Is everybody done defending him now?

No. My parents swatted me with sticks, did he go a little far, sure, but doenst make him a violent guy for life.
 
Bar fight...? Never heard of a good guy in a bar fight!
 
I can understand it in someone who had no father to set an example. Or maybe he did. He will learn from this.
 
Boca's parents should have Spanked his ass more when he was a child (Assuming he is an adult)
 
I dont think it justifies his actions but my legs useta look every bit as bad as that and worse. It's all PC top call that abuse now, but not too long ago that was applauded as discipline. Before we start jailing people and taking away their jobs for it we need to begin with education.
 
Anybody that beats or condones beating a 4 year old with a stick repeatedly hard enough to cut their skin open is an ignorant moron. Period. End of discussion.
 
bocabull said:
Anybody that beats or condones beating a 4 year old with a stick repeatedly hard enough to cut their skin open is an ignorant moron. Period. End of discussion.
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Probably right in that switching a 4 year old hard enough to leave whelps (10-15 licks) is probably too much. But the details I found on the incident would suggest the child might have been somewhat unruly (see attached link) and supposedly did not cry when switched which would indicate to me he might have been somewhat strong willed and stronger discipline could have been necessary. Also the child was physical other children pushing one off of a toy and scratched a second child in the face. The child's mother might be raising an unruly, spoiled and undisciplined child.

I know I got many similar bare legged switchings at a young age (6-8 as I recall) some with whelps and they were all good for me as a learned to toe the line, although I do not think they are necessary for most kids. For certain I was never brutalized. In my opinion some kids need a switching and it is the wrong solution for others. Corporal punishment is a means of last resort.

Unfortunately estranged fathers cannot make up for the lack of daily discipline at his mother's home, if that is the case, despite the tendency to do so. I know. I have one that is 48 years old and he is still a bum. Unfortunately you cannot undo in a week or two what is taught daily with the absence of discipline. In fact corporal punishment in that environment is absolutely the worst solution as it teaches nothing and gives the child the wrong perception of what it being taught. It festers only animosity.

I know I see a lot of youngsters and young adults today that a switching may have made them happier more productive citizens today. And many would not be incarcerated at the public's expense.

Boca know not of which he speaks!!! Raising children is the toughest job their it.

http://houston.cbslocal.com/2014/09/12/exclusive-details-on-adrian-peterson-indictment-charges/
 
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bocabull said:
Anybody that beats or condones beating a 4 year old with a stick repeatedly hard enough to cut their skin open is an ignorant moron. Period. End of discussion.
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If you wanted the discussion to end without giving others the chance to respond, you shouldn't have started it in the first place. And, by the way, if you insist on calling people names, it will indeed end earlier than you planned.

Now, to the topic. This is a different day than when I was growing up and disciplining a child by spanking them with a switch was all too common. It was not that different when our children were growing up. Now, it's called "child abuse."

Did AD go too far when he spanked a four year old hard enough to break the skin? Yes, he did. We never went that far in disciplining our children. Does the fact that he went too far make him a "child abuser?" Absolutely not. If that was the case, my father would have worn that label, too. I was spanked numerous times with a switch from the nearest tree, as well as a wide, leather belt, coal miners used to carry all of the equipment they needed in working in the coal mines. My dad was 6' 2" and 225 pounds of muscle. Like AD, he wasn't always aware of his own strength.

But, you know what? I came through it just fine, because my parents also made sure they sprinkled in a lot of love with the discipline I received. Some kids today could use more discipline, not less.
 
bocabull said:
Anybody that beats or condones beating a 4 year old with a stick repeatedly hard enough to cut their skin open is an ignorant moron. Period. End of discussion.
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I don't think we know all of the facts. WOuld I ever do that to my four year old? Hell no. But we don't know the situation. What if this kid just won't listen and was consistantly causing issues and being physical with other kids? What if his mother told AD to be tough on him? AD himself has been very candid about this and it makes me learn towards his side of it a little more. In particular his comment about he will use timeout now but the kid will have a memory from this and will not act out like that again. I know I have given my kids harsher punishments for this same exact reason. Its the same reason that when my 2 year old bites my 4 year old and draws blood, he gets it from mommy and then he knows he will get it from daddy when I get home from work. It puts enough fear into them to think about what they are about to do.

Anyways, I personally think he went over the limit a little bit and he probably knows that. But I don't think it deserves jail time or a season long suspension. Also, I wouldn't call this beating either. It does make it worse imo that the kid was only there for a visit and doesn't live with him. I don't think this will end well for him.

There are varying discipline philosophies out there. Boca thinks this is criminal behavior. I think it is a little overboard. There are some parents who think that a simply spanking is abuse. Let's just hope that the PC crowd doesn't make this into something that it isn't. It is definitely worthy of an investigation and hopefully they will look at all things considered to see if this is a pattern or a one time deal. HOpefully they have the kids best interest in mind

Also, why is this just coming out now? The timing of it seems odd
 
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Also Boca, what do you mean by your title? Was there a reason we shouldn't ahve been defending him before this story hit?
 
Ignorant - lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated

Hey I bet those ISIS dopes believe whipping their 4 year old kids will make them better Muslims too.
 
bocabull said:
Ignorant - lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated

Hey I bet those ISIS dopes believe whipping their 4 year old kids will make them better Muslims too.
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Just go TROLL elsewhere. Save your liberal agenda for someone who cares.
 
bocabull said:
Ignorant - lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated

Hey I bet those ISIS dopes believe whipping their 4 year old kids will make them better Muslims too.
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Don't you have a washed up nba player to be stalking?
 
CoachTalk said:
Just go TROLL elsewhere. Save your liberal agenda for someone who cares.
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I find it really funny the people who claim we are experiencing the wussification of american because intelligent people don't beat their wives or children ... are the exact same people frightened to death over these ISIS dopes 7,000 miles away. Who is really the wuss?

The fact is people are a product of their environment. Beating your kids does not make them well behaved, it makes them immune to being beat. But hey, it's a lot easier to lash out in uncontrollable anger than to be smart enough to sit down and lovingly charm a child into thinking and acting properly. That takes actual intelligence.
 
bocabull said:
I find it really funny the people who claim we are experiencing the wussification of american because intelligent people don't beat their wives or children ... are the exact same people frightened to death over these ISIS dopes 7,000 miles away. Who is really the wuss?

The fact is people are a product of their environment. Beating your kids does not make them well behaved, it makes them immune to being beat. But hey, it's a lot easier to lash out in uncontrollable anger than to be smart enough to sit down and lovingly charm a child into thinking and acting properly. That takes actual intelligence.
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Like I said. Liberal Agenda. I assume you think the Redskins should change their name? Spanking your child is wrong? I said he went to far, he admitted to the mother he went to far, but havent we all disciplined our children too hard at times?

Im sure youre perfect Boca.
 
bocabull said:
I find it really funny the people who claim we are experiencing the wussification of american because intelligent people don't beat their wives or children ... are the exact same people frightened to death over these ISIS dopes 7,000 miles away. Who is really the wuss?

The fact is people are a product of their environment. Beating your kids does not make them well behaved, it makes them immune to being beat. But hey, it's a lot easier to lash out in uncontrollable anger than to be smart enough to sit down and lovingly charm a child into thinking and acting properly. That takes actual intelligence.
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Has anyone suggested it is acceptable to beat a child or spouse?

What I have read is differing opinions on the use of spanking. I think most people likely believe using a switch is a bit too far and using a switch when you break the skin is almost certainly too far.

Personally, I think Coolm had one of the better responses.
 
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