Marcus smart just hit a fan!

Look at the lady to Smart's left that is clapping in his face. What would go through your mind as an adult to act that way?

Suprised no is bringing up when Thomas (can't remember his first name, was #0) went into the stands at GIA.

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What's wrong with the woman clapping in his face?
Have you ever watched any basketball, football, baseball, hockey games at the college level or above? That's not abnormal fan behavior. It's like pounding on the glass when a hockey player is pinned up against the boards.

Weren't we on here a couple weeks ago discussing which chants we could use to taunt an OSU player with a recent arrest? Wasn't our entire student section and a large part of our arena chanting, "Marcus Sucks!" on national TV not 12 days ago?

It's called sports. Fans taunt players. They yell at them. They insult them. They try to get in their heads. Might this guy have said something that crossed the line? Sure. But it doesn't matter what he said. You can't do what Smart did.
 
Well, this incident helped the site set a new online users record. It got over 700. Previous record was 420 I think. So there's that.

Unbelievable!

You may have to start a new thread in a couple of days to announce the new record, though. I'm not sure anyone will notice right now. Marcus "Artest" Smart captured the attention of the basketball world earlier tonight.
 
Do we need a dictionary?
What is an attack?


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Smart shoved this guy. Once. In the chest.

Sorry, that isn't attacking someone. Actually makes me chuckle thinking of calling this an attack. It's a stupid thing to do, but again, let's put the pitchforks down slllowwwlllyyyy.
 
Is Marcus on anabolic steroids? I'm starting to worry about him.
 
Smart shoved this guy. Once. In the chest.

Sorry, that isn't attacking someone. Actually makes me chuckle thinking of calling this an attack. It's a stupid thing to do, but again, let's put the pitchforks down slllowwwlllyyyy.


So I Go to walmart and pushed somebody that isn't attacking them? Hmmm good to know.


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1 : to set upon or work against forcefully 2 : to assail with unfriendly or bitter words 3 : to begin to affect or to act on injuriously <plants attacked by aphids> 4 : to set to work on <attack a problem> 5 : to threaten (a piece in chess) with immediate capture


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I just find it difficult to believe that, upon initially seeing a game winning play by his team, a fan is going to yell a racial slur at an opponent's player.....with so many people within earshot. Not impossible, but unlikely.
 
Not worth arguing with Bounce. He knows he's wrong, just argues to be a nuisance.


If you go push a stranger in the street it is an attack. I have posted definitions. It's common sense. Arguing against that is idiotic


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Good luck with that.

In a perfect world, perhaps -- and if it's established that the fan used a racist epithet, I'd be all for Tech 86'ing him from their arena permanently. But Smart's behavior cannot be condoned, no matter what the fan said. Thousands of college basketball players have put up with fan nonsense and not lost their cool, and you can rest assured that many of the remarks shouted over the years have been offensive in one way or another.

But how many college players have gone up in the stands and attacked one of those fans?

Again, I have no defense of the fan if he crossed a line, but there's no defending Smart's behavior either.

Totally agree. Smart deserves a suspension as well as the fan. Lose the fan's tickets.

As far as college players getting into fan's faces, surely, Skyvue you remember Art Heyman at Duke, early 60s? Fiesty, Jewish ball player getting worked over by fans and players all through the South. Here's a piece of Wiki:

Heyman, who was Jewish, was born in New York City. After attending Oceanside High School in Nassau County, New York, the 6'5" guard/forward was heavily recruited by many schools, and originally signed a letter of intent to play for the North Carolina Tar Heels. At the last moment, however, Heyman changed his mind and agreed to play for the Tar Heels' greatest rivals, the Duke Blue Devils.


Due to NCAA eligibility rules that prohibited freshmen from playing varsity sports, Heyman played his first year at Duke with the Freshman team, which compiled a record of 10–5, including three victories over the Tar Heels. During one of the Duke-North Carolina freshman games, North Carolina freshman Dieter Krause attacked Heyman, leading to a melee where the two coaches had to be restrained from attacking each other. Heyman needed five stitches after the attack.

During his sophomore season, Heyman starred for the varsity team, and North Carolina and Duke again were at each other's throats. On February 4, 1961, the Duke and North Carolina Freshman teams had played the first game of the double header. There were multiple fights during the game, and North Carolina had finished the game with only three players on the floor (five North Carolina players had fouled out, and three more had been ejected for fighting). During the varsity game that night, Heyman was involved in two incidents, where he first pushed over a fan who he thought was attacking him, and then in the closing minutes of the game, while trying to protect a slim Duke lead, Heyman committed a hard foul against future Hall of Fame coach Larry Brown who was attempting to drive to the hoop. Brown threw the ball and then a punch at Heyman, touching off a general melee, which saw future basketball executive Donnie Walsh, then a substitute player for North Carolina, also attack Heyman. The melee lasted about ten minutes, and despite Heyman being ejected for fighting, his 36 points had given Duke the victory, 81–77.

Brown, Walsh and Heyman were all suspended for the remainder of the ACC season. Heyman was allowed to play in non-conference games, and the ACC Tournament. However, Duke failed to make the postseason, despite Heyman being voted the tournament's outstanding player, losing the ACC Tournament final to the Wake Forest Demon Deacons, 96–81. At the time, only the league champion was admitted to the NCAA Tournament, and league rules prohibited ACC teams from playing in the NIT Tournament. Heyman finished the season averaging 25 points and nearly 11 rebounds per game, and despite his suspension, Heyman was voted to the All-ACC basketball first team. He also won numerous national plaudits, being named to the UPI and AP Third-Team All American squad.
 
ESPN article on the Marcus Smart incident, complete with a replay of the scene that took place toward the end of the game. Andy Katz and Jay Bilas give their take on the matter. Katz also reports on his telephone conversation with the Big 12 commissioner. He says a decision may come down as early as tomorrow on any action the conference or OSU will take regarding what Smart did.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bas...arcus-smart-oklahoma-state-cowboys-shoves-fan
 
Big 12 coordinator of officials Curtis Shaw told ESPN that the officials don't have jurisdiction to eject a player who is involved with a fan.

"There is no precedent for that," Shaw said. "Our rules are for flagrant 1 or 2. We don't have grounds for dealing with a fan. We don't have a rule to get involved when the player is involved with a fan. We don't know what was said. The official, Doug Sirmons, didn't know what was said."

They probably need to fix this.
 
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Not worth arguing with Bounce. He knows he's wrong, just argues to be a nuisance.

Bounce can be difficult with issues at times but the idea that he is wrong on this is absurd. You can't go around shoving/assaulting/attacking people if they say something you don't like. Period, end of story. I wonder who made the worse comment, Tech Fan or GIA Chair, because Smart has attacked both. It would appear that Smart can explode on anything or anyone for any, or in the chairs case, no reason. Funny that he didn't attack the fan until he knew OSU lost, coincidence?
 
I was one of those to start the year that thought Smart was a pretty darn good player, yes he flops like crazy but he did a lot of things that are good basketball plays. But as the year has played out he hasn't been doing those things and well on the court. Now he does something like this that will probably end his season and maybe his career at OSU.

This to me is almost worse than Artest. Artest had a drink poored on him when he didn't see it coming. Yes he deserved his suspension, but to me he wasn't just verbally provoked and reacted right away when he was really provoked. Smart sat there for what seemed like 10 seconds before getting up and reacting. And it doesn't matter what a fan says. Fans will talk crap 1 million times worse in the NBA. And some of them are rich guys with court side seats. As a high profiled player words shouldn't offend you like that especially if you are projected to be a pro like Smart supposedly is.
 
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