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Thats a very good point, Max. I'd still say that in that time frame, UT has been a slightly more consistent program than OU or OSU, but its very close. Once again, thats just my opinion.
If I was being completely unbiased, I'd say that in the last 25 years I'd rank it as..
1. KU (duh, nothing groundbreaking here)
2. UT
3a. OU/OSU - Overall, I'd say that we are the better program based on series record, but in the last 25 years, it looks like a tie. They have had less losing seasons, and more Final 4's, but we hold the series record in that time by 3 wins. Its close, and to be honest, both are great programs and both are top 20 historically, IMO. I don't see how anyone could argue either being obviously better (last 25 years), they are both very solid programs - and I like it that way.
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You sound like my boss. "That's a nice piece of work, but what about this as well?"
IOWA STATE:
Overall record: 470-321 (.594 winning percentage)
Conference championships: 2 ('00, '01)
Conference tournament championships: 3 ('96, '00, '14)
Big 8 record: 38-46 (.452 winning percentage)
Big 12 record: 141-163 (.464 winning percentage)
NCAA appearances: 11
NCAA record: 13-11 (.542 winning percentage)
Sweet 16s: 2 ('97, '14)
Elite 8s: 1 ('00)
Final 4s: 0
First Round Exits: 2
Losing campaigns: 7 ('91, '98, '02, '07, '08, '09, '10)
Losing conference campaigns: 15 (that's too many to list individually!)
In tabulating this research, I've really come to appreciate just how solid Texas, OU and OSU have been for the last 25 years. It's been a remarkable record of consistency.
In closing, a team of clydesdales with a rope tied to my nuts could not drag me back to the computer to compile these same stats as they apply to the chickenhawks. So go ask somebody else!!
Ha! I didn't mean you HAD to do it!
That's a bit surprising. I they were more consistent than that.
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04, if you pretend West Virginia was in the Big 12 for the past 25 years instead of whatever out east... you don't have to but if you want to... 
Also, I think second-best-in-Big-12 OSU must sign Travis Ford to another 10-year contract. Make it happen, Dougie!
Also, I think second-best-in-Big-12 OSU must sign Travis Ford to another 10-year contract. Make it happen, Dougie!
Ha! I didn't mean you HAD to do it!
That's a bit surprising. I they were more consistent than that.
Combination of recency bias (they've been good of late), the salience of their Marcus Fizer team that alcohol and the queso at The Vista somehow etched in your mind, and Hawkeye bias (they've beaten Iowa more often than not over than period).
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Thanks Capel....
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If we had followed Sampson with someone of Kruger's caliber instead of Capel, there would absolutely be no debate on this matter.
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Was there an incident at The Vista with Marcus Fizer? I don't remember the '90s very well, but I'd think I'd remember that!
What I forgot is that if you go back 25 years, you're to the end of the Johnny Orr era, and they were pretty weak in the 90's as a whole. It wasn't until they got it fired up in the late 90s that they were good, and then the bad hire after Coach Fratparty got fired screwed it up for longer than Capel screwed us up.
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If OSU had hired Napoleon Dynamite instead of Travis Ford it might have been a lot closer.
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25 years is a fairly convenient time frame but I do understand why Doug chose it. I would be more interested to see an OU/OSU/Texas comparison since the start of the Big 12.
2010-2012 stats aren't pretty for the Sooners:facepalm
2010-2012 stats aren't pretty for the Sooners:facepalm
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osu fans would still debate it b/c even during sampson's run they thought they were better
This is 100% true. BUT, they can make the same argument with Ford. He is their Capel, he just hasn't screwed up enough to be fired, yet. Lets just be happy that we didn't have to endure Capel nearly as long as they are stuck with Ford.
Pretty sure we were at the Vista watching the Big 12 Championship Game between ISU and OU. Not sure if it was that trip or another, but somehow I ended up with a "Please Wait to be Seated Sign" in my apartment. Neither of us were involved.
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Wasn't Sean Sutton their Capel?
Wow, I momentarily forgot about Sean. Good call.
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Awesome job there.
And it kind of backs up the point I was making earlier that a case can be made that OSU is the 2nd best in this time frame.
Texas does look good, but looking at their results in the SWC in the early/mid 1990s next to OSU/OU in the Big 8 is not even a remotely fair comparison.
The Big 8 was consistently either the first- or second-best conference in the country back then. Outside of Colorado, the Big 8 was a meat-grinder. Everybody was good.
The SWC was most certainly a second-tier conference in basketball.
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More or less.
The only difference is that he didn't get two years with a transcendent talent like Capel did.
The thing about Travis Ford is that he isn't terrible. He just isn't great.
He's certainly much better than Capel.
Ford is on the verge of taking OSU to the tournament for the 5th time in 7 years.
Capel had a losing record overall during the 3 seasons he coached when Blake Griffin wasn't on the roster.
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Of course not!
No argument here. No one is worse than Crapel, IMO.
Please. Capel went 4-2 in the NCAA tournament and made an Elite 8. Sean Sutton was a drug addict complete failure. LOL @ Hillbilly Ford being better than Capel. That's effing hilarious. Ford has won a single NCAA game in his entire career. He's the worst coach in the conference and it's not even close.
It's sad to see OU fans get suckered into a debate with lil brother. It's like the wimps in the USA scared to death over those thugs in the desert 7,000 miles away. They cut off a couple heads and burn a guy and cowards flip out. They play USA cowards like a fiddle just like these silly OSU threads always have the most posts of any. 60,000 people a year in the USA die from cars/guns which is infinitely a larger risk than ISIS. That's why they call it "terror". It scares weak people.
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