Season Plus / Minus Final

Re: Season Plus / Minus

Full season +/-
post KSU

Jalen Hill --------- +195
Jordan Goldwire - +184
Tanner Groves --- +173
Elijah Harkless --- +154
Umoja Gibson --- +148
Ethan Chargois -- +53
Bijan Cortes ------ +38
CJ Noland -------- +26
Jacob Groves ---- +18
Marvin Johnson --- -6
Akol Mawein ------ -13
Alston Mason ----- -14
Rick Issanza ------ -23

Conference only +/-
Ethan Chargois -- 12
Jordan Goldwire - +5
Elijah Harkless --- +5
Jalen Hill --------- +3
Umoja Gibson --- +3
Alston Mason ---- -3
CJ Noland -------- -4
Marvin Johnson -- -4
Rick Issanza ------ -7
Tanner Groves --- N/A
Jacob Groves ---- N/A
Bijan Cortes ------ N/A
Akol Mawein ------ N/A
 
Re: Season Plus / Minus

Full season +/-
post Baylor

Jalen Hill --------- +190
Jordan Goldwire - +182
Tanner Groves --- +167
Elijah Harkless --- +148
Umoja Gibson --- +139
Ethan Chargois -- +47
Bijan Cortes ------ +30
CJ Noland -------- +21
Jacob Groves ---- +15
Marvin Johnson --- -6
Akol Mawein ------ -13
Alston Mason ----- -14
Rick Issanza ------ -23

Conference only +/-

Ethan Chargois -- +6
Jordan Goldwire - +3
Elijah Harkless --- -1
Jalen Hill --------- -2
Jacob Groves ----- -3
Alston Mason ----- -3
Marvin Johnson -- -4
Umoja Gibson ---- -6
Tanner Groves ---- -6
Rick Issanza ------ -7
Bijan Cortes ------ -8
CJ Noland -------- -9
Akol Mawein ------ N/A
 
Re: Season Plus / Minus

Full season +/-
post ISU

Jalen Hill --------- +196
Tanner Groves --- +183
Jordan Goldwire - +167
Elijah Harkless --- +156
Umoja Gibson --- +152
Bijan Cortes ------ +55
Ethan Chargois -- +43
Jacob Groves ---- +29
CJ Noland -------- +22
Marvin Johnson --- -6
Akol Mawein ------ -13
Alston Mason ----- -14
Rick Issanza ------ -23

Conference only +/-

Bijan Cortes ----- +17
Jacob Groves ---- +11
Tanner Groves --- +10
Elijah Harkless --- +7
Umoja Gibson ---- +7
Jalen Hill --------- +6
Ethan Chargois -- +3
Alston Mason ----- -3
Marvin Johnson -- -4
Rick Issanza ------ -7
CJ Noland -------- -8
Jordan Goldwire - -12
Akol Mawein ------ N/A
 
Re: Season Plus / Minus

Have yourself an afternoon, Bijan Cortes!
 
Re: Season Plus / Minus

Full season +/-
post texas

Jalen Hill --------- +195
Tanner Groves --- +177
Jordan Goldwire - +161
Elijah Harkless --- +147
Umoja Gibson --- +145
Bijan Cortes ------ +43
Ethan Chargois -- +33
CJ Noland -------- +19
Jacob Groves ---- +13
Marvin Johnson --- -6
Akol Mawein ------ -13
Alston Mason ----- -14
Rick Issanza ------ -23

Conference only +/-

Jalen Hill --------- +5
Bijan Cortes ----- +5
Tanner Groves --- +4
Umoja Gibson ----- 0
Elijah Harkless --- -2
Alston Mason ----- -3
Marvin Johnson -- -4
Jacob Groves ----- -5
Ethan Chargois --- -7
Rick Issanza ------ -7
CJ Noland -------- -11
Jordan Goldwire - -18
Akol Mawein ------ N/A
 
Re: Season Plus / Minus

Full season +/-
post TCU

Jalen Hill --------- +188
Tanner Groves --- +182
Umoja Gibson --- +166
Jordan Goldwire - +162
Elijah Harkless --- +142
Bijan Cortes ------ +39
Ethan Chargois -- +33
Jacob Groves ---- +14
CJ Noland -------- +9
Marvin Johnson --- -6
Alston Mason ----- -14
Akol Mawein ------ -15
Rick Issanza ------ -28

Conference only +/-

Umoja Gibson --- +21
Tanner Groves --- +9
Bijan Cortes ------ +1
Jalen Hill ---------- -2
Akol Mawein ------ -2
Alston Mason ----- -3
Marvin Johnson --- -4
Jacob Groves ----- -4
Elijah Harkless ---- -7
Ethan Chargois --- -7
Rick Issanza ------ -12
Jordan Goldwire -- -17
CJ Noland --------- -21
 
Re: Season Plus / Minus

Full season +/-
post KU

Jalen Hill --------- +180
Tanner Groves --- +176
Jordan Goldwire - +170
Umoja Gibson --- +166
Elijah Harkless --- +121
Bijan Cortes ------ +38
Ethan Chargois -- +33
Jacob Groves ---- +22
CJ Noland -------- +11
Marvin Johnson --- -6
Alston Mason ----- -14
Akol Mawein ------ -12
Rick Issanza ------ -28

Conference only +/-

Umoja Gibson --- +21
Jacob Groves ----- +4
Tanner Groves --- +3
Akol Mawein ------ +1
Bijan Cortes ------- 0
Alston Mason ----- -3
Marvin Johnson --- -4
Ethan Chargois ---- -7
Jordan Goldwire --- -9
Jalen Hill --------- -10
Rick Issanza ------ -12
CJ Noland -------- -19
Elijah Harkless --- -28


brutal game for Harkless -21
 
Re: Season Plus / Minus

getting ready to do this update ... and warning it is not going to be pretty ..
 
Re: Season Plus / Minus

Full season +/-
post Baylor

Jalen Hill --------- +163
Tanner Groves --- +157
Jordan Goldwire - +156
Umoja Gibson --- +153
Elijah Harkless --- +99
Bijan Cortes ------ +41
Ethan Chargois -- +33
Jacob Groves ---- +22
CJ Noland -------- +11
Marvin Johnson --- -1
Alston Mason ----- -13
Akol Mawein ------ -6
Rick Issanza ------ -28

Conference only +/-

Umoja Gibson --- +8
Akol Mawein ----- +7
Jacob Groves ---- +4
Bijan Cortes ------ +3
Marvin Johnson -- +1
Alston Mason ----- -2
Ethan Chargois --- -7
Rick Issanza ----- -12
Tanner Groves --- -16
CJ Noland -------- -19
Jordan Goldwire -- -23
Jalen Hill ---------- -27
Elijah Harkless --- -50
 
Re: Season Plus / Minus

Dang! Harkless in Big 12 Conference play. Yeesh!
 
Re: Season Plus / Minus

Full season +/-
post WVU

Tanner Groves --- +166
Jalen Hill --------- +164
Jordan Goldwire - +159
Umoja Gibson --- +161
Elijah Harkless --- +101
Bijan Cortes ------ +48
Ethan Chargois -- +33
Jacob Groves ---- +30
CJ Noland -------- +17
Marvin Johnson --- +6
Akol Mawein ------ -7
Alston Mason ----- -13
Rick Issanza ------ -28

Conference only +/-

Umoja Gibson --- +16
Akol Mawein ----- +6
Jacob Groves ---- +12
Bijan Cortes ----- +10
Marvin Johnson -- +8
Alston Mason ----- -2
Tanner Groves ---- -7
Ethan Chargois --- -7
Rick Issanza ----- -12
CJ Noland -------- -13
Jordan Goldwire -- -20
Jalen Hill ---------- -26
Elijah Harkless --- -48
 
Re: Season Plus / Minus

Full season +/-
post Auburn

Tanner Groves --- +160
Jalen Hill --------- +160
Umoja Gibson --- +148
Jordan Goldwire - +142
Elijah Harkless --- +97
Bijan Cortes ------ +45
Ethan Chargois -- +21
Jacob Groves ---- +11
Marvin Johnson --- +8
CJ Noland --------- +3
Akol Mawein ------ -7
Alston Mason ----- -13
Rick Issanza ------ -28

Conference only +/-

Umoja Gibson --- +16
Akol Mawein ----- +6
Jacob Groves ---- +12
Bijan Cortes ----- +10
Marvin Johnson -- +8
Alston Mason ----- -2
Tanner Groves ---- -7
Ethan Chargois --- -7
Rick Issanza ----- -12
CJ Noland -------- -13
Jordan Goldwire -- -20
Jalen Hill ---------- -26
Elijah Harkless --- -48
 
Re: Season Plus / Minus

Full season +/-
post TCU

Tanner Groves --- +154
Jalen Hill --------- +152
Umoja Gibson --- +138
Jordan Goldwire - +137
Elijah Harkless --- +94
Bijan Cortes ------ +44
Ethan Chargois -- +18
Jacob Groves ----- -2
Marvin Johnson --- +8
CJ Noland --------- +6
Akol Mawein ------ -7
Alston Mason ----- -13
Rick Issanza ------ -28

Conference only +/-

Bijan Cortes ----- +9
Marvin Johnson -- +8
Umoja Gibson --- +6
Akol Mawein ----- +6
Jacob Groves ---- -1
Alston Mason ----- -2
CJ Noland -------- -10
Ethan Chargois -- -10
Rick Issanza ----- -12
Tanner Groves --- -13
Jordan Goldwire -- -25
Jalen Hill ---------- -34
Elijah Harkless --- -50
 
Re: Season Plus / Minus

Full season +/-
post osu

Tanner Groves --- +155
Jalen Hill --------- +153
Jordan Goldwire - +137
Umoja Gibson --- +134
Elijah Harkless --- +84
Bijan Cortes ------ +32
Ethan Chargois --- +9
Marvin Johnson --- +8
Jacob Groves ----- -6
CJ Noland --------- -2
Akol Mawein ------ -7
Alston Mason ----- -13
Rick Issanza ------ -28

Conference only +/-

Marvin Johnson -- +8
Akol Mawein ----- +6
Umoja Gibson --- +2
Bijan Cortes ------ -3
Jacob Groves ----- -5
Alston Mason ----- -2
Tanner Groves --- -12
Rick Issanza ----- -12
CJ Noland -------- -18
Ethan Chargois -- -18
Jordan Goldwire -- -25
Jalen Hill ---------- -33
Elijah Harkless --- -60
 
Re: Season Plus / Minus Updated post Auburn

I have never been a fan of this numbers system and my understanding is limited to say the least. But, if it’s even close to a legitimate measurement of a player’s performance, Harkless may need to be a permanent fixture on the bench!

Am I right, or can one of you EJ supporters make an argument in his favor? At first glance he played well in Stillwater where he had 15 points, 6 rebounds and 5 steals. Unfortunately, he cancelled a sizable portion of that performance with 8 turnovers. Are we at a point where he could be hurting the team more than he is helping?
 
Re: Season Plus / Minus Updated post osu

Game to game it can be fluky, but +/- will paint the picture if you give it sufficient parameters. Harkless has been bad, there's no way around that. Eight turnovers is inexcusable. It's no coincidence that our big road win in Morgantown came in a game where he only played four minutes.
 
Re: Season Plus / Minus Updated post osu

Game to game it can be fluky, but +/- will paint the picture if you give it sufficient parameters. Harkless has been bad, there's no way around that. Eight turnovers is inexcusable. It's no coincidence that our big road win in Morgantown came in a game where he only played four minutes.

Couldn’t agree more. Really wish Moser would have stuck with bringing him off the bench. It almost hurts us that he played well against TCU last week because I think that game is what got him back in the starting lineup. And the eight turnovers … I don’t know if I’ve ever seen that from a non-point guard.
 
Re: Season Plus / Minus

Full season +/-
post osu

Tanner Groves --- +155
Jalen Hill --------- +153
Jordan Goldwire - +137
Umoja Gibson --- +134
Elijah Harkless --- +84
Bijan Cortes ------ +32
Ethan Chargois --- +9
Marvin Johnson --- +8
Jacob Groves ----- -6
CJ Noland --------- -2
Akol Mawein ------ -7
Alston Mason ----- -13
Rick Issanza ------ -28

Conference only +/-

Marvin Johnson -- +8
Akol Mawein ----- +6
Umoja Gibson --- +2
Bijan Cortes ------ -3
Jacob Groves ----- -5
Alston Mason ----- -2
Tanner Groves --- -12
Rick Issanza ----- -12
CJ Noland -------- -18
Ethan Chargois -- -18
Jordan Goldwire -- -25
Jalen Hill ---------- -33
Elijah Harkless --- -60

When only one starter is a positive +/-, and 3 of the 5 starters are the worst on the team, it is easy to see why we have lost 7 of 8.

And to make matters worse, 3 of the worst 4 +/- in conference are 4th and 5th year players.
 
Re: Season Plus / Minus Updated post osu

Couldn’t agree more. Really wish Moser would have stuck with bringing him off the bench. It almost hurts us that he played well against TCU last week because I think that game is what got him back in the starting lineup. And the eight turnovers … I don’t know if I’ve ever seen that from a non-point guard.

I distinctly remember Buddy had a 10-turnover game in Stillwater. But his +/- was significantly higher than Elijah’s to say the least.
 
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