their tenure.

You are focusing on a part of this age thing that I never brought up. Your point has nothing to do with why I'd prefer somebody younger.

I'll put it another way. Moser has been a HC for 17 seasons. I have a pretty good idea in what we'd get with him. And outside of two very good runs recently in the Dance, I think that ceiling is pretty close to my floor for what I want out of OU basketball.

I'm not high on McCasland either, but I could argue that at 7 years of experience, his best might still be in front of him. He might still be learning and growing as a coach.

Moser has been coaching basketball for 31 years, basically since the day he graduated from Creighton. He is who he is at this point, and I don't see that as a transcending coach at OU.

Take an assistant coach, especially a younger one, and we really don't know what their upside is. That is both a positive and a negative, but I'd like us to aim a little higher than guys like Moser and McCasland. Moser is riding the high of 2 good tournament showings. And yet, while fans of basketball have been signing his praises for a couple of years, he really hasn't gotten much interest in the coaching the community. ALL those basketball schools up in that part of the country, good teams, none went calling (that we know of).

I just think he is underwhelming. Great defense, which I like, but our offense would take a step back. That formula works at small schools. It works in a limited number of games in a setting like the NCAA tournament. But it doesn't work over the long-haul in a conference like the Big 12.
 
I'll put it another way. Moser has been a HC for 17 seasons. I have a pretty good idea in what we'd get with him. And outside of two very good runs recently in the Dance, I think that ceiling is pretty close to my floor for what I want out of OU basketball.

This is under the assumption that coaches cannot improve over the course of their career, which I strongly disagree with. His teams appear well-coached, and he has won his conference 3 of the last 4 years at a program that hadn't won one since the '80s.

I'm not saying he's Brad Stevens, but you'd be hard-pressed to find five realistic candidates comparable or better than him.
 
I'm not saying he's Brad Stevens, but you'd be hard-pressed to find five realistic candidates comparable or better than him.

But I will say that the list of candidates this year has seemed a bit on the underwhelming side.
 
But I will say that the list of candidates this year has seemed a bit on the underwhelming side.

But the list isn't Joe C's. It's just fans and media throwing crap at the wall, none of whom (me included) really has any idea what's actually going on.
 
But the list isn't Joe C's. It's just fans and media throwing crap at the wall, none of whom (me included) really has any idea what's actually going on.

Was Lon even on the radar until just a few hours before the press conference?
 
it would be fun to go back 10 years ago and see all the names that were being thrown out there by fans and media....

I think that can be done here if anybody wants to utilize the search button.
 
I think that can be done here if anybody wants to utilize the search button.

went back did not look through the threads just the titles, lots of Billy Gillespie, Buzz Williams, and Terry Evans talk
 
Was Lon even on the radar until just a few hours before the press conference?

Yes. People didn’t believe it. Yes he told Joe no twice before accepting but they weren’t definite. Joe’s most important aspect in that search was for a guy to run a clean program. There were very few options. At that time he wouldn’t consider Altman because he had accepted Arkansas and backed out after the press conference. Of course that was because all the players came to him saying they still needed their previous deals.
The clean program was huge because the previous two coaches were busted by the NCAA. Also football had the minor issue with Bomar. Joe couldn’t have another basketball probation.

Altman will not be a candidate for the opening this time. This is to my disappointment!
 
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