Tayshawn Thomas news

[vbdad]

You're saying Kelvin fought this? That surprises me if true. My understanding is he has no hard feelings about his time here. That's from sources as good as they get.

I have no idea what his feelings are towards OU but Houston has opposed the waiver!

 

[hoopsaustin]

What a douche

 

[jerry]

Remember Kelvin chose to cheat while at OU. His decision not his employer!!

 

[JBaker]

So we basically have next to no chance.

 

[WaymanFan]

So we basically have next to no chance.

Not necessarily. If the NCAA still wants to twist the dagger on Sampson, they'll grant the waiver. If all is forgiven, they won't. I still think it's 50/50.

 

[usedtobe1]

How he feels about ou is not the issue, as I understand it. He wasn't happy with the way Thomas went about his transfer.

He and Houston are fighting against the waiver for immediate eligibility. I know this for a fact.

He doesn't give a damn about helping ou out, though. He will be competing with ou for players in the Houston/Texas region, so he isn't going to be a fan of our program.

Yeah, I understand Kelvin thought TaShawn was going to meet with him before deciding to transfer, but they never met. That upset Kelvin. I kind of understand Kelvin's position but I also understand that Thomas decided he didn't need to meet because he didn't want to play for the guy.

 

[skyvue]

If I were a Houston fan, I'd find that frustrating. I certainly found it frustrating when Sampson's recruits gave Capel the go-by.

But Kelvin's a big boy; he needs to do the right thing.

 

[Max Power]

If I were a Houston fan, I'd find that frustrating. I certainly found it frustrating when Sampson's recruits gave Capel the go-by.

But Kelvin's a big boy; he needs to do the right thing.

yes, but who decides what is right. I want Thomas to play and OU feels immediate eligibility is right, however looking at it from Houston's point of view, Thomas didn't even give Kelvin the Time of day and that was wrong of him. Lots of gray area in this one.

That said, I hope the NCAA lets him play this year

 

[skyvue]

yes, but who decides what is right. I want Thomas to play and OU feels immediate eligibility is right, however looking at it from Houston's point of view, Thomas didn't even give Kelvin the Time of day and that was wrong of him. Lots of gray area in this one.

That said, I hope the NCAA lets him play this year

What's gained by punishing Thomas? Where's the benefit for Houston/Sampson?

OU made it as easy as they could for the players Sampson had signed when he left. Nothing's gained by petulance and holding a grudge.

 

[WTSooner]

IF Houston is fighting this, I'm guessing it has more to do with their AD than it does Kelvin.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

Yeah, I understand Kelvin thought TaShawn was going to meet with him before deciding to transfer, but they never met. That upset Kelvin. I kind of understand Kelvin's position but I also understand that Thomas decided he didn't need to meet because he didn't want to play for the guy.

A 50 year old man being butthurt about what a college kid does, especially a good kid by all accounts, is pretty damning to my opinion of sampson

 

[CoachTalk]

Gruley taking $4k for autographs investigation was done in 2 days... Its not a priority to the NCAA, so they do what they want.

 

[pnkranger]

This whole process is just proof positive that the NCAA absolutely does not have players' interests in mind.

 

[AdaSooner]

IF Houston is fighting this, I'm guessing it has more to do with their AD than it does Kelvin.

Maybe so, but I doubt if the AD would act on his own without Kelvin's consent. Even if he did, KS could still influence the outcome, if that's what he wanted to do. My guess is he was hacked that he never got a chance to convince Thomas to stay at UH, and this is his way of getting revenge.

And, for what? To force the kid to redshirt this season, because that's all blocking the waiver will accomplish. Over the long haul, however, it could and likely will create a riff between OU and UH, not to mention the fact that Kelvin will lose the respect of fans who remember him fondly. Sure, there were some hurt feelings and hacked off fans who were not happy when he got the program in trouble with the NCAA. I was one of them. But, most of that was forgotten two years ago when he was welcomed back at the alumni reunion with a standing O. I was there, the response he got was genuine.

None of that may matter to him now or in the future. But burning bridges is never a good idea when you'll lose more than you win. Assuming Kelvin is part and parcel to what UH is doing, this is about pride, nothing more.

 

[WTSooner]

Maybe so, but I doubt if the AD would act on his own without Kelvin's consent.

To me you have that backwards. Kelvin wouldn't act on HIS own without the AD's consent. I don't know how it works exactly, but I'm guessing any paperwork filled out is usually filled out by the AD, not the coach. Certainly the coach isn't making decisions like that with without the okay of the AD.

I just don't see it. Kelvin didn't really know the kid. The AD on the other hand, did. If Kelvin wanted to fight it, and the AD didn't, it wouldn't have been fought. And we don't have any evidence that it even is being fought. Transfers are required to sit out. The transfer has to come up with the reason for an exception to be made. That isn't on Kelvin or the Houston AD.

 

[SoonerTraveler]

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... we don't have any evidence that it even is being fought. Transfers are required to sit out. The transfer has to come up with the reason for an exception to be made. That isn't on Kelvin or the Houston AD.

The voice of reason. This sums up the situation.

 

[trueou]

Isn't Tashawn on schedule to graduate after this year? If the NCAA is truly about the student athlete they will think very hard about forcing a kid to delay graduating just to play basketball. That is probably what they are wrestling with.

 

[oukyle]

Isn't Tashawn on schedule to graduate after this year? If the NCAA is truly about the student athlete they will think very hard about forcing a kid to delay graduating just to play basketball. That is probably what they are wrestling with.

I want Thomas eligible as much as anyone, but graduating next spring/ being eligible this year have nothing to do with one another.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

Isn't Tashawn on schedule to graduate after this year? If the NCAA is truly about the student athlete they will think very hard about forcing a kid to delay graduating just to play basketball. That is probably what they are wrestling with.

 

[Northbase]

Come on Man! Can't you Photoshop her into a Longhorn jersey!!!:facepalm