Porter MF Moser!!

Stikboy said:
Pattern obvious, if you can't see it. 4 or 5 straight skull draggings in which we look awful. Then beat, maybe even boat race a terrible team like LSU at home and then here we go again. Everybody's wrong, or a clown. Porter F'in Moser... The savior of OU basketball!
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I seriously doubt anyone on this board thinks that way right about now. We had the best half of the season when we crushed South Carolina, so there was nothing wrong or delusional about hoping it could serve as a springboard to start playing like we did when I was sitting 30 feet from the basket that Fears made to beat Michigan. It obviously didn't happen. What did happen is that we actually played very well for most of the first half against Auburn (despite not being able to secure a rebound), and when we ultimately got crushed anyway, the team lost all of whatever confidence was built up after beating SC. Furthermore, everyone on here knows it's time to pack things up if we can't beat LSU at home.

Here is how the optimists are thinking. If we beat LSU, then we don't want to give up on the season until if / when we hit that 12th conference loss. If that happens, then we will join all of you who are thinking about next year and who the new coach will be. Of course, being excited the day Moser is fired may equate to a dog chasing a car and catching it. In other words, what happens next? Without an AD who can make a good hire or even care about basketball, not having competitive NIL money, and not having a fan base that gives a crap, and it won't matter who the head coach is. This has been a collective failure to this point, so the delusional ones are those who think all the problems will be solved once Moser is out of the picture.
 
WaymanFan said:
I seriously doubt anyone on this board thinks that way right about now. We had the best half of the season when we crushed South Carolina, so there was nothing wrong or delusional about hoping it could serve as a springboard to start playing like we did when I was sitting 30 feet from the basket that Fears made to beat Michigan. It obviously didn't happen. What did happen is that we actually played very well for most of the first half against Auburn (despite not being able to secure a rebound), and when we ultimately got crushed anyway, the team lost all of whatever confidence was built up after beating SC. Furthermore, everyone on here knows it's time to pack things up if we can't beat LSU at home.

Here is how the optimists are thinking. If we beat LSU, then we don't want to give up on the season until if / when we hit that 12th conference loss. If that happens, then we will join all of you who are thinking about next year and who the new coach will be. Of course, being excited the day Moser is fired may equate to a dog chasing a car and catching it. In other words, what happens next? Without an AD who can make a good hire or even care about basketball, not having competitive NIL money, and not having a fan base that gives a crap, and it won't matter who the head coach is. This has been a collective failure to this point, so the delusional ones are those who think all the problems will be solved once Moser is out of the picture.
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Well I think it's pretty apparent if not blatantly obvious that keeping him is not the move. At this point OU needs a fresh start, whomever it may be. I'm sorry but it's laughable to me to even consider keeping him even if they were to beat LSU, and also even winning another game or two. We've been beaten down so much over the last eight years it's laughable what i'm seeing posted. As an OU fan, I don't want to win 7 conference games(which seems impossible). I don't want to go .500. I want win and win big. Not a conference championship every year but sheesh cmon. Can we be competitive and compete for it... sometimes? OU basketball fans are so beaten down right now with their expectations and it's very sad. Not long ago Auburn... sucked! This is OU. It's been done before and it can be done again.

How anyone could be an "optimist" at this point is beyond me.
 
WaymanFan said:
I seriously doubt anyone on this board thinks that way right about now. We had the best half of the season when we crushed South Carolina, so there was nothing wrong or delusional about hoping it could serve as a springboard to start playing like we did when I was sitting 30 feet from the basket that Fears made to beat Michigan. It obviously didn't happen. What did happen is that we actually played very well for most of the first half against Auburn (despite not being able to secure a rebound), and when we ultimately got crushed anyway, the team lost all of whatever confidence was built up after beating SC. Furthermore, everyone on here knows it's time to pack things up if we can't beat LSU at home.

Here is how the optimists are thinking. If we beat LSU, then we don't want to give up on the season until if / when we hit that 12th conference loss. If that happens, then we will join all of you who are thinking about next year and who the new coach will be. Of course, being excited the day Moser is fired may equate to a dog chasing a car and catching it. In other words, what happens next? Without an AD who can make a good hire or even care about basketball, not having competitive NIL money, and not having a fan base that gives a crap, and it won't matter who the head coach is. This has been a collective failure to this point, so the delusional ones are those who think all the problems will be solved once Moser is out of the picture.
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Oh I promise you there are a handful of our regular posters who still think he is a good coach and that none of this is his fault. They blame NIL and Joe and the arena and are convinced that Moser is doing everything possible and that no one could be realistically expected to do a better job. Hell, people were making this argument right up till last night. If four years hasn’t been long enough to convince them, another in a long line of embarrassing, lopsided losses won’t be enough to change their minds.

And people don’t want to hear this, but South Carolina means nothing. They are a winless team, were missing a key player, and, in our gym, hung around for 30 minutes till we put together a good 10-minute stretch. Vandy was an incredible half of basketball, but that’s all it was … one half. That represents 1/62 of our season.

Arizona and Michigan are impressive wins, but we didn’t play the Arizona team that is in second place in their league and one of the hottest teams in the country. We played a team that was .500 through the first 8 weeks of the season and looked absolutely awful. The win helps our metrics just the same, but for people to point to that game as a way of clinging to the hope that there is something good or great within our team is silly.

And count me firmly in the group that believes wholeheartedly that a good coach could turn this around quickly, even without a massive change in any of the external factors. We have won for decades without a huge budget, without fan support, and without a good arena. In the pre-NIL era, we won while being one of the rare programs that wasn’t illegally paying guys. We won big for a dozen years under Kelvin without putting a single player in the NBA. That’s really what the NIL argument boils down to — an argument that because we don’t have money, we won’t be able to get top talent, and therefore, we won’t win. Well, with a couple notable exceptions, our program went the better part of 30 years winning a ton of games, and rarely missing the tournament, despite not having high level players. The particulars of the system have changed, but good coaches can still get more out of whatever players they do have. Guys like Loser, on the other hand, flounder when they have players like Fears, Moore, Oweh, and Uzan.
 
He will get a raise and extension. Joe C doesn't care anymore, and will reward him running a clean program and not rocking the boat. He's our couch for the next 5 years.
 
Porter now has a worse winning % than he did at loyola. So now it's his 3rd worst career winning percentage of his 4 stops.

pm should BEG to go back to UA-Little rock (his first HC job, where he won his best but also played the pancakiest of all pancake seasons - see a trend?).

Also, drew Valentine has INCREASED the win percentage at loyola to better than pm's tenure.. so looks like Valentine is a better coach than pm and loyola likely wouldn't even take pm back (although Valentine did have an absolute clunker of a season back in his 2nd season).

Fire him
 
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