Football question

[WTSooner]

I don’t think we’ll ever really know how much the thumb bothered him versus Texas. But it wouldn’t shock me if he was cleared prematurely and/or aggravated it during the game.

I think he was throwing at around 80% or so during the Texas game, but the not practicing for three weeks got him. He wasn’t mentally prepared for the big stage and made some serious mental errors which snowballed on him. And now I think the staff is screaming into his ear “Don’t turn the ball over,” which has also affected his play some too.

There you got. That is the thought path it takes to get to Mateer being much better than he's been. He needs a mental reset, and he probably won't get that until the offseason, though I would expect him to look better in a playoff game simply by having 3 weeks to help "reset".

He was much lower than 80%. Much lower.

 

[Eielson]

As I said, I wasn’t referring to the team. Was referring to whiny fans making excuses. And you didn’t give an answer. You stated your opinion but have yet to explain how a thumb ouchie affects vision and decision making.

It's been explained and data has been provided to support it. But you avoid data like the plague and prefer to lean on the eye test you developed in peewee that said we'd win 6 or 7 games, don't have an elite defense, and our offense hasn't improved.

 

[Boom Soon]

It's been explained and data has been provided to support it. But you avoid data like the plague and prefer to lean on the eye test you developed in peewee that said we'd win 6 or 7 games, don't have an elite defense, and our offense hasn't improved.

Correlation doesn’t mean causation. Just remember that. Just because he hurt his thumb doesn’t mean his awful performance against Texas is because of the thumb. He could be lying but even Mateer said it wasn’t the thumb and continues that narrative. I don’t particularly think he’s a deceitful guy but nature so I’m inclined to take him at his word.

 

[Boom Soon]

So you think Mateer should have just taken an extra month off until it healed more completely while our playoff hopes evaporated with Hawkins under center? That's the true loser mentality right there.

Hindsight is obviously 20/20 but he was rushed back when he probably shouldn’t have. He definitely could have taken Texas and SC off to get closer to 100%.

I don’t think he made any throw Hawkins couldn’t have during the SC game. It was a very vanilla game plan and the run game really did well during that game too.

 

[BCSooners]

As I said, I wasn’t referring to the team. Was referring to whiny fans making excuses. And you didn’t give an answer. You stated your opinion but have yet to explain how a thumb ouchie affects vision and decision making.

It affects you confidence, not trusting your own instincts, higher levels of stress & anxiety. That’s coming from a sports psychologist.

Mateer came in being likened to Baker with his cockiness & leadership. Look at Baker when he was playing through an injury at Cleveland, it completely changed his personality.

Everyone said the Missouri QB’s ankle looked great, but he was a shell of himself.

You keep saying he has an “ouchie” and “if it’s hurt”, man do you not get how injuries kill your performance in sports even though it could be fine in everyday life?

 

[Eielson]

Correlation doesn’t mean causation. Just remember that. Just because he hurt his thumb doesn’t mean his awful performance against Texas is because of the thumb. He could be lying but even Mateer said it wasn’t the thumb and continues that narrative. I don’t particularly think he’s a deceitful guy but nature so I’m inclined to take him at his word.

Sure, but using the Bayesian method, anybody with common sense would have predicted his level of play would dip after rushing back before trending back up to his previous levels. And then it did exactly that, so we can be pretty confident. We can't ever 100% prove anything. Hell, we might be just living in a virtual dreamworld and not actually exist.

There's a clear reason why his turnovers quadrupled compared to his average and his QBR was cut in half, which hasn't continued. It's disingenuous at best to pretend his surgically repaired hand, which we saw actively bleeding on the sideline, didn't affect him at all.

 

[Boom Soon]

Take care of business today!! Boomer!!

 

[Eielson]

We have never beaten LSU in football, often losing in painful fashion. Time to get our first!

 

[Eielson]

2004 - the worst loss. With a win here or against Florida, Bob goes down as one of the GOATs.

2019 - the end of hope for the Riley era. In his first year, he lost a close one to the SEC with Bob's team. Next year we got manhandled early and often by Bama, but made the final score look respectable. In 2019, the writing was on the wall -- we had an SEC problem. If we wanted to compete, we had to move on, and thankfully he pulled the trigger for us.

2024 - fresh off a Bama masterpiece, we finally had hope for the program again, but LSU quickly deflated it.

A 2025 loss would sure be up there. This program has devastated us for too long, spanning 3 different coaches.

 

[NickZepp]

2004 - the worst loss. With a win here or against Florida, Bob goes down as one of the GOATs.

2019 - the end of hope for the Riley era. In his first year, he lost a close one to the SEC with Bob's team. Next year we got manhandled early and often by Bama, but made the final score look respectable. In 2019, the writing was on the wall -- we had an SEC problem. If we wanted to compete, we had to move on, and thankfully he pulled the trigger for us.

2024 - fresh off a Bama masterpiece, we finally had hope for the program again, but LSU quickly deflated it.

A 2025 loss would sure be up there. This program has devastated us for too long, spanning 3 different coaches.

1950 Sugar Bowl.

 

[Eielson]

1950 Sugar Bowl.

Missed that one. Thanks!

Would be the first of my lifetime. I think we might have a couple here that were alive for that, but likely not old enough to have any recollection.

 

[Sooner04]

We have never beaten LSU in football, often losing in painful fashion. Time to get our first!

Bud's first great team beat the brakes off the Bayou Bengals in the Sugar Bowl following the 1949 season, 35-0. Leon "Mule Train" Heath ran all over LSU and Darrell Royal also found paydirt for the Sooners. Both of those dudes were from Hollis, OK!

 

[daqman]

going to be crazy windy today.....can't rely on fg kicking.
offense is going to have to generate some touchdowns.

 

[hoopsaustin]

This is a legacy game for venables. Is he a joke as a HC or can he win the big game? This is his first we have to have it. Well find out.

Mateer and Ben uberbuckle have to actually show up. Run the ball 20+ times eith XRob. Dumb it down for mateer. Do some easy stuff over the middle to get him going.

Let's beat these douchers. WKU almost did...

 

[SoonerMagic]

This is a legacy game for venables. Is he a joke as a HC or can he win the big game? This is his first we have to have it. Well find out.

Mateer and Ben uberbuckle have to actually show up. Run the ball 20+ times eith XRob. Dumb it down for mateer. Do some easy stuff over the middle to get him going.

Let's beat these douchers. WKU almost did...

Last 3 games were must win/big games. I do agree he needs to win this to get us over the hump. This will affect transfer portal and hs recruiting .

 

[NickZepp]

This year OU's shown they are going on the right path. Next year should be a top 5 team in the country.

 

[Eielson]

This is a legacy game for venables. Is he a joke as a HC or can he win the big game? This is his first we have to have it. Well find out.

Mateer and Ben uberbuckle have to actually show up. Run the ball 20+ times eith XRob. Dumb it down for mateer. Do some easy stuff over the middle to get him going.

Let's beat these douchers. WKU almost did...

I really hope we don't have to use X much. I love our chances in round 1 of CFP if he's full strength.

It's a pipedream, but nothing would excite me more than 6 carries for 35 yards from a guy like Tatum on the opening TD drive.

 

[WichitaSooner]

OSU putting on a clinic. They have the best WR duo in the country, but they are taking the play clock down every snap and running the ball almost every play to make sure Michigan has no chance to come back. Someone show the video of this to our staff, stat.

 

[Sooner04]

This is such a big game. All of our goals are right there for the taking with a win today. So many foundational boxes are checked for us if we handle our business this afternoon. I've got the butterflies......what a wonderful feeling!
Boomer Sooner!

 

[hoopsaustin]

Run the dang ball, uber. Work in some HB screens too