Woodard

[garyeb2]

Woodard will participate in the Faith 7 game Saturday night. He said he has been back on the court for 3 weeks and declares himself to be 100%. He predicted that he would win the slam dunk contest. He will report in with the Sooners on Sunday. Very good news.

 

[SoonerTraveler]

http://coachesaid.com/article.aspx?id=11461

 

[BigTime]

Thanks for posting

 

[AdaSooner]

Thanks, Gary! I was worried that Jordan may not be healthy and ready to go by the start of the season. If he is indeed 100% and eager to play again, that is definitely good news.

 

[Stikboy]

Yep thanks Gary.

Can anyone who watched it give an update on Woodard's performance? i.e. did he look healthy?

Also, when will we find out if the juco guys can go on the trip? Thx

 

[luckyc1423]

I thought he reported to ou on June 1st?

 

[garyeb2]

I thought he reported to ou on June 1st?

I don't know. I was just passing along news that was passed to me.

 

[Postman77]

June 1st is what Nike guy said. Jordan reports this morning. Nike doesn't know what he is talking about, and is lying about who he says he is. Jordan is healthy again...explosive once more. Shape and conditioning obviously still a factor from being off the court due to rehab, but he is looking good.

 

[garyeb2]

June 1st is what Nike guy said. Jordan reports this morning. Nike doesn't know what he is talking about, and is lying about who he says he is. Jordan is healthy again...explosive once more. Shape and conditioning obviously still a factor from being off the court due to rehab, but he is looking good.

I have an opinion concerning the direction you seem to want to take this thread.

We have lawyers and stockbrokers claiming expertise and asserting that their opinions should be valued higher than non lawyers and stockbrokers. We have long time posters asserting that their opinions have more value than short term posters. We have posters with the best language skills insisting that people of weaker skills have no business having a basketball opinion.

We have people that subscribe to some paid service claiming superiority over those that don't. We have people claiming superior opinions and judgment based on how long ago they saw their 1st OU basketball game. We have some that claim the high ground of final authority based on how many AAU game they watched last summer.

I could go on and on. There is no shortage of posters trying to validate their opinions and arguments by claiming some sort of expertise based on something that bears little relevance to the topic. Whether that expertise is real or imagined should be of no consequence.

Every argument or opinion should stand or fall on it's own merits. Factoring in someone's self submitted resume when determining the strength or weakness of the opinion or argument is probably a mistake in most every case.

I guess that it is none of my business if someone takes on the role of message board Dick Tracey. But, like most topics broached here, I do have an opinion. I wish you had something better to do with your time.

 

[Postman77]

Gary, you misunderstand...you worded your response very well, but i am not talking about inflation of value, I am talking about identity theft. As someone in the profession I know the harm and damage of people destroying years of hard work by misrepresenting and lying in a coach's name. A coach is only as good as his reputation, and therefore that reputation should be guarded against those who would try to steal it. Social media and forums make that doubly dangerous, as it is extremely easy to abuse.
I know that nike is not who he says he is because I was standing with the coach he claims to be yesterday at the obca and faith 7 games when he posted twice. The coach he claims to be doesnt use a cell phone, can't hardly use a computer, and therefore is helpless to defend his identity. According to Nike...he has trouble spelling due to using his phone. Strange, seeing that coach doesn't use.
You are right Gary...go on claiming to have ultimate knowledge, and let the argument then play out. However, don't steal another man's hard earned identity and name. We should all protect against that abuse.

 

[skyvue]

We have long time posters asserting that their opinions have more value than short term posters. We have posters with the best language skills insisting that people of weaker skills have no business having a basketball opinion.

Neither of these is remotely true.

We do have posters who have complained when a poster's responses were so riddled with typos, poor punctuation and lack of capitalization that it was difficult to make sense of them. That's a very different thing than you have described above.

And we have people (well, one person) who have mischaracterized another poster in a way that clearly demonstrated they had no idea about the poster they were defaming. When that happens, it's neither unfair or unreasonable to cite his tenure on the board, simply because there is seemingly be no other explanation for having assessed the other person so inaccurately.

 

[WTSooner]

Gary, you misunderstand...you worded your response very well, but i am not talking about inflation of value, I am talking about identity theft. As someone in the profession I know the harm and damage of people destroying years of hard work by misrepresenting and lying in a coach's name. A coach is only as good as his reputation, and therefore that reputation should be guarded against those who would try to steal it. Social media and forums make that doubly dangerous, as it is extremely easy to abuse.
I know that nike is not who he says he is because I was standing with the coach he claims to be yesterday at the obca and faith 7 games when he posted twice. The coach he claims to be doesnt use a cell phone, can't hardly use a computer, and therefore is helpless to defend his identity. According to Nike...he has trouble spelling due to using his phone. Strange, seeing that coach doesn't use.
You are right Gary...go on claiming to have ultimate knowledge, and let the argument then play out. However, don't steal another man's hard earned identity and name. We should all protect against that abuse.

I don't want to say I told you so.....but I told you so.

It didn't take a seasoned detective to to see the inconsistencies and out-right lies nike was telling.

 

[luckyc1423]

Funny how much some posters believed him and better yet some posters went to the extent of making a statement that makes zero sense
"Even if you don't believe him you are a "fool" not to at least act like you believe him"

 

[garyeb2]

Neither of these is remotely true.

We do have posters who have complained when a poster's responses were so riddled with typos, poor punctuation and lack of capitalization that it was difficult to make sense of them. That's a very different thing than you have described above.

And we have people (well, one person) who have mischaracterized another poster in a way that clearly demonstrated they had no idea about the poster they were defaming. When that happens, it's neither unfair or unreasonable to cite his tenure on the board, simply because there is seemingly be no other explanation for having assessed the other person so inaccurately.

That is your opinion. My opinion is different. My opinion is my compass. Your opinion has no value to me. However, I don't blame you for trying to defend yourself.

 

[garyeb2]

Gary, you misunderstand...you worded your response very well, but i am not talking about inflation of value, I am talking about identity theft. As someone in the profession I know the harm and damage of people destroying years of hard work by misrepresenting and lying in a coach's name. A coach is only as good as his reputation, and therefore that reputation should be guarded against those who would try to steal it. Social media and forums make that doubly dangerous, as it is extremely easy to abuse.
I know that nike is not who he says he is because I was standing with the coach he claims to be yesterday at the obca and faith 7 games when he posted twice. The coach he claims to be doesnt use a cell phone, can't hardly use a computer, and therefore is helpless to defend his identity. According to Nike...he has trouble spelling due to using his phone. Strange, seeing that coach doesn't use.
You are right Gary...go on claiming to have ultimate knowledge, and let the argument then play out. However, don't steal another man's hard earned identity and name. We should all protect against that abuse.

If you are claiming the high ground because your intentions are to protect the integrity of your profession, fine, go ahead. If you are saying that your intentions are different and more honorable than the petty , mean spirited, desperate to be right about anything mullets, fine, go ahead. Like I said, it is probably none of my business anyway.

 

[SoonerTraveler]

If you are claiming the high ground because your intentions are to protect the integrity of your profession, fine, go ahead. If you are saying that your intentions are different and more honorable than the petty , mean spirited, desperate to be right about anything mullets, fine, go ahead. Like I said, it is probably none of my business anyway.

I don’t have a dog in this fight, but I am curious. If, in fact, “Nike” has stolen the identity of a high school coach, then is that “any of your business” on these threads?

Given that a severe accusation has been made, my natural curiosity makes me look forward to the response from Nike. The following was posted as a firsthand account.

...I know that nike is not who he says he is because I was standing with the coach he claims to be yesterday at the obca and faith 7 games when he posted twice. The coach he claims to be doesnt use a cell phone, can't hardly use a computer, and therefore is helpless to defend his identity. According to Nike...he has trouble spelling due to using his phone. Strange, seeing that coach doesn't use.

Unquestionably, no one should steal another person’s identity and name. And yes, we should all protect against that abuse when it occurs.

Has Nike responded to this?

 

[bocabull]

The funny thing is that postman's list of circumstantial evidence how "he knows" nike is not this supposed coach does not include "I asked said coach if he posts on OU Hoops and he didn't know what the hell I was talking about".

lol

As if anybody cares anyway. But while people are looking for the true identity of posters I might as well fess up. I'm stacy dales.

 

[garyeb2]

I don’t have a dog in this fight, but I am curious. If, in fact, “Nike” has stolen the identity of a high school coach, then is that “any of your business” on these threads?

Given that a severe accusation has been made, my natural curiosity makes me look forward to the response from Nike. The following was posted as a firsthand account.



Unquestionably, no one should steal another person’s identity and name. And yes, we should all protect against that abuse when it occurs.

Has Nike responded to this?

I associate identity theft with some sort of criminal activity or fraud. There is certainly no crime here. I certainly don't feel defrauded by someone representing themselves as something other than what they are on a basketball message board. To me, that seems to be a pretty common happening.

Whether or not someone is a high school basketball coach or whether they represent themselves as a high school basketball coach makes no difference to me. A real high school basketball coach or a fake high school basketball coach can be either right or wrong on any topic covered on this message board. As far as the person in question, I have both agreed with him and disagreed with him based on the strength of my own opinions and my evaluation of the strength of his arguments. Whether he is or isn't a high school basketball coach was a total non factor in the position I took.

I'm just not a member of the you lied to me, you hurt my feelings crowd. And yes, one poster going after an other really is none of my business.

 

[SoonerTraveler]

I associate identity theft with some sort of criminal activity or fraud. There is certainly no crime here. I certainly don't feel defrauded by someone representing themselves as something other than what they are on a basketball message board. To me, that seems to be a pretty common happening.

Whether or not someone is a high school basketball coach or whether they represent themselves as a high school basketball coach makes no difference to me. A real high school basketball coach or a fake high school basketball coach can be either right or wrong on any topic covered on this message board. As far as the person in question, I have both agreed with him and disagreed with him based on the strength of my own opinions and my evaluation of the strength of his arguments. Whether he is or isn't a high school basketball coach was a total non factor in the position I took.

I'm just not a member of the you lied to me, you hurt my feelings crowd. And yes, one poster going after an other really is none of my business.

Reading through the threads I am unable to discern which poster is a member of the “you hurt my feelings crowd.” I see strong differences of opinion, but I do not see that.

No worries. Certainly, no one is going to be arrested or going to jail by falsely claiming to be Coach XYZ, formerly of Carnegie High School, that won State Championships in such-and-such years. However, to do so would be a pitiful act. The real victim would be the actual coach. I would be very pi$$ed if someone was doing that to me.

 

[garyeb2]

Reading through the threads I am unable to discern which poster is a member of the “you hurt my feelings crowd.” I see strong differences of opinion, but I do not see that.

No worries. Certainly, no one is going to be arrested or going to jail by falsely claiming to be Coach XYZ, formerly of Carnegie High School, that won State Championships in such-and-such years. However, to do so would be a pitiful act. The real victim would be the actual coach. I would be very pi$$ed if someone was doing that to me.

Fine. But, here is the thing. I didn't have any idea who this person is or claims to be or where he coached or didn't coach until you just posted it.

I know that by reading along some people did know or googled it and found out. I didn't. I didn't care. And sure, if someone was on a message board saying they were me and posting things that cast me in a bad light. I would be upset too. I prefer to do that all on my own. What I am not grasping here is why any 3rd party could give a damn one way or the other. And my suspicions are that the outrage by some is purely agenda driven.