Starting lineup next year( who’s back?)

I go back and forth. I see the potential but at some point you gotta grab boards and make 2 foot shots.

And do not forget free throws! Vic is an active player when inserted in the game and his style of play will be a magnet for being fouled. He needs to be able to use this to his advantage and not to his detriment.
 
I go back and forth. I see the potential but at some point you gotta grab boards and make 2 foot shots.

Thats my deal. I think he will always have a finishing problem. He could get to be a great rebounder but thats about all i see IMO
 
I am not a Vic guy. I don't see him doing much for us.. sadly he may be forced to play due to no competition

Agree. I was actually thinking there may be a chance he moves on and transfers, which really kills our depth. The guy just doesn't understand the game. He's a freak athlete, can rebound/block shots, but he's also 6'7 playing a very crowded spot at the moment with Manek, Hill, shoot Harkless even plays small ball 4 at times. I think he can play/contribute for sure.. just don't know if it will ever be more than 10-16min a game.

My dream would be Williams comes back and we play our small 4 guard lineup with a transfer/Rick. Then guys like Vic/Hill come off bench.
 
Agree. I was actually thinking there may be a chance he moves on and transfers, which really kills our depth. The guy just doesn't understand the game. He's a freak athlete, can rebound/block shots, but he's also 6'7 playing a very crowded spot at the moment with Manek, Hill, shoot Harkless even plays small ball 4 at times. I think he can play/contribute for sure.. just don't know if it will ever be more than 10-16min a game.

My dream would be Williams comes back and we play our small 4 guard lineup with a transfer/Rick. Then guys like Vic/Hill come off bench.

That's not a dream. That's a nightmare.
 
Looks like OU got both Harkless and Gibson in mid-April last year... April 13th was the announcement for Gibson, and April 14th was the announcement for Harkless.

So we will know next years team in the next 30-40 days.
 
I think Manek will be back. Just my own opinion.
 
I think Manek will be back. Just my own opinion.

That would be a horrible financial decision by him.... He can go make some really nice money in Europe and get on with his life. I can't think of a single thing he gains by coming back, other than just loving to play college hoops.
 
That would be a horrible financial decision by him.... He can go make some really nice money in Europe and get on with his life. I can't think of a single thing he gains by coming back, other than just loving to play college hoops.

Really? Do you honestly think he has reached his ceiling? He struggled mightily after getting COVID-19. If he comes back, averages 16-18 PPG, you don't think he'll get better offers than he would right now?
 
Respectfully, I must have missed those games.....and I watched every game this year.

I went back and checked box scores and admittedly I misremembered. He did have some good minutes against xu, hbu, tech, ku, tcu.
 
That would be a horrible financial decision by him.... He can go make some really nice money in Europe and get on with his life. I can't think of a single thing he gains by coming back, other than just loving to play college hoops.

Are you sure he wants to play overseas? It isn’t for everyone.
 
Really? Do you honestly think he has reached his ceiling? He struggled mightily after getting COVID-19. If he comes back, averages 16-18 PPG, you don't think he'll get better offers than he would right now?

Yea he has reached his ceiling... He's been basically the same guy for 4 years.

  • He's played 24-30 minutes a game for 4 years
  • Averaged 10, then 12, then 14, then 12..
  • 38% from 3... then 36% from 3... Then 38% from 3... Then 36% from 3 again
  • 5.2 RPG, 6 RPG, 6 RPG, 5.1 RPG...
  • 46, 45, 46, 43 percent from the field

He has nothing left to show... I think he's great. It's so rare for someone to put up nearly identical numbers for 4 years. Any coach would love to have him... but he isn't going to come back and show much else.

If he comes back it will be because he isn't ready to leave school or just loves playing at OU...
 
Are you sure he wants to play overseas? It isn’t for everyone.


He's obviously a small town boy and some things are not for everyone. He might not feel mature enough or safe enough at this point to move on. We are talking about a human here and not a stalk of corn. I figure we both know this, but the same cannot be said for others.
 
Really? Do you honestly think he has reached his ceiling? He struggled mightily after getting COVID-19. If he comes back, averages 16-18 PPG, you don't think he'll get better offers than he would right now?

Better offers from who/where? He's not going to play in the NBA. It's overseas if he wants to get paid. After 4 years his game is not going to get much better after another year.
 
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