March Madness and Covid-19

[thebigabd]

not sure why you guys offer up caveats about not being lawyers or other experts in a field because when someone actually is an expert in the field you argue with them and deny what they say anyway if you don't like the info.

haha. Love this.

 

[thebigabd]

Saw this on Twitter... pretty funny.

 

[MJSooner]

Interesting opinion piece by Tucker Carlson.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-shortage-medical-masks-stop-lying

I would never say I am on the same side as Tucker Carlson but I am thought some of the same points in his opinion piece.

They have told the public that wearing a mask is not necessary if you are not sick, but yet medical providers call masks ESSENTIAL personal protective gear. That does not square. Yeah, I get it medical providers are in front of it more and can't social distance, but either it is effective in preventing it or not, for everyone. And yes, medical providers need it masks first and foremost over me for my trips to QT, Target or Lowes.

The other thing that doesn't square is they say this is an airborne disease spread by droplets in the air, and masks and shields are critical for medical providers, but yet they tell us how important it is to wash our hands and not touch our face. Yeah, I get it, good hygiene is important, but are we more likely to get it off surfaces or from being in close contact with others? I tend to think to just merely touch a door handle or ATM machine, or picking up my mail or Amazon delivery is not the primary way people are getting this disease.

I get it, all the steps we can take to prevent the spread are helpful and sometimes we have to go to extremes just to get half the people to change even moderately. Again, I don't want to say I agree with Tucker Carlson, but I agree that we just need the honest facts. If they don't know, then say they don't know. If they do know, then tell us.

 

[MJSooner]

https://www.cantonrep.com/news/20200330/8-strains-of-coronavirus-are-circling-globe-herersquos-clues-theyrsquore-giving-scientists

This article about the different strains was posted yesterday. From the article:

"Chiu says it appears unlikely the differences are related to people being infected with different strains of the virus.

“The current virus strains are still fundamentally very similar to each other,” he said."

Yep, a lot of false stories out there about how the virus has mutated, jumped, etc, etc, etc. Even Snopes has put out false claims to many of them and now Twitter is deleting or banning posts.

 

[mict085]

not sure why you guys offer up caveats about not being lawyers or other experts in a field because when someone actually is an expert in the field you argue with them and deny what they say anyway if you don't like the info.

Who here is an expert in the field of anything. Who? Name them and their credentials. I would like to know.

 

[MJSooner]

Who here is an expert in the field of anything. Who? Name them and their credentials. I would like to know.

I am sure we have several experts, by definition, on this board in their professional field or in their field of interest or hobby.

If you look at the definition of an expert, I can think of several posters that may be experts in their profession, or maybe an expert in OU basketball history, etc.

If you study something for years or work in a vocation for years and years, you are an expert by definition. Just because one disagrees with their opinions, doesn't mean they are not an expert.

 

[steverocks35]

Who here is an expert in the field of anything. Who? Name them and their credentials. I would like to know.

I have degrees in microbiology and medical technology and a master's degree from OU in public health. I am the head of hematology at the VA where I work. I don't know if that qualifies me as an "expert" but I have a good background in this topic and know enough to rely on good sources.

 

[sheepdogs1]

I would never say I am on the same side as Tucker Carlson but I am thought some of the same points in his opinion piece.

They have told the public that wearing a mask is not necessary if you are not sick, but yet medical providers call masks ESSENTIAL personal protective gear. That does not square. Yeah, I get it medical providers are in front of it more and can't social distance, but either it is effective in preventing it or not, for everyone. And yes, medical providers need it masks first and foremost over me for my trips to QT, Target or Lowes.

The other thing that doesn't square is they say this is an airborne disease spread by droplets in the air, and masks and shields are critical for medical providers, but yet they tell us how important it is to wash our hands and not touch our face. Yeah, I get it, good hygiene is important, but are we more likely to get it off surfaces or from being in close contact with others? I tend to think to just merely touch a door handle or ATM machine, or picking up my mail or Amazon delivery is not the primary way people are getting this disease.

I get it, all the steps we can take to prevent the spread are helpful and sometimes we have to go to extremes just to get half the people to change even moderately. Again, I don't want to say I agree with Tucker Carlson, but I agree that we just need the honest facts. If they don't know, then say they don't know. If they do know, then tell us.

One can agree on how to put out a grease fire, but not meet eye to eye on how to start one. I think people get a bit carried away with agreeing with a person on a specific issue, but at the same time be in fear they will be seen as a clone of that person. Not necessary.

 

[sheepdogs1]

I am sure we have several experts, by definition, on this board in their professional field or in their field of interest or hobby.

If you look at the definition of an expert, I can think of several posters that may be experts in their profession, or maybe an expert in OU basketball history, etc.

If you study something for years or work in a vocation for years and years, you are an expert by definition. Just because one disagrees with their opinions, doesn't mean they are not an expert.

The word "expert" is grossly overused for one. Secondly, not all experts find themselves in agreement on most issues. For some reason we live in a society where people insist placing labels on everything which walks, talks or vacillates, and when there is disagreement out comes the label bag.

 

[mict085]

I have degrees in microbiology and medical technology and a master's degree from OU in public health. I am the head of hematology at the VA where I work. I don't know if that qualifies me as an "expert" but I have a good background in this topic and know enough to rely on good sources.

I wouldn’t say expert but you are more qualified than most to speak on this.

 

[MJSooner]

One can agree on how to put out a grease fire, but not meet eye to eye on how to start one. I think people get a bit carried away with agreeing with a person on a specific issue, but at the same time be in fear they will be seen as a clone of that person. Not necessary.

Well said and thanks for relieving my fears. I was fearful I might have to avoid haircuts, get rid of all my suits other than the solid navy one, buy some striped shirts, and purchase nothing but red and blue ties.

 

[steverocks35]

I wouldn’t say expert but you are more qualified than most to speak on this.

Thank you

 

[coolm]

Who here is an expert in the field of anything. Who? Name them and their credentials. I would like to know.

I'd suppose that people are experts in the areas they spent their lives working within. you disagree?

 

[MJSooner]

The word "expert" is grossly overused for one. Secondly, not all experts find themselves in agreement on most issues. For some reason we live in a society where people insist placing labels on everything which walks, talks or vacillates, and when there is disagreement out comes the label bag.

I don't think the word is grossly overused, I think it is grossly misapplied. Too many people think that an expert is one who is the only voice that can never be wrong.

The definition of an expert is "someone who has broad and deep competence in terms of knowledge, skill, and experience through practice and education in a particular field."

That is why experts find disagreements among themselves on issues. An example you might appreciate. IF there are two PGA golfers, I would call them experts. But if they approach a shot on the fairway, they might pick out different clubs. It doesn't make one of them not an expert, it just means they disagree on the application of their knowledge.

People today think if an expert has a thesis that disagrees with their opinion, it disqualifies them as an expert. That is how the term is grossly misapplied. We even see it on this board, which is what I think coolm was referencing.

 

[sheepdogs1]

Well said and thanks for relieving my fears. I was fearful I might have to avoid haircuts, get rid of all my suits other than the solid navy one, buy some striped shirts, and purchase nothing but red and blue ties.

This is especially true in politics. Agree with someone who does not follow your mainstream way of thought and you will be outed as a devil in sheep's clothing. Ellen Degeneres found that out when she sat next to Bush and was seen actually talking to him and with a smile on her face, mind you.

 

[sheepdogs1]

I don't think the word is grossly overused, I think it is grossly misapplied. Too many people think that an expert is one who is the only voice that can never be wrong.

The definition of an expert is "someone who has broad and deep competence in terms of knowledge, skill, and experience through practice and education in a particular field."

That is why experts find disagreements among themselves on issues. An example you might appreciate. IF there are two PGA golfers, I would call them experts. But if they approach a shot on the fairway, they might pick out different clubs. It doesn't make one of them not an expert, it just means they disagree on the application of their knowledge.

People today think if an expert has a thesis that disagrees with their opinion, it disqualifies them as an expert. That is how the term is grossly misapplied. We even see it on this board, which is what I think coolm was referencing.

I agree completely. And stop hitting your tee shots in the rough.

 

[sheepdogs1]

I wouldn’t say expert but you are more qualified than most to speak on this.

I agree as well but he needs more buttons.

 

[sheepdogs1]

Well said and thanks for relieving my fears. I was fearful I might have to avoid haircuts, get rid of all my suits other than the solid navy one, buy some striped shirts, and purchase nothing but red and blue ties.

You forgot the laugh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

 

[steverocks35]

I don't think the word is grossly overused, I think it is grossly misapplied. Too many people think that an expert is one who is the only voice that can never be wrong.

The definition of an expert is "someone who has broad and deep competence in terms of knowledge, skill, and experience through practice and education in a particular field."

That is why experts find disagreements among themselves on issues. An example you might appreciate. IF there are two PGA golfers, I would call them experts. But if they approach a shot on the fairway, they might pick out different clubs. It doesn't make one of them not an expert, it just means they disagree on the application of their knowledge.

People today think if an expert has a thesis that disagrees with their opinion, it disqualifies them as an expert. That is how the term is grossly misapplied. We even see it on this board, which is what I think coolm was referencing.

That's true, but some people think because they play on weekends they should be criticizing PGA tour pros lol.

 

[MJSooner]

That's true, but some people think because they play on weekends they should be criticizing PGA tour pros lol.

:ez-laugh: Love it, so true.

But I know that wasn't a reference to any comments in this thread though, right?