March Madness and Covid-19

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SoonerBounce13 said:
a deflection in this sense is not answering a question by changing the topic.

I never not answered a question. This is a message board. I brought up a new topic under the umbrella of covid. Sorry if that offends you
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please make sure to provide us with a copy of this "English language according to Bounce" so we can communicate effectively. I just assumed webster's was good enough.
 
coolm said:
please make sure to provide us with a copy of this "English language according to Bounce" so we can communicate effectively. I just assumed webster's was good enough.
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will do. right after you answer the question of what states have done a good job
 
Although this virus can occasionally kill someone you wouldn't expect (young and healthy), it is primarily preying on the elderly and those with certain existing co-morbidities.....and a good portion of those disease states are in part determined by behavior (smoking, poor diet, no exercise, etc.).

I hope that one silver lining that we as a society will come to terms with as we fight this virus is our public health in general.....we are getting a wake up call. Despite any and all precautions we have taken and will take, some people were going to succumb to this virus regardless. However, I do think it is logical to assume that we can take better care of ourselves and decrease the likelihood of having a virus like this exacerbate our existing issues or conditions.

Specifically, as a population, we need to eat better (limit fast food/processed food), exercise, and go to the doctor regularly as well as screen for possible disease modalities. One positive I see is that people are getting outdoors and walking, running, and riding bikes....more than usual at least in my area. I don't have any hard science behind it, but I do believe a portion of these bad outcomes could be somewhat prevented in the future with more focus on our personal health.
 
stormspencer said:
Although this virus can occasionally kill someone you wouldn't expect (young and healthy), it is primarily preying on the elderly and those with certain existing co-morbidities.....and a good portion of those disease states are in part determined by behavior (smoking, poor diet, no exercise, etc.).

I hope that one silver lining that we as a society will come to terms with as we fight this virus is our public health in general.....we are getting a wake up call. Despite any and all precautions we have taken and will take, some people were going to succumb to this virus regardless. However, I do think it is logical to assume that we can take better care of ourselves and decrease the likelihood of having a virus like this exacerbate our existing issues or conditions.

Specifically, as a population, we need to eat better (limit fast food/processed food), exercise, and go to the doctor regularly as well as screen for possible disease modalities. One positive I see is that people are getting outdoors and walking, running, and riding bikes....more than usual at least in my area. I don't have any hard science behind it, but I do believe a portion of these bad outcomes could be somewhat prevented in the future with more focus on our personal health.
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This is a very good point. America is obese and unhealthy. This is a big reason why we have a higher percentage of deaths. Our population is fat and sedentary which lends itself to a ton (lol) of comorbidities.
 
mict085 said:
This is a very good point. America is obese and unhealthy. This is a big reason why we have a higher percentage of deaths. Our population is fat and sedentary which lends itself to a ton (lol) of comorbidities.
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And sheltering helps to contribute to more weight gain and sitting around.
 
steverocks35 said:
https://www.expressnews.com/news/local/article/Tsunami-of-COVID-cases-crushing-Hidalgo-15398472.php

This is why we can’t open schools until we have reduced the incidence of virus in the community to a manageable level. A child passed Covid-19 to her parents and they both died. We need to set a goal for reopening schools with benchmarks everywhere, and stick to them.
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I just don't see how we can do that. What happens if we don't reduce it to a manageable level for the entire school year? Remote learning doesn't work. So kids stay in school an extra year? Teachers don't get paid? What about all the parents that now have to stay home with their kids? No jobs/pay for them?

I get what you are saying, but we damn well better find a way to make school happen, or we'll end up with equally damaging consequences by not sending them. They aren't at any more risk in a school that has some precautions, then they are at daycare, or currently when they are likely be exposed to other people in various other settings.
 
steverocks35 said:
https://www.expressnews.com/news/local/article/Tsunami-of-COVID-cases-crushing-Hidalgo-15398472.php

This is why we can’t open schools until we have reduced the incidence of virus in the community to a manageable level. A child passed Covid-19 to her parents and they both died. We need to set a goal for reopening schools with benchmarks everywhere, and stick to them.
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we need to develop a new system to educate. I like the route some states are examining with mostly off-campus studies and infrequent, staggered on-site times.
 
WTSooner said:
I just don't see how we can do that. What happens if we don't reduce it to a manageable level for the entire school year? Remote learning doesn't work. So kids stay in school an extra year? Teachers don't get paid? What about all the parents that now have to stay home with their kids? No jobs/pay for them?

I get what you are saying, but we damn well better find a way to make school happen, or we'll end up with equally damaging consequences by not sending them. They aren't at any more risk in a school that has some precautions, then they are at daycare, or currently when they are likely be exposed to other people in various other settings.
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There are no perfect solutions to most if not all problems and this in itself creates problems. We can argue what is the best way to save a person bleeding to death, but the obvious happens when the discussion lasts too long. Regardless of what solution is accepted there will always be a better one which could have been selected and that's the essence of life. People can argue "we want the best one" while there is no best one.
 
steverocks35 said:
https://www.expressnews.com/news/local/article/Tsunami-of-COVID-cases-crushing-Hidalgo-15398472.php

This is why we can’t open schools until we have reduced the incidence of virus in the community to a manageable level. A child passed Covid-19 to her parents and they both died. We need to set a goal for reopening schools with benchmarks everywhere, and stick to them.
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For context, Hidalgo county is a county that borders Mexico. The demographics of the county are largely Hispanic (obviously), working class, and fairly "unhealthy". A few years back, I actually worked with hospitals in both Edinburg and in McAllen. It is not a surprise to me that the virus has progressed somewhat in this region. It is speculation on my part, but the level of education (on the whole) is lower in this region and being a relatively unhealthy population already, the likelihood of diabetes, CHF and other co-morbidities is going to be elevated among this population.

Hispanics and African Americans already are more prone to get infected per capita and much more likely to die than are whites....so says the stats. So if an outbreak occurs within communities like these, it has the chance to go south in a hurry.
 
coolm said:
we need to develop a new system to educate. I like the route some states are examining with mostly off-campus studies and infrequent, staggered on-site times.
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Yeah I think this might be an option. Of course where does this leave us with high school sports and other activities? I just don’t know.
 
steverocks35 said:
Yeah I think this might be an option. Of course where does this leave us with high school sports and other activities? I just don’t know.
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meh, just go back to neighborhood, job, and community based orgs like things were before.
 
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