Michael Porter quote today about Oklahoma

skyvue said:
My point wasn't that he won't get drafted high if he plays at Mizzou -- I'm fully aware that Simmons went #1 at LSU. But if you're going to play a year or two in college, why not enjoy the experience to the fullest? Why not go to a school where you can have an instant impact but you are still in a position to have some success, where you can play in the tourney and maybe even make it to the later rounds?
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Because he wants to be the hometown hero. I don't understand how this is hard to understand, when Trae did the same thing. He turned down KU, a team that's won the Big 12 13 straight times, for OU. You could ask him the same question. Why go to OU when you can go to KU and make the tournament every year, win the Big 12 every year, etc.

Reality is, hometown has a significant pull
 
pnkranger said:
We won 11 games this year
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Your point? Missouri won eight. They had a 13-game losing streak and lost 21 of their last 24. All this in a much weaker conference than OU plays in.

OU has also been to the tourney four out of the last five seasons, with a Sweet 16 and a Final Four, plus a national player of the year. Mizzou hasn't been to the tourney since 2013 and hasn't won a tourney game since 2010.

Plus, Trae Young.
 
Matthew G said:
Because he wants to be the hometown hero. I don't understand how this is hard to understand, when Trae did the same thing. He turned down KU, a team that's won the Big 12 13 straight times, for OU. You could ask him the same question. Why go to OU when you can go to KU and make the tournament every year, win the Big 12 every year, etc.

Reality is, hometown has a significant pull
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I don't know why you think I don't understand it. I'm offering a viable counter argument for coming to OU, is all. As for Trae, he has stated that he was still torn as recently as a week or two before making his announcement, so who's to say what could happen? I'm not betting the rent on Porter coming to OU, but stranger things have happened.
 
skyvue said:
I don't know why you think I don't understand it. I'm offering a viable counter argument for coming to OU, is all. As for Trae, he has stated that he was still torn as recently as a week or two before making his announcement, so who's to say what could happen? I'm not betting the rent on Porter coming to OU, but stranger things have happened.
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You're offering an argument that if he wants to win, he should go to OU. I would point out that I'm not sure Porter cares about the talent on the team, as he thinks he can be the guy himself. I'd also add, out of the 4 schools on his current list, there's an argument that Virginia is better than OU with the current teams. So if he wanted to win right away, you'd probably argue for Virginia.



The argument for OU would be: Play with Trae Young, play within close proximity of your hometown so your family can see you often, while not having to be "the guy" that everyone in your hometown wants you to be and all the pressure that "Missouri paid to have you"
 
So I had not watched any video on Porter. I am now mad I did. Very polished.
 
Matthew G said:
You're offering an argument that if he wants to win, he should go to OU. I would point out that I'm not sure Porter cares about the talent on the team, as he thinks he can be the guy himself.
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No, that's not my argument, or rather, it's just a part of it. I'm sure Porter can be the guy on the team -- on most teams, certainly on Mizzou's team. If that's all he cares about, it doesn't much matter where he goes.

But then Simmons was the man on LSU's team, but I think he'd have enjoyed his one college season more if he'd gone to a better team. Not a loaded, blue-blood team where he might not have stood out so much, but a squad with enough talent on hand to make a big jump with the addition of his talents. And to put it simply, I can't imagine Simmons wouldn't have enjoyed playing in the NCAA tourney the one season he had the chance to do so.

There's a good chance Mizzou won't make the tourney even with Porter on hand. I think OU will be in the tourney, and with Porter, they'd be all but assured of it, in my view.

Matthew G said:
I'd also add, out of the 4 schools on his current list, there's an argument that Virginia is better than OU with the current teams. So if he wanted to win right away, you'd probably argue for Virginia.
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Sure, there's an argument to be made for Virginia, but I wasn't arguing for OU over UVA -- I was arguing for OU over MU, since that's where you have repeatedly stated he's likely to go. You want to argue for Virginia now, have at it.

Matthew G said:
The argument for OU would be: Play with Trae Young, play within close proximity of your hometown so your family can see you often, while not having to be "the guy" that everyone in your hometown wants you to be and all the pressure that "Missouri paid to have you"
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That's your argument for OU, not THE argument for OU. I wouldn't factor in the hypothetical pressure of being a hometown hero even a tiny bit.
 
kbsooner said:
So I had not watched any video on Porter. I am now mad I did. Very polished.
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Yep. If he came to play with Trae at OU we would be an immediate top 5 contender for next year with those two plus everyone else returning (Kam, the K(C)ristians, Odomes, Lattin, McNeace, etc).
 
Virginia is going to be a disaster next year, as is Missouri.
 
Matthew G said:
Because he wants to be the hometown hero. I don't understand how this is hard to understand, when Trae did the same thing. He turned down KU, a team that's won the Big 12 13 straight times, for OU. You could ask him the same question. Why go to OU when you can go to KU and make the tournament every year, win the Big 12 every year, etc.

Reality is, hometown has a significant pull
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Except for the fact that he already signed with a school far from home once.
 
Lots of people were convinced that Trae wasn't going to commit to Oklahoma. It might be wise just to hide and watch until this plays out.
 
Section31 said:
Except for the fact that he already signed with a school far from home once.
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Yes, to play for his Godfather and save his job, at least he thought he was saving his job. And that's where the homesickness by the mother came into play. She apparently flew out every weekend and was miserable doing so according to the Missouri writers. It's also why her comment yesterday was "it'd be special is jr ended up at Missouri due to the family being there". Momma usually gets what momma wants.
 
Matthew G said:
Yes, to play for his Godfather and save his job, at least he thought he was saving his job. And that's where the homesickness by the mother came into play. She apparently flew out every weekend and was miserable doing so according to the Missouri writers. It's also why her comment yesterday was "it'd be special is jr ended up at Missouri due to the family being there". Momma usually gets what momma wants.
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or more likely to play for the team his dad coached .... and there is a pretty good chance that happens again .. but it may not be at mizzou
 
Matthew G said:
Yes, to play for his Godfather and save his job, at least he thought he was saving his job. And that's where the homesickness by the mother came into play. She apparently flew out every weekend and was miserable doing so according to the Missouri writers. It's also why her comment yesterday was "it'd be special is jr ended up at Missouri due to the family being there". Momma usually gets what momma wants.
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I agree, but that wasn't what you said.
 
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