Porter MF Moser!!

Boom Soon said:
I agree with this. We may look back on the move to the SEC as the downfall of OU men’s sports. Even more than NIL.
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Ahh see this is is where I disagree. In the long run, it’s the right move. If we hadn’t we would’ve been left behind monetarily. An extra 20-30 million in payouts annually will make a massive difference and eventually the university will get up to speed. It has too much invested in it not too. Things are never as good nor as bad as they seem
 
cbertus6 said:
Ahh see this is is where I disagree. In the long run, it’s the right move. If we hadn’t we would’ve been left behind monetarily. An extra 20-30 million in payouts annually will make a massive difference and eventually the university will get up to speed. It has too much invested in it not too. Things are never as good nor as bad as they seem
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Fair enough! I hope you’re right!
 
cbertus6 said:
Ahh see this is is where I disagree. In the long run, it’s the right move. If we hadn’t we would’ve been left behind monetarily. An extra 20-30 million in payouts annually will make a massive difference and eventually the university will get up to speed. It has too much invested in it not too. Things are never as good nor as bad as they seem
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We should have went to the big 10 tho..
 
cbertus6 said:
Ahh see this is is where I disagree. In the long run, it’s the right move. If we hadn’t we would’ve been left behind monetarily. An extra 20-30 million in payouts annually will make a massive difference and eventually the university will get up to speed. It has too much invested in it not too. Things are never as good nor as bad as they seem
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agree, had to make the move to the SEC with the direction college sports is heading. Also alot of OU fans are experiencing 2 major things right now, one having both the football and basketball programs not experiencing much success in the win column and two the different fan culture of being in the SEC. Right now OU is being dragged thorugh the mud for not winning and for the lack of fan support in basketball and baseball.. its going to be some rough early years for sure but gotta hang in there.
 
snydrosooner said:
Dari was in school at ou in kelvin Sampson are. We lived in sane floor in dorms. Students were lined up an hour early to get the seats, mostly freshman. Non students was still only full for big games, plenty of upper deck. It’s tough to see the attendance and support what it is.
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I was in school at the same time. Was at all the games in the student section. It wasn’t full for most games then, but it’s gotten worse over the years.
 
ouboomer said:
agree, had to make the move to the SEC with the direction college sports is heading. Also alot of OU fans are experiencing 2 major things right now, one having both the football and basketball programs not experiencing much success in the win column and two the different fan culture of being in the SEC. Right now OU is being dragged through the mud for the lack of fan attendance its already starting with having only 900 people at a baseball game which ranks last of all SEC teams that played at home on Friday.
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We're starting from scratch, and it's hard for our fan base to get its heads around it. SEC fan bases don't care if we have 7 NCs in football or 8 in softball. We have to prove ourselves all over again, and we're off to a terrible start in the two revenue sports.

The OU football program was built as a way to build state pride after the Depression and World War II. The movers and shakers of the state decided that investment in a football program was the way to do that. Our parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents were raised and conditioned to be OU football fans. OU football represents the university and the state. The other sports are along for the ride. Basketball, even in the Tubbs and Sampson eras, has struggled to sustain a sizable fan base. Softball has been able to gain a large following due to its success: 8 nattys for Patty. With that said, basketball still sells more tickets and breaks even if it doesn't turn a small profit. Our fans don't automatically show up for things just because a team is wearing an OU logo.

Football fans are desperate for success. We filled a 50,000 seat stadium in Fort Worth for a spare bowl game at 11 am on a Friday morning with 30 players missing. I realize a lot of those fans were local, but they made an effort to show up.

With the new conference, NIL, and the transfer portal, the paradigm has changed. It's not enough anymore to show up and say "We're Oklahoma".
 
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Seymore Cox said:
It’s not about SEC or NIL . It’s about bad coaches.
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That’s my take, too. When people say we are the new Nebraska, I disagree. Our football team showed immediate “slippage,” to borrow Moser’s word, when Brent took over. Finished under .500 in a relatively weak Big 12 in year one, and couldn’t even make the league title game despite a very soft schedule in year two. And this year, we would have been in the bottom few teams in the conference if we were still there. And basketball … goes without saying we have been pretty hopeless in conference since the day mid major Moser showed up. If we continue to flounder for multiple years after moving on from both these buffoons, then I’ll be willing to reconsider, but as of now, this has a lot more to do with incompetent, overmatched coaches than conference affiliation.
 
Seymore Cox said:
It’s not about SEC or NIL . It’s about bad coaches.
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Our NIL spending as it relates to the rest of the SEC is absolutely a factor. It’s doesn’t excuse Moser’s shitty tenure, but…

We will have to promise any coach worth a damn that we intend to spend more, or they won’t come to OU. I feel very confident in saying that.
 
colston15 said:
Our NIL spending as it relates to the rest of the SEC is absolutely a factor. It’s doesn’t excuse Moser’s shitty tenure, but…

We will have to promise any coach worth a damn that we intend to spend more, or they won’t come to OU. I feel very confident in saying that.
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We’ll have to agree to disagree. NIL is not a factor as it relates to the rest of the SEC. Another narrative created to make excuses for our lousy coaches.
 
soonertrash77 said:
We’ll have to agree to disagree. NIL is not a factor as it relates to the rest of the SEC. Another narrative created to make excuses for our lousy coaches.
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I don’t mention NIL as a defense of Moser. He’s indefensible.

But the next coach should demand a larger NIL budget, and we should want that as fans.
 
Who made this quote? “Porter Moser is a grinder.”


He’s not a grinder. Lon Kruger is a grinder, Kelvin Sampson is a grinder.

Moser is not a grinder. Case in poin, look at his former players.

 
IndySooner said:
I was in school at the same time. Was at all the games in the student section. It wasn’t full for most games then, but it’s gotten worse over the years.
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OU basketball fans have always been fair weather and only show up for big games when we’re winning. Sometimes, not even then. OU fans have never been all in for basketball. We’ve had some great crowds and some great runs, but even at our highest point, we’ve had half empty arenas for lesser opponents. There’s just never been the same level of excitement for bball as there is for FB. OU FB fans are rabid. OU Bball fans are luke warm most of the time. I don’t know why but that’s the way it’s always been.
 
mict085 said:
OU basketball fans have always been fair weather and only show up for big games when we’re winning. Sometimes, not even then. OU fans have never been all in for basketball. We’ve had some great crowds and some great runs, but even at our highest point, we’ve had half empty arenas for lesser opponents. There’s just never been the same level of excitement for bball as there is for FB. OU FB fans are rabid. OU Bball fans are luke warm most of the time. I don’t know why but that’s the way it’s always been.
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I’d point you to Auburn as a university that had similar feelings about their basketball programs up until about 8-10 years ago. Auburn used to be an absolute doormat as far as P5 teams went. Enter Bruce Pearl and a new arena and all of a sudden there’s excitement and investment from the fans. It just takes the right coach and quantifiable investment from the athletic department.
 
cbertus6 said:
I’d point you to Auburn as a university that had similar feelings about their basketball programs up until about 8-10 years ago. Auburn used to be an absolute doormat as far as P5 teams went. Enter Bruce Pearl and a new arena and all of a sudden there’s excitement and investment from the fans. It just takes the right coach and quantifiable investment from the athletic department.
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Yes. They invested in the program. Something that isn’t happening here at OU.
 
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