Yes they are required to sit out but it hasn't been the norm recently especially with coaching changes. I promise you no AD is filling out paper work! I also guarantee without providing the evidence that Houston has fought this!
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Yes they are required to sit out but it hasn't been the norm recently especially with coaching changes. I promise you no AD is filling out paper work! I also guarantee without providing the evidence that Houston has fought this!
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Okay?!
Unnecessary post. Vbdad seems to know that of which he speaks. It may blow your Kelvin Sampson ideology, but that is not relevant here.
Stop there.
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He has been spot on with info. Quit being SoonerFanTU...
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Good one.
He isn't the only guy that has connections or knows people around the program. I never said Houston wasn't fighting it. They probably are, and I don't blame them. This transfer isn't about the coaching change, it's about the stuff the poster brought up the other day about the guy's dad, and the transfer to Oregon, and all the unrest with the program over the last couple of seasons. I simply said it wasn't Kelvin's decision to fight this. I'll leave it at that.
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No one, including me, said it was Kelvin's decision. I agree he would not act on his own without the AD's involvement. The reverse is also true. No AD worth his salt would pursue an action against a former player without consulting the head coach.
No one really knows what role Kelvin played in blocking Tashawn's attempt to get his waiver. That's why I prefaced my thoughts above with "my guess is..." before offering what was nothing more than an opinion.
As for vbdad, he has been spot on with most of the information he has posted on this board the past couple of years or so. He has also shared a few things with me by PM that were never brought up for discussion. The fact that he was right in every instance proved to me that he is a credible source.
The idea that a school can fight it just boggles my mind. Now obviously if asked, they should be able to say we agree or disagree with the reasons he's citing for leaving, but past that they shouldn't have any standing to argue with it.
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To be clear, what was his issue on transferring? That Kelvin got in trouble with the NCAA years ago?
Sorry, but if you take a step back...as much as I would like him to be eligible...that's a pretty far reach on a waiver. I hate the rule on transfers, especially when a coach leaves, but I just don't see it happening. The info provided previously from Houston's perspective doesn't shed Thomas transfer in a very solid light.
This is a unique situation b/c Kelvin used to coach here. If the roles were reversed lets say for Buddy Hield, most would be clamoring for him to sit out a year. Lets also not compare this to the Kelvin/Capel change when it came to recruits, unfulfilled LOIs are a completely different story and precedent.
Hope it works out in our favor, but I can see why it won't.
Sorry, but if you take a step back...as much as I would like him to be eligible...that's a pretty far reach on a waiver. I hate the rule on transfers, especially when a coach leaves, but I just don't see it happening. The info provided previously from Houston's perspective doesn't shed Thomas transfer in a very solid light.
This is a unique situation b/c Kelvin used to coach here. If the roles were reversed lets say for Buddy Hield, most would be clamoring for him to sit out a year. Lets also not compare this to the Kelvin/Capel change when it came to recruits, unfulfilled LOIs are a completely different story and precedent.
Hope it works out in our favor, but I can see why it won't.
I have no idea what is going to happen with Thomas, but Vbdad seems to be right on with most of his information. Also, I could care less whether Kelvin wins or loses at Houston. His ship sailed a long time ago and everyone should remember he chose to cheat at OU and then repeated it at IU.
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I don't think you would see many OU fans demanding a kid sit out a year. I just haven't seen many vindictive OU fans.
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I don't see unfulfilled LOI any different. The contact signed stated that the university is promising the player a scholarship for the next year. That is the same thing that Houston has promised Thomas. Remember scholorships are typically only one year (that is how OSU player became eligible because the school denied him a scholarship for 2014-15). And both the player on campus and LOI signers are being counted on by the coach to be there. Its not like they are over signing every year thinking a kid will ask out of his LOI.
I am not saying there is never a reason to let a kid out of a LOI, but its really not that different then a playerthat was already on campus.
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I mean no disrespect because you and I were against the world about 3 years ago on this website, but I disagree with you here about Kelvin. I still appreciate what he did in Norman and can remember when his program was THE flagship program of the entire OU athletic department.
The mistakes he made are no longer even illegal. He was hung out to dry by the AD, IMO. Had he not been about to catch and possibly surpass KU in the Big 12, he probably never gets in trouble. Ole Roy had it out for him...
As far as Thomas is concerned, I think we need to wait to hang Kelvin until all the facts are released. Like Campbest said, we would all be upset if Buddy transferred somewhere and were immediately eligible. That being said, I hope Thomas is able to play for us this year. We could really use him.
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Keyword: precedent.
95% of the time a new coach/school is going to release a kid from his LOI if there is a coaching change due to 1.) new coach doesn't want him or 2.) bad rep within the coaching fraternity. What coach wouldn't want someone like Thomas when they arrive? All-conference upper classmen are hard to find at a new job.
It's pretty apparent if the info from Houston is correct, this is a much different story than a LOI/coaching change situation.
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Guess we disagree, I feel most OU basketball fans would want their star player to, follow the rule, and sit out a year.
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Isn't Thompson playing this year for Utah? I know its football, but he did not sit out a year. Played against OSU for OU last year and played for Utah this year. ((((NEVER MIND- JUST DID RESEARCH AND SAW HE GRADUATED IN 3 YEARS ALLOWING THE TRANSFER)))
But I am not going to say I wouldn't be upset if our player did that, I would be, but when Capel was removed from the position, would we have held a player to the transfer rule? Did anyone leave?
I honestly don't think the NCAA is going to allow him to play this year.
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Thompson had already graduated with eligibility remaining so could transfer without penalty.
I appreciate what Kelvin did while at OU. No feeling one way or another now.
Good to see you posting, Booger. Anyway, I completely agree with everything you said in your post. Sampson did great things for the basketball program at OU. Then, as soon as he's accused of sending too many texts to recruits, some (possibly many) Sooner fans wanted him gone and were ready to send him to the gallows. I simply don't understand it. I'm sorry an OU coach broke an NCAA rule, but I can't let that one incident change my entire attitude about what he did to make OU a great basketball program in the late 90s-early 2000s.
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The majority of those fans who wanted Sampson gone and sent to the gallows felt that way long before he was found to have broken a rule, for he had committed the unpardonable sin of not being the second coming of Billy Tubbs.
The violation of since-overturned NCAA rules was just a convenient new hook to hang the hate on.
Very true! The offense was boring, boring, boring. Never mind that the defense was exceptional.
