Big 12 Tournament Discussion Thread

[BCSooners]

I will concede that for the most part, OU is a bad example in terms of scheduling. They played a good schedule.



Hogwash.... OSU started 0-9 or something in the league. Kansas State sucks.. Iowa State sucks. They get a pretty good dose of unsavory teams.



I don't know how prevalent this is in basketball, but a lot of times the bigger schools hold so much sway when scheduling. Will high majors regularly agree to go on the road and play good mid-majors? Does LA Tech schedule weaker teams to pad wins, or because its difficult to get other schools to agree to play them regularly?

I wonder if home-and-away contracts could be designed for this? Unfortunately, that would result in playing the same team twice. For example, OU agrees to games (in a single season) with Northern Iowa. They play them at home, and then some other time in the season play them in Iowa.

The reason I bring that up, is I don't know its necessarily a fair metric that Texas Tech gets to play all their league games at home to prove their worth, but Northern Iowa likely only has a chance to go to Lubbock to prove their worth.



Subjective... A lot of times "the better team" is simply being gauged by who they played, not even really who they beat. That's why everyone keeps including SOS, because Tech played the #1 team 4-5 times this year. They didn't win them, but it pads the stat. If Richmond played in the Big 12 this year, would they go 0-18? Or would they be competitive and have chances at good wins like Tech, OU, etc had?

The same OSU team that beat Houston, Ole Miss by 41, & finished 7-11 in conference. ISU had their lottery pick, beat ranked Seton Hall, lost to Auburn by 4. KSU beat Tulsa who apparently wouldn’t lose as many games as Tech in the Big12. Those teams aren’t good but they aren’t cake games.

The better team has more good wins & less bad losses.

 

[skyvue]

I will concede that for the most part, OU is a bad example in terms of scheduling. They played a good schedule.

And they play one year in and year out.

Hogwash.... OSU started 0-9 or something in the league. Kansas State sucks.. Iowa State sucks. They get a pretty good dose of unsavory teams.

Just under two-thirds of Richmond's opponents are currently ranked lower than ISU, KSU and oswho in the NET rankings, meaning they are outside the top 100--many of them waaaay outside it.

In games against the NET's top 100, Richmond went 6-5. Their win over Wisconsin was their only really impressive one. The others were against the following -- Rhode island (57), VCU (65), Davidson (73, twice) and Duquesne (94) -- teams which, by their NET rankings, qualify for the same denigration to which you subjected oswho (61), ISU (98) and KSU (98).

 

[152219]

OSU is now on the Bubble Watch page.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-b...ubble-watch-updated-look-wildest-bubble-years

 

[BoulderSooner]

OSU is now on the Bubble Watch page.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-b...ubble-watch-updated-look-wildest-bubble-years

if they win their next 2 they have a good shot of getting in

 

[sheepdogs1]

OSU is now on the Bubble Watch page.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-b...ubble-watch-updated-look-wildest-bubble-years

From rags to riches.

 

[Swans]

i don't think the zags would want anything to do with that ..

And a lot of majors wouldn’t want anything to do with playing another major in the first/early rounds. Of course the Zags have been a regular in the final four of late so......ooops never mind.

 

[TINY]

I would add that Big 12 teams should adjust their schedules as well... If you are asking mid-majors to adjust theirs.

OU should play Tulsa, Wichita State, Colorado State, Richmond, Northern Iowa, New Mexico instead of Maryland Eastern Shore, William & Mary, UTSA, UTRGV, etc. They won't do that because they know they will lose more games. Plain and simple.

We saw what happened this year when OU scheduled legitimate mid-majors. Crazy risk. Lost to Wichita State, beat UCF by 1, beat North Texas by 2. Props for scheduling them and beating them, but they won't want to play more teams like that in one season. If they did, they would have more losses and be exposed. Just like Texas Tech would.

What an awful take, Man. Ou is not the team u should be chastising about non con scheduling. We play a hard non con schedule every year. We would have waxed Tulsa like we have for about the last 20 times we have played them, too. Also how are you going to predict which sorry small program is going to have a good team that year so u can schedule them?

 

[MsProudSooner]

OSU got away with a blatant foul under the ISU basket with less than 30 seconds left and goes on to win by 1 point.

 

[mict085]

Iowa state got screwed down the stretch by that Higgins asshole. Totally ridiculous.

 

[sheepdogs1]

Exciting and close fought game as OSU squeaks out a win over ISU. Keeps their tourney bid alive.

 

[MrAnderson]

Wednesday lines:

OSU -5 over ISU
TCU -1.5 over K-STATE

I'd take the favorite in both games I think.

Glad I didnt. Would have lost both.

 

[mict085]

Is the tourney wed-sat? No days off?

 

[BoulderSooner]

Is the tourney wed-sat? No days off?

yes

 

[Soonermarty]

Big 12 in the process of cancelling the tournament per Jon Rothstein on twitter

 

[Soonerinkc]

Shut down along with 5 other conf