Missouri to SEC/Pinkel to UCLA

[skyvue]

As usual skyvue is referencing bad data. Oklahoma 2010 obesity was 30.4 which was 11th and dropping now below Missouri, Texas, Michigan and South Carolina. Mississippi was #1 at 34.

All you have to do is visit Oklahoma vs the SEC states I mentioned and the difference is night and day. Like NYC. People can act like it's this great city and yes, it's fun to visit for a few days but pretty quickly you are ready to leave because it's a congested, filthy, old dump.

Really? Bad data?

You claim that your data, for which you cite no source, is from 2010. My data was taken from a July 2011 USA Today story about a report on state-by-state obesity data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). I think that stands as pretty reliable (and recent) data.

However, if you feel that Oklahoma ranking 11th in the country in obesity is something to be proud of, don't let me rain on your parade.

By the way, I've been to every state in the union except Alaska, so I have a reasonably good basis for calling into question the practice of state and region bashing. I know whereof I speak.

What's more, some of my most enjoyable times during a four-month cross country trip that took me to every state except Hawaii and the aforementioned Alaska were spent in Mississippi.

Further, having spent 24 years in Oklahoma and 29 in New York, I feel much more qualified to speak on life in NYC than you.

But here's the thing: I wouldn't presume to do so. If NYC's not for you, fair enough. Enjoy Arizona (which is where, if I recall correctly, you reside).

The point is, every place has its pros and cons. Every place. It all depends on what you're looking for. I wouldn't live in Arizona on a bet, but if you're happy there, more power to you.

But I also wouldn't trash Arizona, much as it's not for me. I've been there more than once, and had some fine times. I would happily visit again any time.

But I've also seen towns and neighborhoods there that, in their own way, were every bit as bleak as some of the worst parts of Alabama and Mississippi -- and Oklahoma, for that matter.

I have little use for state and region bashing in general. It's petty and is often indicative of an inferiority complex. If you're really proud of where you live, you don't need to trash other places.

But the idea of a bunch of Oklahomans sitting around knocking other places for their crime and obesity rates is especially rich. And I say that as a proud native Okie.

 

[stoops4pres]

Ah, we've got another "Hello, Kettle? This is Pot; you're black" thread going.

Mississippi and Alabama do have the highest obesity rates, but Oklahoma's breathing down their necks so closely that it's a really questionable move to point fingers.

1. Mississippi (34.4%)
2. Alabama (32.3%)
3. West Virginia (32.2%)
4. Tennessee (31.9%)
5. Louisiana (31.6%)
6. Kentucky (31.5%)
7. Oklahoma (31.4%)

As you can see, Oklahoma's less than a percentage point out of second place. So really, best not to focus on that competition.

And in violent crime, the rates were as follows in 2010 (all rates are per 100,000 inhabitants):

Oklahoma: murder--5.2; forcible rape--38.7; robbery--89.0; aggravated assault--346.7
Alabama: murder--5.7; forcible rape--28.2; robbery--99.6; aggravated assault--244.2
Mississppi: murder--7.0; forcible rape--31.2; robbery--93.7; aggravated assault--137.8

It's a tough call between those three states, but Oklahoma ranks higher than the other two in two out of four categories: forcible rape and aggravated assault (where the margin is quite wide).

I see lots of posts on OU boards pointing fingers at other states and regions as regards their crime rates, but honestly, Oklahoma has more than its share of violent crime.

And mocking other states about obesity? It would seem Oklahomans really wouldn't want to go there.

Was going to say basically the same thing, except you conveyed it much better than I would have. Nicely done.

Oklahoma is a great state, a primary reason why I chose to go to OU for my undergrad. I'm not trying to denigrate by any means, but like you said, it's pretty hypocritical to pimp the state of Oklahoma when it is splitting hairs with many states being criticized.

 

[stoops4pres]

All you have to do is visit Oklahoma vs the SEC states I mentioned and the difference is night and day. Like NYC. People can act like it's this great city and yes, it's fun to visit for a few days but pretty quickly you are ready to leave because it's a congested, filthy, old dump.

By these standards applied, I don't know if you've seen much of Oklahoma.

I've spent most of my life in either Oklahoma or Mississippi (on the border of MS and Alabama), and I can say there is no drastic "night and day" difference. You probably won't like this boca, but there are many similarities between Oklahoma and Mississippi/Alabama.

As usual skyvue is referencing bad data. Oklahoma 2010 obesity was 30.4 which was 11th and dropping now below Missouri, Texas, Michigan and South Carolina. Mississippi was #1 at 34.

According to this data, Oklahoma hasn't dropped to that extent. Nor have they dropped below the states you mentioned. Also, they weren't below Arkansas nor Louisiana.

http://calorielab.com/news/2011/06/30/fattest-states-2011/

I think it's also worth pointing out that Oklahoma City was named the most unhealthy city in America only a year ago.

Objectively speaking, there isn't much room to mock other states when compared to Oklahoma. This state has comparable flaws as well. I think you might be subconsciously associating the greatness that is Scottsdale for the entire state of Oklahoma Unfortunately, many spots in Oklahoma don't have that type of paradise.

 

[stoops4pres]

Mississippi sucks, just ask stoops4pres.

Haterz

Gonna'

Hate.

 

[bocabull]

No offense intended stoops. The thread got off topic as it's sole intention was to highlight Missouri's desperate quest for relevance.

Admittedly I drove out of Norman on graduation day and other than owning a lake house on monkey island for a few years have not resided in the state since. I do recall being quite alarmed at the size of some of the cattle sporting OU gear at road games I attended at the Orange bowl, sugar bowl, Alabama etc.

 

[stoops4pres]

No offense intended stoops. The thread got off topic as it's sole intention was to highlight Missouri's desperate quest for relevance.

Admittedly I drove out of Norman on graduation day and other than owning a lake house on monkey island for a few years have not resided in the state since. I do recall being quite alarmed at the size of some of the cattle sporting OU gear at road games I attended at the Orange bowl, sugar bowl, Alabama etc.

No offense taken. In fact, I thought the same exact thing about Mississippi before I moved there from Tulsa... Based off my experiences though, there are quite a few similarities when comparing state by state. Even the po-dunk cow towns of Stillwater and Starkville (Miss. State) are remarkably similar. Come party with me sometime in the greatness that is Oxford boca, and I think your perception would change. They have some pretty legit golf courses here as well.

 

[bocabull]

I hear nothing but good things about Oxford. My main Mississippi experience was driving multiple times late at night on Highway 98 between Hattiesburg and Mobile on the way to and from Boca when I lived there. That was straight out of deliverance. lol

That and a couple flights from Dallas to Gulfport when they first opened the casinos there.

O yeah and a western sizzler in Jackson. lol

 

[stoops4pres]

I hear nothing but good things about Oxford. My main Mississippi experience was driving multiple times late at night on Highway 98 between Hattiesburg and Mobile on the way to and from Boca when I lived there. That was straight out of deliverance. lol

That and a couple flights from Dallas to Gulfport when they first opened the casinos there.

O yeah and a western sizzler in Jackson. lol

Haha, in that case I perfectly understand you drawing that conclusion about Mississippi. South MS is nothing to brag about, and that is putting it nicely. It's like the panhandle of Oklahoma or all of west Texas... Pretty underwhelming scenery.

 

[Sawyer]

Last time I was in Oxford (2007), it was ok. It was weird, though. The only non-white people I saw were in low wage service positions or in uniform on the field (football team and band). Everyone else I saw was white. Everyone was nice, but it was just a little creepy.

 

[skyvue]

No offense intended stoops.

Nice of boca to make peace with stoops4pres. I like to see that.

I guess I'll have to wait a bit longer for my apology from boca, even though I've shown that my "bad data" was actually more up to date (and credibly sourced, to boot) than what boca was throwing out.

Oh well, if Cade Davis can wait this long for boca to apologize, I guess I can hang on a while longer.

 

[bocabull]

2010 CDC State Obesity Rates

Not that anybody really cares. ABD just made an off the cuff remark as did I which then turned into a meaningless debates over micro statistics.

And when all is said and done ABD's initial remark was validated by the CDC.

 

[skyvue]

2010 CDC State Obesity Rates

Not that anybody really cares. ABD just made an off the cuff remark as did I which then turned into a meaningless debates over micro statistics.

And when all is said and done ABD's initial remark was validated by the CDC.

http://healthyamericans.org/report/88/

No one cares, but you lash out at me for providing "bad data" when, in fact, my data is from a 2011 report, and in fact, the margin of error between 2010 and 2011 is terribly slim.

My point was accurate all along, and you know it. When it comes to obesity and crime rates, which were raised as factors that separate Oklahoma from states like Alabama and Mississippi, the distinctions and differences are so tiny and marginal as to be meaningless.

And with all respect to ABD, his remarks were not at all validated. Pointing fingers at other states over obesity rates when the state you're bragging on ranks in the top 7 is a questionable endeavor at best. That you pointed to an older ranking that still had Oklahoma at #11 is just laughable.

That you can't bring yourself to cop to have falsely called me out doesn't surprise. It's standard practice.

 

[bocabull]

What is it the CDC or some healthydoodle.org website?

Latest CDC data says Mississippi is #1 and Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, South Carolina & Kentucky all have higher obesity rates than Oklahoma which is what ABD said to begin with.

Stop stalking and go pick up some of that disgusting garbage that was strewn all over the street of Manhattan when I was there last week. And while you're at it tell those idiot kids "occupying wall street" that if they don't like the big banks then don't do business with them. Don't accept their credit cards, don't accept their students loans, don't use their debit cards etc.

 

[Sawyer]

Can we get back to the idiotic suggestion that Pinkel will leave Mizzou for UCLA? That was pretty stupid.

 

[bocabull]

Yeah who would leave columbia misery for Westwood. It would never happen.

Face it mizzou. You are minimum wage.

 

[Sawyer]

Yeah who would leave columbia misery for Westwood. It would never happen.

Face it mizzou. You are minimum wage.

Move from a midwestern college town with a low cost of living to LA and take a million dollar pay cut in the process. Definitely sounds like something most people would be interested in.

 

[thebigabd]

Can we get back to the idiotic suggestion that Pinkel will leave Mizzou for UCLA? That was pretty stupid.

That would be a horrible hire for UCLA. The guy runs a clown offense where the QB lines up 10 yards deep. Never going to win anything significant with that garbage. Its complete trash. I can't stand watching Mizzou play football.

 

[Sawyer]

Don't go all boca on me and start making stuff up.

 

[DenverSooner]

The point is, every place has its pros and cons. Every place. It all depends on what you're looking for. I wouldn't live in Arizona on a bet, but if you're happy there, more power to you.

This is very true. I have lived in Chicago, Detroit, OKC (Edmond and Norman), Denver and Austin. I really have no recollection of Chicago but I can honestly say all of the other places are perfectly acceptable places to live.

 

[campbest]

No offense taken. In fact, I thought the same exact thing about Mississippi before I moved there from Tulsa... Based off my experiences though, there are quite a few similarities when comparing state by state. Even the po-dunk cow towns of Stillwater and Starkville (Miss. State) are remarkably similar. Come party with me sometime in the greatness that is Oxford boca, and I think your perception would change. They have some pretty legit golf courses here as well.

THIS. Boca, I will be in Oxford w/ stoops4pres Nov 19th for the LSU game...come set up shop with us in the Grove.