March Madness and Covid-19

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Rt for Oklahoma is currently sitting at 1.00 after spiking.

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Arizona, California, Texas and Florida all report sub 1.00. If this continues as is, the cases and deaths should drop appreciably from their respective elevated numbers.
 
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I watched the entire interview and the whole thing was like a parody or performance art. I face-palmed at least 10 times.

Look at this just today, another cringe-worthy moment. He pronounced "Yosemite" as "Yo-Semites." He's functionally illiterate, it's amazing. I actually pity the guy, he's completely incapable of doing the job. It must be hell for him.

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ya the record breaking economy just happened by accident/coincidence or better yet, obama did it..
 
ya the record breaking economy just happened by accident/coincidence or better yet, obama did it..

Sure Jan, it was the guy that watches TV and tweets nonsense all day. And if he had managed the pandemic competently our economy wouldn’t have cratered like it did. But he’s an imbecile who doesn’t understand voting by mail, how infectious diseases are spread, or even simple charts and graphs.

You’re a lawyer, how could you look at Trump and think “that’s a competent intelligent leader!”?
 
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Sure Jan, it was the guy that watches TV and tweets nonsense all day. And if he had managed the pandemic competently our economy wouldn’t have cratered like it did. But he’s an imbecile who doesn’t understand voting by mail, how infectious diseases or spread, or even simple charts and graphs.

It's his policies and beliefs that fed the economy. What, you think the President has to be actively out in the streets everyday to bring about change or good results? Trump is a business man. It was known before he was elected that the economy would take off if he won the election.

And no, if he managed the pandemic like you and some others wanted, we'd have been closed even longer than we were, and we'd have an even larger hole to dig ourselves out of.
 
It's his policies and beliefs that fed the economy. What, you think the President has to be actively out in the streets everyday to bring about change or good results? Trump is a business man. It was known before he was elected that the economy would take off if he won the election.

And no, if he managed the pandemic like you and some others wanted, we'd have been closed even longer than we were, and we'd have an even larger hole to dig ourselves out of.

Ah so it must have been President Obama’s “policies and beliefs” that fed the economy during the boom of the previous 2 years before Trump took office. Got it.

And no, as I said before, if we had knocked out the pandemic in the early days we would have taken a hit then, of course, but it would have been better in the long run, and I’m not the only person who has said this.
 
We can’t restore the economy until we defeat Covid-19, period. This is not a controversial statement.
 
It's his policies and beliefs that fed the economy. What, you think the President has to be actively out in the streets everyday to bring about change or good results? Trump is a business man. It was known before he was elected that the economy would take off if he won the election.

And no, if he managed the pandemic like you and some others wanted, we'd have been closed even longer than we were, and we'd have an even larger hole to dig ourselves out of.

Which are? Basically the only thing working for the stock market is that trump will do anything to make the numbers good. The only benefits he’s done to the economy is lower welfare & continue on Obama’s path.
 
Which are? Basically the only thing working for the stock market is that trump will do anything to make the numbers good. The only benefits he’s done to the economy is lower welfare & continue on Obama’s path.

How does Trump make the numbers good?
 
Convalescent plasma seems to be a worthwhile treatment. I know in our area, it’s being used quite a bit.


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It's his policies and beliefs that fed the economy. What, you think the President has to be actively out in the streets everyday to bring about change or good results? Trump is a business man.

Nothing about the economy changed. See below.

It was known before he was elected that the economy would take off if he won the election.

ya the record breaking economy just happened by accident/coincidence or better yet, obama did it..

My feelings on the economy are different than most on the forum, in that traditional measures are not adequate and typically don't address the real numbers. 45% of the country makes less than $15 an hour, 70% lives paycheck to paycheck, half the country is on anti-depressants, etc so on. You guys have heard them before.

That being said, could you guys try to be a little objective about what Trump inherited?

There was 76 consecutive months of job growth.. That is 6 years and 4 months. That's just a fact. It is what it is.

The unemployment rate fell every year from 2009 to 2016 from 10% (due to the Bush Recession), all the way down to 4.8% when Obama left office. It's literally an identical continuation of what had already been done. It's great, for everyone involved. I am glad it continued on the same downward slope, but come on... Let's not act like Trump changed the graph.

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The GDP grew for 29 consecutive quarters under Obama, and continued under Trump. Trump had a 3% quarter in September 2018, Obama had a 3.8% quarter in March of 2015. Trump juiced this a little with tax cuts, while significantly increasing to our national debt..... But regardless, we had 29 consecutive quarters of GDP growth when Trump came in. It's just more continuation, with some juicing from a corporate tax cut.

The S&P 500 grew 113% over Obamas terms. If you look at the charts, the markets have, like many other charts, continued on the EXACT SAME trend they were already on.

The DOW ended up hitting 118 "all time highs" (that you guys would call records) in the last 4 years of Obama. It increased 148% under Obama.

Trump inherited a DOW at nearly 20,000.... Today, it's 27,000. It's continued on the same upward trend it was already on.

All of these traditional measures... DOW, S&P, Unemployment, GDP growth, etc have continued on the exact same path. That isn't biased, it isn't false, it isn't some liberal narrative. It just is what it is. The economy was going up, and it kept going up.

When he says something like "the market has hit all time high under me!!!!"... Technically true, you just didn't see 118 tweets from Obama when it hit a high under his watch. Trump is apparently more effective at advertising it.

When Trump touts the black unemployment rate and tries to take full credit for it, what he isn't saying is that like a lot of these other numbers, it stayed on the exact same path it was already on.

Look at the chart... You could change the name of Obama and Trump to "Fred Flinstone and George Jetson" and it would have continued on that same slope.

I mean, it takes some serious gall to, with a straight face, use this number to say you've done more for an entire race of people than ANY OTHER President in history. IT'S ON THE EXACT SAME PATH! You can't just snap your fingers and take it from 16% to 5% over night. Just like it took Trump a few years to get it from 8 to 5.5. It's just on a continual downward path.

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Nothing about the economy changed. See below.





My feelings on the economy are different than most on the forum, in that traditional measures are not adequate and typically don't address the real numbers. 45% of the country makes less than $15 an hour, 70% lives paycheck to paycheck, half the country is on anti-depressants, etc so on. You guys have heard them before.

That being said, could you guys try to be a little objective about what Trump inherited?

There was 76 consecutive months of job growth.. That is 6 years and 4 months. That's just a fact. It is what it is.

The unemployment rate fell every year from 2009 to 2016 from 10% (due to the Bush Recession), all the way down to 4.8% when Obama left office. It's literally an identical continuation of what had already been done. It's great, for everyone involved. I am glad it continued on the same downward slope, but come on... Let's not act like Trump changed the graph.

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The GDP grew for 29 consecutive quarters under Obama, and continued under Trump. Trump had a 3% quarter in September 2018, Obama had a 3.8% quarter in March of 2015. Trump juiced this a little with tax cuts, while significantly increasing to our national debt..... But regardless, we had 29 consecutive quarters of GDP growth when Trump came in. It's just more continuation, with some juicing from a corporate tax cut.

The S&P 500 grew 113% over Obamas terms. If you look at the charts, the markets have, like many other charts, continued on the EXACT SAME trend they were already on.

The DOW ended up hitting 118 "all time highs" (that you guys would call records) in the last 4 years of Obama. It increased 148% under Obama.

Trump inherited a DOW at nearly 20,000.... Today, it's 27,000. It's continued on the same upward trend it was already on.

All of these traditional measures... DOW, S&P, Unemployment, GDP growth, etc have continued on the exact same path. That isn't biased, it isn't false, it isn't some liberal narrative. It just is what it is. The economy was going up, and it kept going up.

When he says something like "the market has hit all time high under me!!!!"... Technically true, you just didn't see 118 tweets from Obama when it hit a high under his watch. Trump is apparently more effective at advertising it.

When Trump touts the black unemployment rate and tries to take full credit for it, what he isn't saying is that like a lot of these other numbers, it stayed on the exact same path it was already on.

Look at the chart... You could change the name of Obama and Trump to "Fred Flinstone and George Jetson" and it would have continued on that same slope.

I mean, it takes some serious gall to, with a straight face, use this number to say you've done more for an entire race of people than ANY OTHER President in history. IT'S ON THE EXACT SAME PATH! You can't just snap your fingers and take it from 16% to 5% over night. Just like it took Trump a few years to get it from 8 to 5.5. It's just on a continual downward path.

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good post abd

I'll disagree on the Dow though...It was increasing under Obama, but the slope changed quite a bit when trump took over...it wasn't the same incline. It looks like a similar incline if you look at just today's number after covid. But before covid, it was doing exceptional.
 
Nothing about the economy changed. See below.







Trump inherited a DOW at nearly 20,000.... Today, it's 27,000. It's continued on the same upward trend it was already on.



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Why did you choose an index with 30 issues?

Did the NASDAQ hit an all time high yesterday or is that an inaccurate statement.

Is the S&P 500 within about 2% of its all time high?
 
Why did you choose an index with 30 issues?

Did the NASDAQ hit an all time high yesterday or is that an inaccurate statement.

Is the S&P 500 within about 2% of its all time high?

NASDAQ is the same thing... see the chart below. Continuing the same upward lift it has been on since 2010.

And of course it's an accurate statement... Again though, the DOW hit 118 "all time highs" under Obama, then it continued hitting "all time highs" under Trump... The Nasdaq is no different.

The difference is advertising... We didn't hear "NEW ALL TIME HIGH ALL BECAUSE OF ME!" hundreds of times under previous administrations like we do now.

But, like everything else I am demonstrating, it's on the same path it's been on for a long time. That is good. As a country we should want these things to continually improve regardless of who is president, but we should keep in mind the context.

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