MBB TPT2 TRANSFER PORTAL THREAD 2

WVU's loss(es) might be KSU's gain(s).

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WVU's loss(es) might be KSU's gain(s).

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I meant to post yesterday that I think KSU is the one to beat on Joe T. Tang has been very deliberate and targeted in his portal recruiting, and he has made clear that he wants to use one of the two remaining spots on a point guard. I have no inside info, but just seems like it would be a natural fit. And KSU has a lot more momentum than Tech based off last season and the coaching issues.
 
I missed the news yesterday that Chris Johnson, the incoming freshman who decided a few weeks ago to ask for his release from KU, is now going to Texas. Four-star combo guard.
 
I missed the news yesterday that Chris Johnson, the incoming freshman who decided a few weeks ago to ask for his release from KU, is now going to Texas. Four-star combo guard.

Going from grossest to gross, i see.
 
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Javian McCollum, transferring from Siena to Oklahoma: “Javian is a very dynamic playmaker. The only criticism and it’s not of him, he was injured a lot last year. I watched some of their games when they were playing down in Orlando even against the high-majors, he was usually one of the best players, if not the best player, on the court. He has the ability to score it. He can make people better. He’s very dynamic. He played very well against us both times. Both were close games, but he took and made some big plays down the stretch and took them home in our place. He’s got that killer instinct. I do think the injuries kinda hurt him last year. He ends up on the floor a lot because he’s a smaller guard who plays really hard, so if he can get a little stronger and avoid injury, I think he can make a big impact at the higher level.” – Dan Engelstad, Mount Saint Mary’s head coach

Le’Tre Darthard, transferred from Utah Valley to Oklahoma: “I do (think he can be a two-way player) because he has the toughness, too. He can compete. He was crazy efficient this year. Shot the ball really well. That efficiency combined with his competitiveness and his toughness. Yeah, that will translate.” — Chris Victor, Seattle head coach
 
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Nice write ups on transfers but how many extra wins is that gonna add to our total next season? Do those additions make OU highly competitive in the Big 12. Can this roster get to 20 wins and an a tourney berth?
 
Nice write ups on transfers but how many extra wins is that gonna add to our total next season? Do those additions make OU highly competitive in the Big 12. Can this roster get to 20 wins and an a tourney berth?

All great questions. Almost 1/2 the conf are new players.
 
We wouldn’t have made the field if the tourney included an extra 20-25 teams last year; that’s not a fringe tourney team in the way I’d define it. And we are one of probably about 50 teams that could say that we could have made it “if” all our close losses had been wins. We were closer to being a 20-loss team than a tourney team, and that’s despite playing a relatively weak noncon that gave us a chance to pad our record. I just feel like there are a lot of things that we would have to improve in order to make it.

You seem to put a lot of stock in wins and losses. I do too but I pay more attention to the quality of the team. We were fringe in the sense that we were very close to having a lot more wins. We just couldn't finish. When looking at the quality of our team, we were close. By wins and losses we weren't.

I know some of you can't comprehend thinking that way because you are stuck on wins and losses.
 
It's who he is.

And it's why this place is a ghost town far too often. Nobody can say anything for fear of clown responses like this. Can't have a discussion. Can't disagree, or have a different take.

Sad, really.

wait what? Traffic is down because of Coach? lolololol

And people can't have a discussion or disagree? That isn't because of Coach.
 
wait what? Traffic is down because of Coach? lolololol

And people can't have a discussion or disagree? That isn't because of Coach.

It's not just him, it's him and those like him. You are right, that is a decent size group right now. Never meant to imply it was JUST him, but those types of posts (his "lolololololololol"), that does nothing to make this board better.
 
You seem to put a lot of stock in wins and losses. I do too but I pay more attention to the quality of the team. We were fringe in the sense that we were very close to having a lot more wins. We just couldn't finish. When looking at the quality of our team, we were close. By wins and losses we weren't.

I know some of you can't comprehend thinking that way because you are stuck on wins and losses.

I fully understand the concept. I just think it’s complete garage for two reasons. First, the vast majority of teams in the country have plenty of close losses (and wins) on their ledger. So by your definition, probably 100+ teams are fringe tourney teams. Second, we also got our butts absolutely whipped several times last year, more than just about any season in recent memory. Many of our games in the last few weeks of the season were functionally over before halftime. Maybe if the season had ended a month or so earlier, you could argue that we were close. But that sure as heck wasn’t the case by the end of the season.
 
You seem to put a lot of stock in wins and losses. I do too but I pay more attention to the quality of the team. We were fringe in the sense that we were very close to having a lot more wins. We just couldn't finish. When looking at the quality of our team, we were close. By wins and losses we weren't.

I know some of you can't comprehend thinking that way because you are stuck on wins and losses.

You aren't wrong, but I'd put more stock in that argument if we didn't also have a lot of close wins. If close losses could have easily been close wins, then close wins could have easily been close losses. If we needed our team to win EVERY close game, well, I don't think that really means we were a very good team. I'd guess our record in close games was pretty similar to most teams, or kind of around the average.

Close wins:
Ark PB by 8, but was a 4 point game with 30 seconds left
South Alabama by 4
Ole Miss by 4
@TT by 5
vs WVU by 1

I counted about 7 games that I'd consider close losses, so we were about 5-7 in close games. Even swinging that to 7-5 which is probably pretty good only would have picked up 2 more wins.

The team was WILDLY inconsistent. All season. Played pretty bad early and lost some games we had no business losing, and won some close games that shouldn't have been close. Got better and had some good showings in conference play, but also had some stinkers.

Like beating Alabama (arguably the best team most of the season) by 24, then losing the next four by 10, 32, 10, & 23. Just wildly up and down all conference season. Some may look at that as being close, but teams that wildly inconsistent are typically further away, rather than close.

I'm VERY cautiously optimistic that we'll put a better team on the floor this year, but that is mostly due to the guards. PM really dropped the ball at the 4/5 spots, and it'll be interesting to see how and how much that hurts us. We have almost no room for error. And if this new style doesn't pan out, the pressure defense and transition offense, I think we could really struggle, b/c I don't like a lot of our offense in the halfcourt. Or defense around the rim. Or potentially, our rebounding.
 
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You aren't wrong, but I'd put more stock in that argument if we didn't also have a lot of close wins. If close losses could have easily been close wins, then close wins could have easily been close losses. If we needed our team to win EVERY close game, well, I don't think that really means we were a very good team. I'd guess our record in close games was pretty similar to most teams, or kind of around the average.

Close wins:
Ark PB by 8, but was a 4 point game with 30 seconds left
South Alabama by 4
Ole Miss by 4
@TT by 5
vs WVU by 1

I counted about 7 games that I'd consider close losses, so we were about 5-7 in close games. Even swinging that to 7-5 which is probably pretty good only would have picked up 2 more wins.

The team was WILDLY inconsistent. All season. Played pretty bad early and lost some games we had no business losing, and won some close games that shouldn't have been close. Got better and had some good showings in conference play, but also had some stinkers.

Like beating Alabama (arguably the best team most of the season) by 24, then losing the next four by 10, 32, 10, & 23. Just wildly up and down all conference season. Some may look at that as being close, but teams that wildly inconsistent are typically further away, rather than close.

I'm VERY cautiously optimistic that we'll put a better team on the floor this year, but that is mostly due to the guards. PM really dropped the ball at the 4/5 spots, and it'll be interesting to see how and how much that hurts us. We have almost no room for error. And if this new style doesn't pan out, the pressure defense and transition offense, I think we could really struggle, b/c I don't like a lot of our offense in the halfcourt. Or defense around the rim. Or potentially, our rebounding.

What new style? Has Moser said he is changing styles?
 
I fully understand the concept. I just think it’s complete garage for two reasons. First, the vast majority of teams in the country have plenty of close losses (and wins) on their ledger. So by your definition, probably 100+ teams are fringe tourney teams. Second, we also got our butts absolutely whipped several times last year, more than just about any season in recent memory. Many of our games in the last few weeks of the season were functionally over before halftime. Maybe if the season had ended a month or so earlier, you could argue that we were close. But that sure as heck wasn’t the case by the end of the season.

And many teams across the nation also got there butts whipped by halftime as well.

The difference is a lot of our close losses were against top 25 or even top 10 teams.
 
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