Why should OU bring Capel back next year?

[seniorsooner]

You guys just set standards that are unrealistic. I'm glad none of you guys run the OU program, we would be hiring a new coach every other year.

Yeah, not being okay with having the longest conference losing streak we've had in 80 years is a pretty high standard.

 

[IndySooner]

btw I don't consider this a huge slam on JC - there are MANY very good coaches who I don't believe are cut out to reform this program

I blame the three egos last year for the downfall of this program. TG more than TMG more than WW.

Unfortunately, Jeff got caught up in the web. Of course, he holds some of the blame, but I think it's more the overall symptom of the state of college basketball.

It's too bad, because I really like Coach Capel.

 

[luckyc1423]

You guys just set standards that are unrealistic. I'm glad none of you guys run the OU program, we would be hiring a new coach every other year.

Capel will be back and I can't wait til all you guys jump back on the Capel bandwagon. Next year is going to be a really good year. I knew this year wasn't going to be good but I know that next year will have us back to where we were.

LMAO, high standards huh...my standards have drastically reduced since hiring Caple...in the Sampson error my standard was to make the NCAA tourny each year...then as we completed that I hoped for a win or two in the tourny.

With Capel my stand went from making the NCAA tourny all the way down to just hoping for a winning season. Hoping for close losses instead of blow out losses...sorry if that seems high but I refuse to set my standard at a winning season.

 

[Sooner23]

This has been discussed a lot. I don't think he should be back but I think he will be back. The fact Jeff is a very nice guy, well spoken and a sharp person will help him get as much latitude as possible to right the ship. I don't think he can right the ship but he will be given a fair opportunity.

Boren is a very loyal person and he really likes Jeff and his wife.

This is why, IMO, he's going to be back. I think Castiglione made the commitment for him to rebuild (at least this is what the announcers said during the telecast Saturday) so I think he gets one more year.

I just hope Capel realizes that he needs to sign two impact guards in the last signing period. The current guards we have returning, even with Guerrero, aren't going to get it done for him next year. He needs to sign another impact combo/scoring guard type to go with Guerrero.

 

[Bk2X]

I blame the three egos last year for the downfall of this program. TG more than TMG more than WW.

Unfortunately, Jeff got caught up in the web. Of course, he holds some of the blame, but I think it's more the overall symptom of the state of college basketball.

It's too bad, because I really like Coach Capel.

That's the way I see it. On paper, he made some great strides leading into the elite 8 run then getting some top notch recruits. Obviously it ended miserably and this year is the result. I hate to put much weight on Osby and new recruits coming in because I think experience trumps freshmen but at this point it is all we can rely on. Honestly, I would like to see what he can do with next years class and pray we don't lose out on targets that he spends a lot of time chasing. I think we'd be worse off if we brought in a new guy after this year to try and fix it.

 

[thebigabd]

That's the way I see it. On paper, he made some great strides leading into the elite 8 run then getting some top notch recruits. Obviously it ended miserably and this year is the result. I hate to put much weight on Osby and new recruits coming in because I think experience trumps freshmen but at this point it is all we can rely on. Honestly, I would like to see what he can do with next years class and pray we don't lose out on targets that he spends a lot of time chasing. I think we'd be worse off if we brought in a new guy after this year to try and fix it.

* Under .500 in conference play since Capel arrived
* Losing record without Blake Griffin
* 9 straight conference losses (with games at Baylor and at Texas coming)
* 3 out of 5 years with no post-season at all
* Under Capel, OU loses by double digits every 3.6 games
* The worst seasons for OU basketball in decades
* OU will not be favored in any conference game this year, except perhaps Tech at home


You cant blame all that on 3 18 year olds... A couple of players dont wreck an entire program, coaches do.

 

[Sooner04]

You guys just set standards that are unrealistic. I'm glad none of you guys run the OU program, we would be hiring a new coach every other year.

We do?

Hell, before Capel arrived we'd never posted a losing record in Big 12 play. Our worst was 8-8 in 2004 when Sampson somehow manufactured wins out of a lineup featuring DeAngelo Alexander at center.

But now, under Capel, we've been under .500 in Big 12 play twice and it'll be a Festivus miracle if this year isn't our third losing conference slate.

 

[campbest]

You guys can make all the cases you want why he shouldn't be back, but he will be here in 2011-12.

 

[Sooner918]

The only thing Coach Capel is guilty of is finding success too quickly.

So now when he has one losing season, people want him fired. That doesn't make any sense to me.

 

[seniorsooner]

The only thing Coach Capel is guilty of is finding success too quickly.

So now when he has one losing season, people want him fired. That doesn't make any sense to me.

One losing season? Did last year not count? After we lose at Texas and at Baylor we will be on an 11 game conference losing streak, which is the worst we've experienced in 80 years. If that's not cause for grave concern, what is?

 

[NickZepp]

The only thing Coach Capel is guilty of is finding success too quickly.

So now when he has one losing season, people want him fired. That doesn't make any sense to me.

Do you really want to look at his stats? This isn't about one losing season. His record in Big 12 play is 32-33. He has won 60% of his games and that's with a 30 win season. To have a record this bad with a 30 win season is really hard at a school like Oklahoma. And please explain what exactly Capel's coaching philosophy is and what he wants his teams to do? You know what nobody can because he has no offensive or defensive philosophy.

 

[campbest]

The only thing Coach Capel is guilty of is finding success too quickly.

So now when he has one losing season, people want him fired. That doesn't make any sense to me.

This has to be a sarcastic post.

 

[stanley11]

Is it concerning to anyone that we keep hearing that Osby is the best player on the team, though he was only an average player on an average SEC team?

 

[Big Old Booger]

Is it concerning to anyone that we keep hearing that Osby is the best player on the team, though he was only an average player on an average SEC team?

This is just Capel trying to save his job by stating Osby is the program savior. It's very sad.

As far as I'm concerned, every OU basketball fan that complained, whined, and moaned about Kelvin Sampson is getting exactly what they deserve. Say what you want, he won games even with lesser lineups as sooner04 pointed out when he played DeAngelo Alexander at center in the 2004 season.

It's funny how some point out that both aTm and Baylor weren't very good when Sampson was coaching so now the conference is tougher. Well, at who's expense has aTm and Baylor improved? It's obvious it was at our expense. Baylor and aTm weren't good because Sampson kept them under his thumb and recruited some of the very same type of players they now get and beat us with. It reminds me of when John Blake supporters used to point out that K-State, KU, and OSU were much tougher when Blake coached and that was because they improved when OU went down. Why do you think KSU hasn't been very good since Stoops got it going? Same for KU and OSU and all of them beat Blake more than 1 time.

 

[DenverSooner]

If I was the coach I'd be so ashamed with what I have done, I'd resign.

No you wouldn't. Resigning will cost him millions. Now he might negotiate a severance and agree to leave but no rational person would simply resign with several years on a 1.5mm contract.

 

[DenverSooner]

You guys just set standards that are unrealistic. I'm glad none of you guys run the OU program, we would be hiring a new coach every other year.

Capel will be back and I can't wait til all you guys jump back on the Capel bandwagon. Next year is going to be a really good year. I knew this year wasn't going to be good but I know that next year will have us back to where we were.

The people that are saying Capel should resign are many of the same people that defended Sampson in the mid 90s when he had not won an NCAA game yet. I really don't think they have unreasonable expectations. Rather they simply have expectations and don't buy into the nonsense that every thing should be blamed on Sampson. Sampson is why virtually 100% of the Capel critics said nothing about his first season. They gave him a free pass because he lost that recruiting class. I can assure you I was not happy about the results in Capel's first year but I did not publicly say much of anything. I wanted it to work out for Capel.

 

[scrybe]

This is just Capel trying to save his job by stating Osby is the program savior. It's very sad.

It's Capel's diabolical mind at work again, booger. If he could get Joe C. or Boren or some other OU bigwig to agree with him, I guess you could turn this into a genuine conspiracy theory. Sad indeed.

 

[SoonerTraveler]

You guys just set standards that are unrealistic. I'm glad none of you guys run the OU program, we would be hiring a new coach every other year.

Why is it unrealistic. OU used to have coaches that won 20 games virtually EVERY year. In fact, some posters used to discount that accomplishment, since "what is so hard about winning 20 games?"

Should a guy be paid more than $100,000 per win? Or more than $250,000 per conference win?

 

[Sid]

Should a guy be paid more than $100,000 per win? Or more than $250,000 per conference win?

I don't think so. As a loyal sooner fan paying for Jeff's salary what do you think about that?

 

[DenverSooner]

The only thing Coach Capel is guilty of is finding success too quickly.

So now when he has one losing season, people want him fired. That doesn't make any sense to me.

Really? Tubbs took OU to the NIT championship his second season and to the great 8 by his 4th. Season. He succeeded pretty quickly.

Sampson won National Coach of the Year his first season and took OU to the NCAA his first year.

How is Capel substantially different? He went to the great 8 one year earlier than Tubbs. Thedifference is Capel came to OU when the program was established as a top 20 college basketball program not that he succeeded to fast.

Just explain his system to me. If one freaking Capel supporter could explain what he is trying to do, I might be able to actually believe in the guy. Every year Capel's team is not that good at defense.

In 2007 OU was 17th at defense. 2008 OU was 32nd. 2009 OU was 36th. 2010 OU was 171. This year (and it is going to get worse) OU is 133. There is a trend in those numbers just in case you have missed it, that trend is that OU played good defense before Capel got to OU and it has slowly deteriorated each and every season. With that said, it will be a challenge for Capel to do worse than last year but I do have faith in him when it comes to this particular issue.