March Madness and Covid-19

[fhosu]

They need to be doing this in a few areas around the country, and making the results a big deal. Either way, the results need to be reported everywhere. This is the kind of thing that can support us opening back up pretty quickly if true. I'm all for that, but it sure would be nice to have a few studies like this to support the cause. Again, a few of us around here have long suspected this to be the case.

I'm all for opening back up, but their study indicated up to only 5.6% of people tested had COVID-19 antibodies. I'm sure it's more than that now, but that leaves a whole lot of people that could get still get sick.

 

[coolm]

They need to be doing this in a few areas around the country, and making the results a big deal. Either way, the results need to be reported everywhere. This is the kind of thing that can support us opening back up pretty quickly if true. I'm all for that, but it sure would be nice to have a few studies like this to support the cause. Again, a few of us around here have long suspected this to be the case.

This is not a surprise. Go back and read this thread a couple weeks ago. "the asymptomatic numbers can be as high as 50%".

 

[dksooner]

They need to be doing this in a few areas around the country, and making the results a big deal. Either way, the results need to be reported everywhere. This is the kind of thing that can support us opening back up pretty quickly if true. I'm all for that, but it sure would be nice to have a few studies like this to support the cause. Again, a few of us around here have long suspected this to be the case.

Good luck finding any positive reports in the media, they want this thing to be deadly. Why is steve and the others not here excited that it's not as deadly?

 

[thebigabd]

Good luck finding any positive reports in the media, they want this thing to be deadly. Why is steve and the others not here excited that it's not as deadly?

Hey dude, Steve is out there working his ass off trying to keep this thing from spreading... Go back to the beginning of this thread and you will see he was pretty much the only one who knew what he was talking about.

He works in the field, is trying to keep people safe, and has children. He does NOT want this to be deadly.

 

[thebigabd]

I saw we now have mobile testing at OU-Tulsa and OSU-Tulsa.... still nothing from Walmart, Target, and CVS. Big surprise.

 

[sheepdogs1]

I saw we now have mobile testing at OU-Tulsa and OSU-Tulsa.... still nothing from Walmart, Target, and CVS. Big surprise.

Actually, they either have testing sites open or they do not, and some do, thus that does not qualify as nothing except when utilizing your distorted view. What qualifies as nothing is your ability to be honest for you are a truth whore. You chastise and ridicule the very same things you are openly critical of. Next time a safe opportunity to frequent a local store presents itself try stocking up on credibility. Now I apologize for being rough on you, but you bring it upon yourself.


https://www.businessinsider.com/walmart-cvs-target-share-update-on-coronavirus-test-sites-2020-4

 

[thebigabd]

Actually, they they either have testing sites open or they do not, and some do, thus that does not qualify as nothing except when utilizing your distorted view. What qualifies as nothing is your ability to be honest for you are a truth whore. You chastise and ridicule the very same things you are openly critical of. Next time a safe opportunity to frequent a local store presents itself try stocking up on credibility. Now I apologize for being rough on you, but you bring it upon yourself.


https://www.businessinsider.com/walmart-cvs-target-share-update-on-coronavirus-test-sites-2020-4

So I attacked these three retailers for still not coming through on what they said they were going to do, and you link me in article that says they have 3 sites open in the entire country and you think thats proof of success?

Man, this is exhausting.

 

[Eielson]

Good luck finding any positive reports in the media, they want this thing to be deadly. Why is steve and the others not here excited that it's not as deadly?

I've been opposed to a number of different actions taken (some of which I willingly take back, some of which I don't), but make no mistake, this thing is deadly as ****. Overreactions -- perhaps. But it has been absolutely devastating to the state of NY.

 

[Eielson]

Also...influenza is no joke in the elderly community.

 

[sheepdogs1]

I've been opposed to a number of different actions taken (some of which I willingly take back, some of which I don't), but make no mistake, this thing is deadly as ****. Overreactions -- perhaps. But it has been absolutely devastating to the state of NY.

If there have been overreactions it is purely local or regional in scope for some places such as New York, Jersey (are you from Jersey?), Mass, Conn and Penn are in another world. People tend to speak from their own experiences thus the view will vary from one person to another because their experiences are different.

 

[dksooner]

I've been opposed to a number of different actions taken (some of which I willingly take back, some of which I don't), but make no mistake, this thing is deadly as ****. Overreactions -- perhaps. But it has been absolutely devastating to the state of NY.

The mortality rate is not as deadly as what the so called experts said it was. I'm still skeptical that all those deaths in NY are covid. NY and NJ with half the deaths of the whole country, really?

 

[thebigabd]

The mortality rate is not as deadly as what the so called experts said it was. I'm still skeptical that all those deaths in NY are covid. NY and NJ with half the deaths of the whole country, really?

Here we go.....

At first, its not that dangerous... Then it transformed into "its dangerous, but only if you are old"... Then it transformed into, "ok, 45,000 people have died in 3 months, but I doubt they are all Covid".

Just zig zagging through different phases of denial.

Look.... its a deadly virus that has shut down large parts of the world. The US has changed for 3-4 weeks and has brought us to our knees. The government is spending trillions of dollars trying to keep people in their homes, from killing themselves, from going broke, etc... That's how fragile the whole thing is... Stop working for 3 weeks and the system is on life support, and entire industries go down.

Let's stop trying to downplay it... Even Donald Trump believes if we didn't shut down we would be talking about an insane death toll. The virus IS that deadly.

 

[Eielson]

The mortality rate is not as deadly as what the so called experts said it was. I'm still skeptical that all those deaths in NY are covid. NY and NJ with half the deaths of the whole country, really?

Severe cases of COVID are quite distinct. Sure, there are probably a few that died with COVID rather than because of it, but I'd bet those numbers are very, very low. Much lower than the number of patients that die in their home.

I understand the position you're taking, as I too pondered if that would be the case before it swept through the NE, but I assure you that no hospital that has been ravaged by COVID shares that opinion any longer.

 

[Eielson]

We know the number of deaths, and there are only two variables -- death rate and infection rate. If the death rate is much lower than we thought, it also means the infection is more easily spread than we thought. Lower death rates is certainly great news, but it isn't completely without downside.

 

[tooney]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshua...-19-deaths-in-the-us-and-europe/#5bcc249382d7

Deaths from covid-19 probably underreported.

 

[steverocks35]

Hey dude, Steve is out there working his ass off trying to keep this thing from spreading... Go back to the beginning of this thread and you will see he was pretty much the only one who knew what he was talking about.

He works in the field, is trying to keep people safe, and has children. He does NOT want this to be deadly.

Thanks for the kind words my friend, that’s all true.

I spent the day helping plan two more drive up Covid-19 collection sites. If you guys know any veterans who might be having symptoms tell them to call their providers and make an appointment to get tested Tuesday 4/21. One site is at the 31st st. clinic in Tulsa and one at the hospital in Muskogee. I’ll be processing specimens all day tomorrow in my sterile bunny suit lol.

 

[BoulderSooner]

This is not a surprise. Go back and read this thread a couple weeks ago. "the asymptomatic numbers can be as high as 50%".

This of true would be much much higher than 50% asymptomatic

 

[coolm]

if true? iceland and the cruise ship were most definitely "true" and they were 50%. our numbers are seriously skewed because while THEY did a whole cross-section WE only tested select people who met certain symptom patterns. we'd have been better off just making sure our hospital admission standards and counts were accurate and steady. at least then our graph would match.

 

[MsProudSooner]

When they are talking about people who are asymptomatic do they mean they test positive but they never get sick?

Both of my daughters and their husbands have had short illnesses since the beginning of March where they ran a fever of 101 or so for 2 or 3 days and had a cough but that was it. It would be nice if we had been at least well enough prepared that they could have been tested for the virus when they were sick or for antibodies now.

 

[BoulderSooner]

if true? iceland and the cruise ship were most definitely "true" and they were 50%. our numbers are seriously skewed because while THEY did a whole cross-section WE only tested select people who met certain symptom patterns. we'd have been better off just making sure our hospital admission standards and counts were accurate and steady. at least then our graph would match.

If that study is accurate. Then the asymptotic rate is closer to 80-90% or higher