March Madness and Covid-19

[thebigabd]

93% from age 55 and older. Very telling. And I agree with you.

While all information is helpful, you then have to decide what to do with it.... Do we tell people age 55 and older to quarantine for 1-2 months? Do we tell people age 55 and older to not interact with any friends, families, co-workers, etc for 1-2 months? Do we tell ALL people age 55 and older that they can't work?

There are 40 million workers over the age of 55 in the labor force in the United States. That is a very large number in the workforce.

Your thoughts, WTsooner? You posted the stat of 93% in that age group. What would be your recommendation?

Young people clearly don't care about infecting them. So what is the solution?

 

[steverocks35]

Sounds like more golf outings with Steverocks35.

Does anybody ever know what you’re talking about?

 

[sheepdogs1]

While all information is helpful, you then have to decide what to do with it.... Do we tell people age 55 and older to quarantine for 1-2 months? Do we tell people age 55 and older to not interact with any friends, families, co-workers, etc for 1-2 months? Do we tell ALL people age 55 and older that they can't work?

There are 40 million workers over the age of 55 in the labor force in the United States. That is a very large number in the workforce.

Your thoughts, WTsooner? You posted the stat of 93% in that age group. What would be your recommendation?

Young people clearly don't care about infecting them. So what is the solution?

Have there been people on this board who have made the assertion that all people should be following just what you stated? Yes, there have.

 

[thebigabd]

Sounds like more golf outings with Steverocks35.

I'll play golf with Steve.

 

[coolm]

well, even if you can't trust a CEO the source is still better than a UK tabloid story so I can't say crap there. I did watch the Houston mayor in an interview last night and he's ready to do whatever needs to be done to get his numbers down. He agreed with Abbott on shutting down the open up or at least curtailing it. The mayors are hamstrung because of the bill the Tx legislature passed.

masks need to be worn. a mask isn't a political statement, it's an IQ test.

 

[Eielson]

Sure but it’s as if everyone thinks, “oh we have enough ventilators, it’s all good.”

It doesn't cure COVID, but it's clearly one of the biggest bottlenecks in terms of hospital capacity. Perhaps even #1.

 

[stormspencer]

While all information is helpful, you then have to decide what to do with it.... Do we tell people age 55 and older to quarantine for 1-2 months? Do we tell people age 55 and older to not interact with any friends, families, co-workers, etc for 1-2 months? Do we tell ALL people age 55 and older that they can't work?

There are 40 million workers over the age of 55 in the labor force in the United States. That is a very large number in the workforce.

Your thoughts, WTsooner? You posted the stat of 93% in that age group. What would be your recommendation?

Young people clearly don't care about infecting them. So what is the solution?

While it would be painful and wildly unpopular....the answer to your first question is yes....at least to some degree. I don't think the threshold is 55 years old necessarily, but if you are 65 or over, you need to be semi-quarantining anyway. I don't think it needs to mandated by ordinance, but people of this age group only need to expose themselves to others for the most essential of needs (drug store, groceries, etc.). It sucks to think it has come to this as I am a fervent defender of liberty and freedom, but this is the world we live in right now. But it's only short term and this too shall pass.

And yes, a decent-sized segment of people under 35 need to get their sh!t together and chill out on the bars and mass socializing.

 

[Eielson]

so he's in charge of the Texas Medical Center?

Did Bill McKeon say something to contradict the quote you're replying to?

 

[coolm]

Did Bill McKeon say something to contradict the quote you're replying to?

can't you just answer the question?

 

[Eielson]

can't you just answer the question?

No, the Houston Methodist CEO is not the TMC CEO -- he is Houston Methodist CEO. The TMC CEO is the TMC CEO.

I didn't think that needed to be stated.

 

[thebigabd]

While it would be painful and wildly unpopular....the answer to your first question is yes....at least to some degree. I don't think the threshold is 55 years old necessarily, but if you are 65 or over, you need to be semi-quarantining anyway. I don't think it needs to mandated by ordinance, but people of this age group only need to expose themselves to others for the most essential of needs (drug store, groceries, etc.). It sucks to think it has come to this as I am a fervent defender of liberty and freedom, but this is the world we live in right now. But it's only short term and this too shall pass.

And yes, a decent-sized segment of people under 35 need to get their sh!t together and chill out on the bars and mass socializing.

What is the economic impact of 40 million people leaving the workforce for 2 months?

 

[Eielson]

What is the economic impact of 40 million people leaving the workforce for 2 months?

Certainly less than all age groups leaving the workforce.

 

[coolm]

No, the Houston Methodist CEO is not the TMC CEO -- he is Houston Methodist CEO. The TMC CEO is the TMC CEO.

I didn't think that needed to be stated.

I dont know their structure. when we fought the kaiser case against Integris the management for Baptist took charge over that for SW for discovery purposes and I dont know if some corp owns both. I just want to find out where the Houston mayor gets his numbers.

Oklahoma state fair is cancelled.

 

[thebigabd]

Certainly less than all age groups leaving the workforce.

Then i guess the next question is.... lets say they leave the workforce for 2 months. Young people continue not to care, and keep spreading it around to each other for that 2 month period.

Doesn't sound like the 55+ crowd will be able to come out in that scenario either. Seems like we just delayed it two months.

Which basically means there are no good options without a treatment or a cure. You protect the 55+ crowd from death, but if you don't have a cure or valid treatment they still can't come out.

So then what? They self-quarantine for another year while we wait for a vaccine?

 

[coolm]

Certainly less than all age groups leaving the workforce.

I dont have a problem if they do it by ages and institute better guidance (like that OVAP proposal). we just need some f'king guidance period. Stitt will do anything trump suggests and the orange idiot is completely avoiding doing anything ... despite the need.

sometimes ANY plan is better than doing nothing.

 

[Eielson]

Then i guess the next question is.... lets say they leave the workforce for 2 months. Young people continue not to care, and keep spreading it around to each other for that 2 month period.

Doesn't sound like the 55+ crowd will be able to come out in that scenario either. Seems like we just delayed it two months.

Which basically means there are no good options without a treatment or a cure. You protect the 55+ crowd from death, but if you don't have a cure or valid treatment they still can't come out.

So then what? They self-quarantine for another year while we wait for a vaccine?

I don't understand the point you are trying to make. Are you claiming if 55+ can't work for a year, then nobody should work for a year?

 

[sheepdogs1]

Then i guess the next question is.... lets say they leave the workforce for 2 months. Young people continue not to care, and keep spreading it around to each other for that 2 month period.

Doesn't sound like the 55+ crowd will be able to come out in that scenario either. Seems like we just delayed it two months.

Which basically means there are no good options without a treatment or a cure. You protect the 55+ crowd from death, but if you don't have a cure or valid treatment they still can't come out.

So then what? They self-quarantine for another year while we wait for a vaccine?

What strategy do you believe coalesces with liberalism? Is it where all groups act one in the same manner or just certain age groups.

 

[thebigabd]

I don't understand the point you are trying to make. Are you claiming if 55+ can't work for a year, then nobody should work for a year?

No not at all... I am not leading to a point, just having a discussion.

 

[sheepdogs1]

No not at all... I am not leading to a point, just having a discussion.

If you request others to make a point then perhaps you should do the same and join in.

 

[stormspencer]

Then i guess the next question is.... lets say they leave the workforce for 2 months. Young people continue not to care, and keep spreading it around to each other for that 2 month period.

Doesn't sound like the 55+ crowd will be able to come out in that scenario either. Seems like we just delayed it two months.

Which basically means there are no good options without a treatment or a cure. You protect the 55+ crowd from death, but if you don't have a cure or valid treatment they still can't come out.

So then what? They self-quarantine for another year while we wait for a vaccine?

I actually said 65 was my threshold. Very few people 65 years old or older have full time employment. Most are retired and wouldn't necessarily come into contact with others as often as younger age groups. I don't think it's fair to single-out this older demographic (and I hate doing it), but they are by far the most vulnerable. Again, there is no good solution right now.

Until we do have an effective treatment or vaccine, we are simply delaying the spread with mitigation efforts....we are not curing anything.

Young people are the biggest variable in the equation as to how slowly or quickly the virus spreads.