March Madness and Covid-19

[thebigabd]

How many deaths are you willing to trade for that? Your own life?

The University of Texas buddy said he is willing to sacrifice up to 20 million people. He didn't mention himself though.

But once you have sacrificed 20 million, not sure why you would stop there.

 

[BoulderSooner]

Really speaks to how fragile the system is, doesn't it? People stop working for 7-15 days and you are literally facing national destruction.

no 90 days is what i am talking about



and yes the system is fragile because it is based on producing things and buying things .. stopping that causes massive issues

 

[steverocks35]

The University of Texas buddy said he is willing to sacrifice up to 20 million people. He didn't mention himself though.

But once you have sacrificed 20 million, not sure why you would stop there.

Of course he didn't mention himself lol

 

[thebigabd]

no 90 days is what i am talking about



and yes the system is fragile because it is based on producing things and buying things .. stopping that causes massive issues

Sounds wonderful.

 

[BoulderSooner]

How many deaths are you willing to trade for that? Your own life?

we trade lives for way of life each and every day in this (and all ) countries ..

and to answer your question i am glad i don't have to make that call ...

but it is certionally a number much higher than 0

8k people die in the country each and every day ..


the CDC worst case is what 1.4 mil deaths ???

 

[BoulderSooner]

Sounds wonderful.

this is not some fairy tail ... this is the real world not what we want it to be

 

[sheepdogs1]

that does nothing
increase in taxes?? no one will have a job to buy anything

... 1 trillion a month in the short term just may extend us a little longer


your post is the example i should use when i say people don't have a concept of how bad this could get

Know well versus mean well. That's all it is and they cannot grasp this on any level. Any.

 

[steverocks35]

https://twitter.com/PardesSeleh/status/1242197595583328258?s=20

Karma is undefeated...

 

[TulsaWorld]

We are running our bball season recaps this week. Here's the Sooners one by Eric Bailey. Excerpt...

What would Oklahoma have done in the NCAA Tournament this year?

It’s a mystery that will go unsolved following the team’s 19-12 season and probable inclusion in the 68-team field.

Lon Kruger said he was “extremely proud” of this year’s squad, which only had three players with Big 12 experience entering the season. The Sooners tied for third in the conference.

“It seemed like all year we were grinding for consistency and a complete understanding of how difficult every game is. Individually we were up and down. As a team, we were up and down,” said Kruger, who completed his ninth season as coach. “To hang in there and get a third seed in Big 12 play was absolutely great. I couldn’t be more proud of what they did.”

The Sooners won three of their final four games, including two wins over Top 25 teams Texas Tech and West Virginia.

“They were clearly playing their best basketball in the last couple weeks of the season. It was very satisfying from that aspect,” Kruger said. “Obviously we would have liked to have had that experience of learning earlier on. But to finish strong like they did and compete for that third spot in the Big 12 Conference was very satisfying.”

OU only loses one player – senior Kristian Doolittle – meaning that important experience will return next season.

 

[steverocks35]

Man my internet is super-slow, all these WFH people are using up the bandwidth lol

 

[thebigabd]

we trade lives for way of life each and every day in this (and all ) countries ..

and to answer your question i am glad i don't have to make that call ...

but it is certionally a number much higher than 0

8k people die in the country each and every day ..


the CDC worst case is what 1.4 mil deaths ???

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/487489-worst-case-coronavirus-models-show-massive-us-toll

1.7 million deaths... and a complete collapse of the healthcare system. Don't forget to leave that part out. 20 million people needing to be hospitalized, with 900,000 beds.

 

[sheepdogs1]

this is not some fairy tail ... this is the real world not what we want it to be

Exactly. When you deal with people you will at times be dealing with people who believe "what they want, do not want, like, do not like" forms the reality that is the world. These people are off their collective rocker. Did you know that tomorrow it will not rain because I do not want it to? These people are loons!!! They are delusional and worse yet they will look you right in the eye with the most serious of looks. God help us. Now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

 

[thebigabd]

Exactly. When you deal with people you will at times be dealing with people who believe "what they want, do not want, like, do not like" forms the reality that is the world. These people are off their collective rocker. Did you know that tomorrow it will not rain because I do not want it to? These people are loons!!! They are delusional and worse yet they will look you right in the eye with the most serious of looks. God help us. Now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Good gravy.....

 

[coolm]

You will at times come across as being overextended with your summations of how everyone but yourself behaves in the moment. One bad apple does not spoil the whole bunch applies. You make it appear as if all of us Oklahomans are not worthy of life and can only lead others astray and this is just not accurate. If you want to get through to people you do it by staying in the realm of rationale, logic, common sense and reason for this provides perspective. Perspective has no substitutes.

And can you provide us with an update of how your buddy is doing?

1. if Okies dont like my view on Okies then they should stop voting against interest and watching fox "news".
2. chris isn't on a ventilator but he's still in ICU. hipaa prevents info until I hear something from his family and even then I respect his privacy. I believe the tenor now is he'll survive but.

 

[stormspencer]

It will take longer to saturate those areas, but they will saturate. Just look at Italy.

I wouldn't use Italy as your comparison (they look like the outlier):

• they lack the health care infrastructure we do.
• population is much more aged (ratio) then we are.
• they kept their borders open longer than we did.

If your objective is to flatten the curve, then what you've described above seems to be what I was getting at.....however, the two variables that still remain are "timing of spread" and "saturation" in these less populated areas. I have yet to see anything that tells me that it will be at the same rate as we are seeing in NYC.

 

[sheepdogs1]

Man my internet is super-slow, all these WFH people are using up the bandwidth lol

Sacrifices need to be made.

 

[thebigabd]

It's an interesting question isn't it.... Some people are willing to die for certain things.

For example, I would die to save my sons life. I would die defending the country if I believed in the war, etc.

Let's take that here... are you willing to risk your health, your families health, your life, being hospitalized, etc (there are more outcomes than death with this) to get the economy back open?

Interesting question.

Sheep, Boulder, Steve.... are you?

 

[BCSooners]

Sacrifices need to be made.

Yes, the economy being down is a sacrifice I’m willing to make so that more people don’t die.

 

[steverocks35]

I wouldn't use Italy as your comparison (they look like the outlier):

• they lack the health care infrastructure we do.
• population is much more aged (ratio) then we are.
• they kept their borders open longer than we did.

If your objective is to flatten the curve, then what you've described above seems to be what I was getting at.....however, the two variables that still remain are "timing of spread" and "saturation" in these less populated areas. I have yet to see anything that tells me that it will be at the same rate as we are seeing in NYC.

It might not spread as fast as it has in NYC but take a look at Dallas, that's very close to home, and they confirmed 24 more cases yesterday, and it's been shut down much more than the cities here. OKC and Tulsa are major metropolitan areas where you can still move around unhindered and most businesses are still open. It's going to get way worse here, in my opinion.

 

[sheepdogs1]

1. if Okies dont like my view on Okies then they should stop voting against interest and watching fox "news".
2. chris isn't on a ventilator but he's still in ICU. hipaa prevents info until I hear something from his family and even then I respect his privacy. I believe the tenor now is he'll survive but.

You see hear you go again. Fox news is portrayed as the devil. At some point in time you have to realize when a stretch is a stretch. If you converted to a non Christian faith does that mean all liberals who have not are demonic in nature. I mean where do you draw the line. I fail to believe that everyone who has graced your presence are only democrats. Do you believe the only medical personnel trying to save your friend's life are liberals?

And there will be a light at the end of the tunnel for your friend in this world.