March Madness and Covid-19

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WaymanFan said:
I guess if we ever want to unite the board, all we have to do is mention Howard Schnellenburger and John Blake...not much disagreement with those two as the subject :-).

As for Covid, somehow the state of North Carolina actually got worse since I voiced my frustrations a few days back. At that time, there were 4 states who seemed to be doing a worse job of keeping this pandemic in check. Now, all we call do is thumb our noses at Florida and Arizona. We may be just days away from making wearing a mask in public MANDATORY. While not something I want to hear, I can’t blame the governor for trying to be proactive in coming up with ideas. Self-management has clearly failed here.
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I was just looking over the numbers. Florida reported it's highly daily total of new Covid-19 cases today. 3,207.

13 University of Texas football players have tested positive for the virus.

I'm still waiting on Oklahoma's numbers to be released today. That usually happens around 11.
 
Per RT-Live, the virus is spreading faster in Oklahoma than any other state in the Union. 1.10 and on the rise.

I wish our Governor had the well-being of his constituency in mind as opposed to pandering to the President. This rally should be canceled.
 
Sooner04 said:
Per RT-Live, the virus is spreading faster in Oklahoma than any other state in the Union. 1.10 and on the rise.

I wish our Governor had the well-being of his constituency in mind as opposed to pandering to the President. This rally should be canceled.
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I agree. It should be cancelled.
But I don't think it is as bad in Oklahoma as the Rt number says
 
Dallas officials said this morning that, barring any new local, state, or federal orders.....that the Texas State Fair will be open as scheduled in late September.

Fried COVID anyone?;)
 
Sooner04 said:
Per RT-Live, the virus is spreading faster in Oklahoma than any other state in the Union. 1.10 and on the rise.

I wish our Governor had the well-being of his constituency in mind as opposed to pandering to the President. This rally should be canceled.
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There was talk that the Trump camp was looking for a suitable outdoor venue, I hope that they maybe move it to Driller's stadium or a place like that.
 
[TWEET]https://twitter.com/TexasTribune/status/1273639246902038533?s=20[/TWEET]

Texas hospitalizations... wow. They've hit a record 7 days in a row. I really don't know if this is sustainable for much longer without them taking action.
 
Very concerning. Hoping Oklahoma doesn't follow suite. I'm not sure how high it would have to get for Texas to be worried about hospital beds.

For example, Oklahoma has plenty of beds right now and on a per capita analysis, we have half the hospitalizations as texas. If Oklahoma doubled right now, I still think we wouldn't be close to capacity
 
steverocks35 said:
[TWEET]https://twitter.com/TexasTribune/status/1273639246902038533?s=20[/TWEET]

Texas hospitalizations... wow. They've hit a record 7 days in a row. I really don't know if this is sustainable for much longer without them taking action.
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There is no action to take.... You know I was a proponent of the shut-down, but I don't see ANY way they will do it again. It's too close to an election, and shutting down put the economy on the brink.

I hate that our economy/culture/society is so fragile that not buying/selling things at normal levels can put the entire system on its knees in 40-50 days, but that is the reality of our world. Historically and academically, I find that fascinating, but unfortunately we live in that world today and there is no option here. If people don't work, and/or people don't go out and buy/sell things, the country can fold up into a serious depression in 2 months. That's what we are dealing with here.

Do you disagree? I just don't think they can shut down again.
 
thebigabd said:
There is no action to take.... You know I was a proponent of the shut-down, but I don't see ANY way they will do it again. It's too close to an election, and shutting down put the economy on the brink.

I hate that our economy/culture/society is so fragile that not buying/selling things at normal levels can put the entire system on its knees in 40-50 days, but that is the reality of our world. Historically, I find that fascinating, but unfortunately we live in that world today and there is no option here.

Do you disagree? I just don't think they can shut down again.
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What do they do if (when?) the ICU beds are all full and they have refrigerated trucks at the hospital to store the morgue overflow? That's what we saw in New York, across Italy, New Orleans, Manchester and many other places. I don't have the easy answers but they better think of something fast.
 
SoonerBounce13 said:
Very concerning. Hoping Oklahoma doesn't follow suite. I'm not sure how high it would have to get for Texas to be worried about hospital beds.

For example, Oklahoma has plenty of beds right now and on a per capita analysis, we have half the hospitalizations as texas. If Oklahoma doubled right now, I still think we wouldn't be close to capacity
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Were the people in the hot spot in the panhandle treated there or did they have to transport them to bigger towns?
 
steverocks35 said:
[TWEET]https://twitter.com/TexasTribune/status/1273639246902038533?s=20[/TWEET]

Texas hospitalizations... wow. They've hit a record 7 days in a row. I really don't know if this is sustainable for much longer without them taking action.
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From an ICU bed standpoint, Texas will be able to manage the more serious/critical patients with room to spare.....according to projections:
https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/texas

At this point, I'm resigned to the fact that we are going to let this burn through the population. I'm hoping that more effective treatments are readily available by the fall because a viable vaccine by that point doesn't seem to be realistic. Social-distancing, mask-wearing, and isolating (if infected) have shown to slow the spread, but these precautions are in no way going to stop the spread. I think it's inevitable that most people are going to get this. It is in no way a death sentence and being infected needs to be put into proper context. Having said that, people in the higher risk groups need to continue to be hyper-vigilant in their attempts to not get exposed.
 
stormspencer said:
From an ICU bed standpoint, Texas will be able to manage the more serious/critical patients with room to spare.....according to projections:
https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/texas

At this point, I'm resigned to the fact that we are going to let this burn through the population. I'm hoping that more effective treatments are readily available by the fall because a viable vaccine by that point doesn't seem to be realistic. Social-distancing, mask-wearing, and isolating (if infected) have shown to slow the spread, but these precautions are in no way going to stop the spread. I think it's inevitable that most people are going to get this. It is in no way a death sentence and being infected needs to be put into proper context. Having said that, people in the higher risk groups need to continue to be hyper-vigilant in their attempts to not get exposed.
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The projections don't look like that graph up there of reality. I am having a hard time deciding if those projections have factored in the re-opening. I could totally be wrong.
 
stormspencer said:
From an ICU bed standpoint, Texas will be able to manage the more serious/critical patients with room to spare.....according to projections:
https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/texas

At this point, I'm resigned to the fact that we are going to let this burn through the population. I'm hoping that more effective treatments are readily available by the fall because a viable vaccine by that point doesn't seem to be realistic. Social-distancing, mask-wearing, and isolating (if infected) have shown to slow the spread, but these precautions are in no way going to stop the spread. I think it's inevitable that most people are going to get this. It is in no way a death sentence and being infected needs to be put into proper context. Having said that, people in the higher risk groups need to continue to be hyper-vigilant in their attempts to not get exposed.
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I think I see the problem, those projections haven't been updated since June 15th and a lot of the data stops on June 3rd, and it looks like the hospital bed data is nothing but projections, there's no hard data? Am I looking a that correctly? If you look at "Hospital resource use" the data is all projections. It's kind of strange.
 
steverocks35 said:
I think I see the problem, those projections haven't been updated since June 15th and a lot of the data stops on June 3rd, and it looks like the hospital bed data is nothing but projections, there's no hard data? Am I looking a that correctly? If you look at "Hospital resource use" the data is all projections. It's kind of strange.
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I've made it clear on this thread that I'm not a big fan of models or projections. There are simply too many unknowns and wild variables that can't be incorporated. But for context regarding raw numbers, DFW has roughly 6.5 million people and as of yesterday, 565 COVID deaths. And it's estimated anywhere between 40-50% of those deaths occurred in nursing home or long term care facilities. That is why I maintain that older folks and chronically sick folks need to be hyper-vigilant in their precautionary behavior.

IMHO, the bigger issue for hospitals is how much space/resources do they allocate for potential COVID in-patients while still providing resources in an attempt to generate revenue through elective surgeries and other services. I can't tell you how many stories that have been relayed back to me from our installation teams here locally regarding how "empty" hospitals are right now. It isn't uncommon for them to actually go in and complete their work without ever seeing a patient anywhere (rooms, transport, etc.).
 
"In the greater Houston area, 19% of all intensive care beds are occupied by COVID-19 patients, according to data gathered by the Texas Medical Center. It posted an early warning that the current increase in cases could exceed intensive care units' capacity in two weeks."

The issue is ICU bed capacity, and that is starting to be a big concern.

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/06/18/texas-coronavirus-hospitalizations/?utm_campaign=trib-social&utm_content=1592493944&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
 
It's curious to me that Oklahoma has not released its numbers yet. I wonder what is going on.
 
steverocks35 said:
It's curious to me that Oklahoma has not released its numbers yet. I wonder what is going on.
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seems pretty suspicious. they claim it is a technological issue.
MOre than likely they are trying to figure out the best way to spin the numbers
 
steverocks35 said:
"In the greater Houston area, 19% of all intensive care beds are occupied by COVID-19 patients, according to data gathered by the Texas Medical Center. It posted an early warning that the current increase in cases could exceed intensive care units' capacity in two weeks."

The issue is ICU bed capacity, and that is starting to be a big concern.

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/06/18/texas-coronavirus-hospitalizations/?utm_campaign=trib-social&utm_content=1592493944&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
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Unlike DFW (which is fairly spread out geographically), Houston is incredibly congested....for a Texas city. Just ask anyone who has worked or driven there. If there was ever going to be an issue with a COVID hotspot in Texas, my guess is it would be Houston. However, in no way does it compare to the congestion offered up in NYC....or maybe even New Orleans. So I don't believe you will see anything even remotely close to those places.

Adding to that, I would also venture to say that public health/healthy lifestyles are not exactly promoted there either. It's probably the Mexican food capital of America. And they certainly eat their share of chicken fried steaks and other fried foods as well. I would theorize that Houston is one of the unhealthiest cities in America. And if obesity abounds along with other risk factors, it could certainly lead to more than their fair share of COVID deaths if infections really spike.
 
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