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Oliver Hardy said:
Well, Syb, Cat, etc. I’m excited to read your thoughts.

You don’t make decisions on a single game outcome, but you can no longer ignore the failures of the players AND, most importantly, the coaches.

Sherri is not going to change, and I don’t know if she should.

She isn’t going to fire her son or her best friend in life who is a cancer survivor. She can’t bench this entire team this year or next. That leaves Pam and Chad as the scapegoats.

Ditching Pam would seem to be counterproductive. She has gotten the maximum out Simpson that can probably be gotten.

Besides getting better players (which you can only do if you are a winning program) what would all of you sunshine pumpers do?



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I consider 98% of this to be gibberish. A good number of people have been looking forward to the first opportunity they have to criticize Sherri, and I could care less about their opinions.

I am concerned in that I don't see any indications of a cohesion yet. Of course, we were without one of our two returning starters, and the one that we had is regressed. That is frustrating. But, it was also a concern before the year began. Shaina had never played like a point guard or as a part of a team unit, even in HS and all-star play. She has tremendous ability. But, she will limit herself if she doesn't learn to play as a part of something rather than his own streetball game. Nobody has any use for that. We have had two different freshmen points because we didn't have a soph point.

Ana showed today what she can do. This team desperately needs a leader. There is no senior leader, and Shaina has rejected being a part of a team system. It has to be Ana, and she, more-or-less, just got here. I think Sherri has tried to make Madi, Mandy, and Tatum into leaders since she had none. It wasn't something that Madi had done, and I don't think Mandy is a starter. A nice workman reserve. I had thought that our starters next year would probably be Scott, Madi, Ana, and Tatum. The fifth might be Shaina if she gets it through her head to work as a part of a unit, Gabby, or Chloe. I really thought Murcer and Taylor would be gunners off the bench. But, they needed a little height to take the pressure off of them, at 5-7. We don't have all of these pieces this year.

I'm waiting to see if the attributes that will allow them to be a part of the gameplan next year will develop. Can Shaina be a part of a team? Can Mandy just go to the boards? We really need for Shaina to get her act together. I have confidence that Madi will be just fine when she gets someone around her. She seems to be trying to change her game on the fly. Putting up three pointers. I don't expect Jessi and Taylor to be superstars, just good scorers and threats off the bench. Hated being limited to nobody useful on the bench.

I'm not sure what to think of Sherri right now. I didn't expect her to let the cohesion slide. Wonder how much of it is what. I don't buy into the idea that she can't coach at all. I keep seeing statements that the players love her, and I think she knows more than this entire board assembled. I don't know that I agree with how she has handled this group this year. A part of it is necessitated since a bad couple of years with coupled with losing both recruits of what was a good year kind of left the cupboard bare. It happens.. Look around folks. Tennessee has lost four in a row for the first time in 35 years. North Carolina has had three losing seasons in a row---Sylvia Hatchell.

I will feel better if I see something begin to develop, especially enough to challenge Texas in Norman. I'd like to sweep TCU, Kansas, and/or Tech. Never thought we'd beat Iowa State. They are something like #3 in the rpi last I looked. Killing people.

I don't think Sherri is under any threat. If next year's class doesn't result in improvement, she might be. I think Joe C has bigger fish to fry. I don't know if the new president feels that way. Not impressed by him.

May as well quit crying. I don't think you have anyone's ear.
 
And this is the same team that played U-conn close????? I felt sorry for Brian Brinkley on the radio...He was trying real hard to find something good to say about this game. ANA is ONE good girl that did show up today!!! But to give Shania 8 minutes???? I just don't get it??? Sheri said on her TV show, that she gave the girls two days off.....Weeeeell.....You might have wanted to practice more??? you think?????
 
Oliver Hardy said:
Well, Syb, Cat, etc. I’m excited to read your thoughts.

You don’t make decisions on a single game outcome, but you can no longer ignore the failures of the players AND, most importantly, the coaches.

Sherri is not going to change, and I don’t know if she should.

She isn’t going to fire her son or her best friend in life who is a cancer survivor. She can’t bench this entire team this year or next. That leaves Pam and Chad as the scapegoats.

Ditching Pam would seem to be counterproductive. She has gotten the maximum out Simpson that can probably be gotten.

Besides getting better players (which you can only do if you are a winning program) what would all of you sunshine pumpers do?



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You aren't going to hear from Syb because he's in his little bubble and refuses to acknowledge opinions that differ from his. It's hard to believe he is a professor, if that is true, since he is so close minded.
 
Just another classic example of what SC is as a coach. Burned-out, lazy and clueless....maybe at one point she was a breath of fresh air and had ambition to succeed and her players bought into it and produced results, but not anymore, obviously. This team is a reflection of poor coaching, nothing more. They look completely lost on the floor. Even fans of other programs are showing empathy at this point. If we do not win 10 games I think she's gone. I can almost guarantee you Shaina transfers after this season unless she starts getting more playing time and I wouldn't be surprised if our All-American did as well. That happens and then we start all over from scratch again and we'll have the same excuses like we do this year in saying how much losing Mulkey and Dungee hurt us for this year... I bet those two girls are so incredibly happy they left this sinking ship of the program right about now.

This is just all really hard to watch as a fan. Very sad season when you can't even look forward to games anymore.
 
Thank you Syb for your reply. That you start it out as a personal attack is no surprise to me or anyone else here.

My opinion is just as valuable as yours, BTW.

I understand that it t must be extremely hard for you to come to grips with this season. It requires you to pucker up your lips on Sherri’s behind more than ever before.

I plan on reviewing your comment periodically for the remainder of this year and next as this program’s future unfolds.

I look forward to reading your thoughts and to your continually verifying to this board what type of person you are.

Talk to you soon.






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Let me had one thought, Syb, upon rereading your reply.

You attack me then basically get around to saying my opinion may end up being correct.

I suppose I should say “Thank You.” I bet those are two words most people never use when talking to you.


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Oliver Hardy said:
Thank you Syb for your reply. That you start it out as a personal attack is no surprise to me or anyone else here.

My opinion is just as valuable as yours, BTW.

I understand that it t must be extremely hard for you to come to grips with this season. It requires you to pucker up your lips on Sherri’s behind more than ever before.

I plan on reviewing your comment periodically for the remainder of this year and next as this program’s future unfolds.

I look forward to reading your thoughts and to your continually verifying to this board what type of person you are.

Talk to you soon.






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Now, that's just plain funny. You think that was a personal attack when it didn't mention anyone by name?

Of course, this comes after a year in which you have a couple of others have done nothing except to attack Sherri by name. Meanwhile, you begin at least half of your posts with, "syb, ....." At least, I have become infamous, if not famous, by being the subject of the obsessions of so many.

But, you just keep on thinking that this comes down to your opinion, or mine. At least, I have just enough smarts to know that a Hall of Fame coach who has the respect of so many of her peers, as well as the undying irritation of Kim Mulkey, probably knows a lot more about basketball than I do.
 
Who transfers, if any at season's end? I think Pellington, Williams and Williston are all possible with Shaina the most likely to go.
 
I post seldom on the Woman’s Board, but I do want to add something here. Dick Vitale said many years ago that some coaches become a “victim of their own success”. He was specifically referring to former Georgia Tech coach Bobby Cremins at the time. He built the GT program up from scratch. Two others who won titles (Cremins did not) that fall into a similar category are Nolan Richardson (Arkansas) and Gary Williams (Maryland). All three are examples of great coaches who did an amazing job to accomplish what they did, but for whatever reason could not maintain that high level for several years on end - likely because none of them coached at blue-blood programs. It may be time to accept the strong possibility that Sherri Coale falls into this same category.

I understand there are a few elite coaches who can build their own blue blood program from scratch...but no shame that Sherri is not quite in that category.
 
Syb, my career has been in writing and related fields. I’m fairly confident of my knowledge of what words mean, what is actually written and what is implied.

One day we may meet and we can discuss the meaning of words, implied and inferred over a beer.


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Good point Wayman. That has held true in football and basketball most.


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This is absolutely embarrassing. It's games (and seasons) like this that me feel ashamed to be an OU alum. Sherri's strong will and decision making is costing her student athletes and fans some success. ISU is good, but there's no reason for this type of performance. There's a 0% chance this team makes the NCAA tourney or any other tourney for that matter. What a disgrace.

Regardless of whatever point Sherri thinks she is making by playing Shaina such limited minutes will come back to bite her. That isn't coaching.
 
Oliver Hardy said:
When you are in Sherri’s dog house it is almost impossible to get out.

Pellington is still out of control, still much of the time and she’s been a one-note player.

However, who else besides Taylor R. Can make things happen for us?

But since Sherri can’t get her to adapt to her style of play she wants (and when she does it completely takes her out of the game), perhaps a departure would be best for Pellington.

It is a complete indictment of Sherri, however, that she can not adapt her style of play and coaching to adequately use the strengths of one of her best players.

But we see Sherri can’t/won’t do that for Robertson either.

Frankly, if I were Pellington, I’d hit the silk.
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This has to be the dumbest post ever made. You just watched a game in which Ana scored 35 points, tied for the most by ANY Big-12 player THIS YEAR. And she has been our best player in every game this semester.

But at least you and SC are in 100% agreement about your evaluation of her skill set. She was not even deserving of starting today. Ridiculous and unforgivable.

Here is what most of you have not been willing to understand or accept. SC is plagued with much of the same problem that ruined the last few years for Darrel Royal at Texas. A bias toward white players. Go back and look at the tapes you have saved this year. SC almost refuses to put more minority players on the court together than white players. In the last home game she had at least three slow white kids on the floor for all but about 4 minutes of the game. She could not start Ana today because she was driven to put 4 slow white kids on the floor to start. Do I need to mention that did not work out so well?

In addition, we have watched for years the start of games where the players have been totally unprepared for the opponent. After a quarter or two they figure things out for themselves and come to grasp how to play this opponent. Instead of playing for fun against a team of slow white boys, they need to spend much of practice working on fundamentals and actual movements that will work against the upcoming opponent's key plays and strengths.

I expect it is part of the same bias that makes her schedule almost 100% male coaches in the non-conference. Year after year.

Then you add to that her absolute refusal to play a reasonable number of home games in the early season and you have placed your kids at a huge disadvantage to comparable teams. Since so many of you appear to be mathematically challenged, in a while I will demonstrate the nature of that foolishness on SC's part.
 
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I agree with you that Llusana should be starting. I also agree that Pellington should be starting.

I believe both should have started today.

You will see at the top of this thread that I immediately questioned why Llusana and Pellington weren’t starting.

I believe their skill sets are the best overall on the team.

I have heard all those rumors too, as I am sure many have, but until someone provides hard facts, I will make no comments on that subject.


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I agree with the above posts when it comes to SC. I don't agree that white girls are slower in general than other players. Look at Iowa State and Kansas State. The majority of both their rosters are white and they are successful against teams that are not. I don't think race really matters. I think Sherry recruits a certain type of prissy players and refuses to go after players that can actually play. She's stubborn and it's biting her in the rear end! And shame on her for not going after players with more height to replace VV! What does she expect starting her tallest player at six foot against all these other taller players in the Big 12? Does she actually expect success? She doesn't have the type of players that Connecticut has. to be honest, I wouldn't mind these girls losing every single game the rest of the season just to prove this coach has got to go. I hope they don't, but I think if they do it would hopefully be a reflection of this horrible staff.
 
Sweetest OU Girl said:
This has to be the dumbest post ever made. You just watched a game in which Ana scored 35 points, tied for the most by ANY Big-12 player THIS YEAR. And she has been our best player in every game this semester.

But at least you and SC are in 100% agreement about your evaluation of her skill set. She was not even deserving of starting today. Ridiculous and unforgivable.

Here is what most of you have not been willing to understand or accept. SC is plagued with much of the same problem that ruined the last few years for Darrel Royal at Texas. A bias toward white players. Go back and look at the tapes you have saved this year. SC almost refuses to put more minority players on the court together than white players. In the last home game she had at least three slow white kids on the floor for all but about 4 minutes of the game. She could not start Ana today because she was driven to put 4 slow white kids on the floor to start. Do I need to mention that did not work out so well?

In addition, we have watched for years the start of games where the players have been totally unprepared for the opponent. After a quarter or two they figure things out for themselves and come to grasp how to play this opponent. Instead of playing for fun against a team of slow white boys, they need to spend much of practice working on fundamentals and actual movements that will work against the upcoming opponent's key plays and strengths.

I expect it is part of the same bias that makes her schedule almost 100% male coaches in the non-conference. Year after year.

Then you add to that her absolute refusal to play a reasonable number of home games in the early season and you have placed your kids at a huge disadvantage to comparable teams. Since so many of you appear to be mathematically challenged, in a while I will demonstrate the nature of that foolishness on SC's part.
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I haven't watched the womens team much the last 5 years because frankly, they lost me as a fan. So many turnovers and just really poor play overall. However, I can say with certainty Sherri doesn't start players based on skin color. That entire thought is absurd. If a player of color is the better player then they aren't doing something right off the court or in practice.
 
It has been noted in this thread that Shania is not a team-oriented player. I have observed that that she specializes in street ball, is not inclined to share, and thinking she is Supergirl on hardwood, she penetrates until she gets into trouble and then turns it over.

My theory is that Sherri had a talk with Shania and told her that she needs to play team ball (because that is the way OU plays) and if she can't bring herself to do that, she will find her butt placed on the bench. If I were Sherri I would do the same thing. On the other hand, if I were Sherri I would start Ana for sure. Perhaps Sherri feels a need to have a big spark held on the bench, then inserted to gain a shift in momentum. A big spark. Every team needs one. I am not down on Sherri or the team. When I saw we were going to start freshmen and a smattering of sops - in the Big XII, excuse me? I knew we would be in for a long and sad season. However, if this team is not playing better in a month from now I will be more disappointed.
 
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