I am really down with this SEC idea.

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Frankly when the Big XII was formed it did nothing for me. Pretty much a snoozer because the only changes for OU were adding A&M, Baylor & Texas Tech since we already played Texas in football and basketball.

Of course I have made it well known too that I think the Big XII is overrated.

Well can you imagine the SEC if Texas, OU, A&M & OSU were added?

The possibilities are limitless. In football you could have a 4 team playoffs to decide the conference champ where the top 2 teams from the east and west played off. Hell just call the winner "world champs".

In hoops OU would be playing Arkansas twice a year, LSU twice a year, the Mississippi schools twice a year instead of Baylor, Tech and some North nobody. It would just be off the charts.
 
I don't like it because generally undefeated teams play for national championships and it would be nearly impossible to beat:

LSU, Florida, Texas, Auburn, Alabama, Texas A&M, Arkansas, and OSU

in a single season.

At some point a schedule like that puts OU at a disadvantage.
 
Maybe a schedule like that would have kept some of the less than worthy OU teams out of the Nat'l Title game.
 
I like it for exactly the same reason Big. End this undefeated nonsense. Stop playing patsies.

In basketball if you played 14 games vs the west and 8 games vs the east that would be 22 games within the conference alone. OU played 14 non conference games this year. You could knock that number down to 8 dropping 6 of the worthless games that nobody shows up for.

In football you could play 7 vs the west, 3 vs the east and then have 2 non conference games preferably vs a Big 10 team. How about scheduling Nebraska every year?

See if you didn't have to worry about that undefeated season farce you could schedule nothing but bigtime money making fan loving non conference games and there would only be a couple of them.
 
I like it for exactly the same reason Big. End this undefeated nonsense. Stop playing patsies.

In basketball if you played 14 games vs the west and 8 games vs the east that would be 22 games within the conference alone. OU played 14 non conference games this year. You could knock that number down to 8 dropping 6 of the worthless games that nobody shows up for.

In football you could play 7 vs the west, 3 vs the east and then have 2 non conference games preferably vs a Big 10 team. How about scheduling Nebraska every year?

See if you didn't have to worry about that undefeated season farce you could schedule nothing but bigtime money making fan loving non conference games and there would only be a couple of them.

Ok, but why would OSU and A&M be interested in playing OU, Texas, Bama, LSU, Auburn, Ole Miss, Arkansas, and each other every year? They would be under .500 every season, lol.
 
Ok, but why would OSU and A&M be interested in playing OU, Texas, Bama, LSU, Auburn, Ole Miss, Arkansas, and each other every year? They would be under .500 every season, lol.

Well Then oSu and a&m should work to get better. But Since this is an OU board I will go with the notion that if oSu feels like they can't compete then they shouldn't handcuff OU to them and let us run with the big boys. Send them to Conference USA or the MWC and let them feel like they won something
 
Ok, but why would OSU and A&M be interested in playing OU, Texas, Bama, LSU, Auburn, Ole Miss, Arkansas, and each other every year? They would be under .500 every season, lol.

You seem to be trying to argue against the whole notion of joining the SEC, but in reality you're really making a pretty strong argument FOR it.
 
Also if oSu and a&m don't want too, maybe this time around FSU and The U, would want to make 15 and 16 with us and texas. That would be sweet IMO

East Would Be

Miami
Florida
Florida State
South Carolina
Georgia
Vandy
Tennesse
Kentucky

West Would Be

OU
Texas
Arkansas
LSU
Alabama
Auburn
Ole Miss
Mississippi State
 
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I think it would be get an NCAA playoff started. There's no way that UT, OU, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, etc... would sit and let only one team out of the SEC each year get a shot at the BCS championship.
 
I think it would be get an NCAA playoff started. There's no way that UT, OU, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, etc... would sit and let only one team out of the SEC each year get a shot at the BCS championship.

Which last time i checked is a good thing and what everyone not making money off the BCS want
 
You seem to be trying to argue against the whole notion of joining the SEC, but in reality you're really making a pretty strong argument FOR it.

I think there is such a thing of being TOO loaded.... If OU fans are interested in increasing their chances of playing for a national championship, this would not be a good solution.
 
I think there is such a thing of being TOO loaded.... If OU fans are interested in increasing their chances of playing for a national championship, this would not be a good solution.

Actually, big, my reply to your earlier post was the tongue-in-cheek variety. I thought it was funny that you were lamenting the fact that OSU and A&M would be under .500 every season. :)
 
I think it is more likely that the SEC would poach four from the ACC (FSU, MIAMI, GT and Clemson), than take four from the Big XII.
 
Boren: OU to stay in B12

NORMAN, Okla. -- University president David Boren expects Oklahoma to stay in the Big 12. He doesn't think any other schools are leaving the conference either.

Following a disputed report that fellow Big 12 members Nebraska and Missouri had been offered the chance to join the Big Ten, Boren told The Associated Press on Thursday that he believes "if any member decided to leave, they would regret it later on."

"We're very happy with the Big 12 Conference and we certainly expect to stay in the Big 12 Conference," Boren said. "I was sort of shocked to read speculation that OU might leave the Big 12 Conference. Certainly not.

"And I really think that the likelihood of any of the schools leaving the conference is really being blown out of proportion. I think the conference will stay intact."

Boren said Big 12 schools are contemplating ways to bridge a revenue gap that has the Big Ten and Southeastern conferences providing member schools with a higher annual payout, including starting its own leaguewide network. But he pointed out that the nation's economic picture has changed since the Big Ten launched its lucrative cable network, which allows the conference to pay its schools about $22 million per year -- millions more than Big 12 schools receive.

"Certainly I think when you look at where we've been, the revenue growth of the member schools in the Big 12 has been quite significant," Boren said. "I really think that if any member decided to leave, they would regret it later on. Financial considerations are not the only considerations."

While the Big Ten was creating its network and the SEC negotiated 15-year television deals with CBS and ESPN in recent years, the Big 12's opportunity to cash in will eventually come. The league currently has a television contract with ABC and ESPN that runs through 2016.

"Some of the other leagues haven't been at the table to finalize their negotiations yet. So, currently, there is a wider gap," athletic director Joe Castiglione said. "But once the television negotiations take place, that gap will narrow some."

The current deal, negotiated before Kevin Weiberg stepped down as commissioner in 2007, took effect in 2008. Big 12 teams have since played for two more national championships and provided the first four players taken in last month's NFL draft.

Overall, the league has had teams play for the BCS title five of the last seven years -- Oklahoma three times and Texas twice.

"We really think that we'll do well when we renegotiate those," said Boren, who gets regular briefings from Castiglione and current Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe on expansion. "And also having on the table the potential of our own network, I think our current partners will understand that they need to give us fair compensation."

While Castiglione prefers to focus on building a stronger Big 12, he acknowledged the league and individual schools must be mindful of changes that could happen and prepare to protect their interests.

"It requires the league to think about the way the landscape of college athletics could change, have some contingency plans in place -- many or all of which may not ever be used," Castiglione said. "But it would be foolish of us to not be proactive, even though we're really focusing on how we make what we have better."

Castiglione said he considers it "healthy and normal" for conferences to assess growth opportunities from time to time. The only difference this time is that the process has become more public, with "erroneous" speculation about any number of teams realigning with different conferences.

"If we happen to lose one member or two members -- and I doubt that will happen, but if it did -- there are some very strong programs that would be standing in the wings hoping to join the Big 12," Boren said.

Boren said the Big 12's revenues will only increase over time and "if any school is considering leaving, they need to look not only at the short term but they need to look at the long-term picture as well."

"I think there's a lot more smoke here than there is fire, in terms of the rumors about the Big 12," Boren said. "The demise of the Big 12 is greatly exaggerated. I expect it to stay probably completely intact, or very close to completely intact and in the worst-case scenario still a very strong conference."
 
Frankly when the Big XII was formed it did nothing for me. Pretty much a snoozer because the only changes for OU were adding A&M, Baylor & Texas Tech since we already played Texas in football and basketball.

Of course I have made it well known too that I think the Big XII is overrated.

Well can you imagine the SEC if Texas, OU, A&M & OSU were added?

The possibilities are limitless. In football you could have a 4 team playoffs to decide the conference champ where the top 2 teams from the east and west played off. Hell just call the winner "world champs".

In hoops OU would be playing Arkansas twice a year, LSU twice a year, the Mississippi schools twice a year instead of Baylor, Tech and some North nobody. It would just be off the charts.

Are you in Florida? Is that why you'd like to see this happen?
 
It would be a great conference to be in in BBall and Baseball. I don't think it would be favorable in Football.

We would probably see some dough put into the baseball facility to get it up to SEC standards.
 
OU would have to go independent for wrestling. There is no SEC in collegiate wrestling.
 
OU would have to go independent for wrestling. There is no SEC in collegiate wrestling.

They (along with any other Big 12 teams should it dissolve) would join another conference in wrestling only. The PAC 10 has a wrestling only conference set up with Arizona State, Oregon State and Stanford along with schools like Boise State, UC Davis and some other small California schools.
 
They (along with any other Big 12 teams should it dissolve) would join another conference in wrestling only. The PAC 10 has a wrestling only conference set up with Arizona State, Oregon State and Stanford along with schools like Boise State, UC Davis and some other small California schools.

But could a, mostly, non-revenue sport justify that much travel? Maybe OU, or OSU, could join the Mid-American or Southern for wrestling only.
 
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