Missouri to SEC/Pinkel to UCLA

[bocabull]

How funny will it be when Pinkel jumps ship to the Pac-12 instead of getting his brains beat out in the SEC.

If he's gotta start over, which he will when his Texas recruiting pipeline is destroyed by this move he can start over at UCLA with USC on massive probation.

Because his 9-3 average record turns into 7-5 in the SEC and 7-5 gets you fired.

 

[dubyac]

why would the texas recruiting be destroyed?? a&m is in the sec now... i could see him leaving for washington... but not ucla...

 

[stoops4pres]

I've heard rumors that UCLA could be targeting Mike Leach.

Other than Texas A&M and Notre Dame, UCLA is the biggest underachiever out there. No excuse to be that mediocre when you're located in a recruiting gold mine like UCLA is. Especially now that USC is on probation.

 

[Sawyer]

Mizzou's Texas recruiting won't take a major hit.

Mizzou's recruiting in other areas (both in Missouri and in the south) will improve.

Pinkel isn't going to take a 40% pay-cut to leave Mizzou.

Pinkel has been campaigning MU administrators for the SEC.

7-5 in the SEC won't get Pinkel fired from a school with three other coaches in the past 75 years to post winning records.

 

[DFWHoopster]

Mizzou's Texas recruiting won't take a major hit.

Mizzou's recruiting in other areas (both in Missouri and in the south) will improve.

Pinkel isn't going to take a 40% pay-cut to leave Mizzou.

Pinkel has been campaigning MU administrators for the SEC.

7-5 in the SEC won't get Pinkel fired from a school with three other coaches in the past 75 years to post winning records.

Nebraska's Texas pipelne

2009 - 7 commits
2010 - 5 commits
2011 - 5 commits
2012 - 1 commit

 

[Sawyer]

Nebraska ≠ Mizzou
Pelini ≠ Pinkel
Big 10 ≠ SEC

Pinkel's approach to recruiting in Texas is not one that will be greatly affected by a move to the SEC. He's cultivated relationships for over a decade and spends a great deal of effort searching for players that aren't on the radars yet of major programs. Almost every player from Texas that's made an impact at Mizzou has been someone with mid-major offers (maybe Texas Tech or Baylor). Very rarely has he gone head to head with UT, A&M, OU or OSU.

Will there maybe be a few players who choose Baylor or Texas Tech over Mizzou now? Maybe. But I doubt it. Those players were willing to leave Texas before, playing an average of one game per season in Texas. Baylor and Texas Tech already had a huge advantage over Mizzou in that regard, so it doesn't really change much. Seeing the games on TV won't be an issue, either. The SEC will get plenty of coverage in Texas.

The Big 10 not only gets little attention in the south, but it's also a cold weather league. That's a pretty significant disadvantage in recruiting Texas (or any warm weather state). Not that Missouri winters are nice, but no one wants to go from a place like Texas to Minnesota or Wisconsin or Michigan in late November.

I think Mizzou's recruiting in Texas would be closer to Arkansas than Nebraska (I realize Arkansas has some historical and proximity advantages; closer ≠ equal comparison).

Pinkel's approach — building relationships over time, searching under every rock for hidden talent instead of trying to beat out established local programs for known commodities — will also serve him well in recruiting SEC states. There is a ton of talent down there that goes overlooked (look at all the NFL players from random small southern schools). Those are the types Pinkel will look for. Some may choose to stay in the south, but I think most would prefer a chance to play for an SEC team — even one like Missouri — over Louisiana Tech. (see: L'Damian Washington, who had a long touchdown against OU this year; 2 star kid from Louisiana whose only offers from southern teams were LA Tech and LA Monroe)

 

[DenverSooner]

How funny will it be when Pinkel jumps ship to the Pac-12 instead of getting his brains beat out in the SEC.

If he's gotta start over, which he will when his Texas recruiting pipeline is destroyed by this move he can start over at UCLA with USC on massive probation.

Because his 9-3 average record turns into 7-5 in the SEC and 7-5 gets you fired.

Not at Mizzou. 7-5 is a hall of fame type performance. That type of record combined with the Mizzou school of journalism will really put the state of Missouri on the map.:ez-roll:

 

[bocabull]

Isn't it hilarious to see Missouri on their soap box bragging about their academic prowess only to jump at the chance to be a schedule filler in the knuckle dragging SEC. Can't wait to see them travel to LSU and be spit on.

 

[Sawyer]

The knuckle dragging SEC will have more AAU schools than the new Big 12.

Of course, your soap box story is complete fiction anyway.

 

[tycat947]

The whorns may pull Mizzou's AAU membership just like they did the Cornhuskers!!!

 

[seniorsooner]

I'm thinkin Arby's

 

[bocabull]

Lol @ this AAU nonsense. Take a drive through Arkansas, Mississippi, Louisiana and Alabama and get back to me. Roads falling apart, horrifically poor living conditions, poverty, low education, smoking sections in restaurants,

Your new peers!!!! I'm just so glad Boren is leading OU.

 

[tycat947]

Lol @ this AAU nonsense. Take a drive through Arkansas, Mississippi, Louisiana and Alabama and get back to me. Roads falling apart, horrifically poor living conditions, poverty, low education, smoking sections in restaurants,

Your new peers!!!! I'm just so glad Boren is leading OU.

+1

When my sister and I drove to the Orange Bowl in 1988, we drove thru Miss and Alabama and that's probably the most scared I've been driving anywhere! Glad we didn't have car trouble!!!

 

[thebigabd]

Lol @ this AAU nonsense. Take a drive through Arkansas, Mississippi, Louisiana and Alabama and get back to me. Roads falling apart, horrifically poor living conditions, poverty, low education, smoking sections in restaurants,

Your new peers!!!! I'm just so glad Boren is leading OU.

In my experience through those states, that is very true. They also have the highest obesity rates, and I think crime is an issue.

 

[Sooner_In_MI]

Those states are also bad storm chasing terrain.

 

[seniorsooner]

Yeah, thank god the Big 12 is largely comprised of the metropolitan states of Texas, Oklahoma and Kansas! Right?

 

[skyvue]

In my experience through those states, that is very true. They also have the highest obesity rates, and I think crime is an issue.

Ah, we've got another "Hello, Kettle? This is Pot; you're black" thread going.

Mississippi and Alabama do have the highest obesity rates, but Oklahoma's breathing down their necks so closely that it's a really questionable move to point fingers.

1. Mississippi (34.4%)
2. Alabama (32.3%)
3. West Virginia (32.2%)
4. Tennessee (31.9%)
5. Louisiana (31.6%)
6. Kentucky (31.5%)
7. Oklahoma (31.4%)

As you can see, Oklahoma's less than a percentage point out of second place. So really, best not to focus on that competition.

And in violent crime, the rates were as follows in 2010 (all rates are per 100,000 inhabitants):

Oklahoma: murder--5.2; forcible rape--38.7; robbery--89.0; aggravated assault--346.7
Alabama: murder--5.7; forcible rape--28.2; robbery--99.6; aggravated assault--244.2
Mississppi: murder--7.0; forcible rape--31.2; robbery--93.7; aggravated assault--137.8

It's a tough call between those three states, but Oklahoma ranks higher than the other two in two out of four categories: forcible rape and aggravated assault (where the margin is quite wide).

I see lots of posts on OU boards pointing fingers at other states and regions as regards their crime rates, but honestly, Oklahoma has more than its share of violent crime.

And mocking other states about obesity? It would seem Oklahomans really wouldn't want to go there.

 

[bocabull]

As usual skyvue is referencing bad data. Oklahoma 2010 obesity was 30.4 which was 11th and dropping now below Missouri, Texas, Michigan and South Carolina. Mississippi was #1 at 34.

All you have to do is visit Oklahoma vs the SEC states I mentioned and the difference is night and day. Like NYC. People can act like it's this great city and yes, it's fun to visit for a few days but pretty quickly you are ready to leave because it's a congested, filthy, old dump.

 

[campbest]

Mississippi sucks, just ask stoops4pres.

 

[thebigabd]

As usual skyvue is referencing bad data. Oklahoma 2010 obesity was 30.4 which was 11th and dropping now below Missouri, Texas, Michigan and South Carolina. Mississippi was #1 at 34.

All you have to do is visit Oklahoma vs the SEC states I mentioned and the difference is night and day. Like NYC. People can act like it's this great city and yes, it's fun to visit for a few days but pretty quickly you are ready to leave because it's a congested, filthy, old dump.

I am pondering a trip to the desert next year for the Phoenix Open. Is February a good time of year to visit Phoenix? You ever been to that golf event? Usually draws a lot of the big names and is kind of the kick-off event for the year.