WVU receives a formal invitation to join the Big 12

[bocabull]

If you're going to spout crap like this (on a basketball forum, no less), at least be accurate.

Mizzou's more than held its own on the basketball court, with OU or anyone else, for decades.

Missouri has lost to OU 112 times in our 207 meetings and you call that more than holding your own.

Your standards are embarrassingly low but at least they match you accomplishments!!!

 

[AdaSooner]

Count me among those who like this pick, but not the decision to cap the number at ten. Nothing about adding one team way out in Wonderful West Virginia makes sense to me, unless you have a plan to bring in two more from that area later on.

The Commish said sometime ago that he would rather stop at ten, but he's a danged fool if he thinks this is going to work. This is one time he would be wise to contact Nick for advice, because the Zepper has it right.

 

[stoops4pres]

Boren really miss handled this conference expansion stuff. He made OU look dumb with the Pac Ten stuff. He then made OU look bad with the we prefer Louisville stuff. For the most part I think Boren has done an excellent job at OU; however, he has made two major mistakes. The first was promoting the club level at the stadium as including alcohol sales and then claiming that was never part of the deal. That was a blatant lie. I read the promotional materials and they built bars on the club level. This is the second. He just made OU look bad to the public.

What ramifications occurred because of this? I don't know any details about this deal in the first place.

 

[Sid]

I would like to extend a warm welcome to the WV Mountaineers. Welcome to the Big 12 WAC conference. When DeLoss is ready to add 2 teams to the Big 12 WAC conference, he will.

Come and listen to a story about a man named Jed
A poor mountaineer, barely kept his family fed,
Then one day he was shootin at some food,
And up through the ground came a bubblin crude.
Oil that is, black gold, Texas tea.
Well the first thing you know ol Jed's a millionaire,
Kinfolk said Jed move away from there
Said Californy is the place you ought to be
So they loaded up the truck and moved to Beverly.
Hills, that is. Swimmin pools, movie stars.

 

[boksooner]

Count me among those who like this pick, but not the decision to cap the number at ten. Nothing about adding one team way out in Wonderful West Virginia makes sense to me, unless you have a plan to bring in two more from that area later on.

The Commish said sometime ago that he would rather stop at ten, but he's a danged fool if he thinks this is going to work. This is one time he would be wise to contact Nick for advice, because the Zepper has it right.

I got the impression that they were capping at 10 for next season, not forever.

 

[thebigabd]

I don't think the proximity is that big a deal. I looked up plane costs on Kayak and flights are pretty similar from Ames to Austin as Morgantown to OKC. Either way these guys get on a plane half the time, and the other half they play on their home field.

Heck, WVU should just schedule locally during the non-con.

SCHEDULE
Pitt
Marshall
UCONN
Kentucky
@Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
@Texas Tech
Texas
@Iowa State
Kansas
@Kansas State
Baylor
@TCU

That gives them 8 out of 12 games at home. They could schedule all non-conference games at home if they wanted. If they go on the road, play Marshall. Play Pitt. There are tons of options in their area.

Not a big deal at all. A huge chunk of their season will be at home.

 

[AdaSooner]

I got the impression that they were capping at 10 for next season, not forever.

You may be right. As I understand it, WVU will not be able to leave the Big East for something like 27 months. Is that correct? If so, a lot could happen in the next two years or so.

But if there is any thought of bringing in Louisville or a Cincy, seems to me the Big 12 should let them know soon, so they will have plenty of time to notify their own conference. I'm hoping Neinas does not adopt the slow-to-act mode of operation his predecessors were known for and wait until the best schools available have gone another route.

One has to believe that if the Big 12 HQ had done its job, schools like Nebraska, CU and A&M would not have to be replaced. Maybe I'm wrong and nothing could have saved those schools, short of giving away the farm to make them happy.

 

[tycat947]

The proximity is going to affect WVU MUCH, MUCH more than any of the other Big 12 schools. In football, we'll have one trip to Morgantown every two years. In other sports it will be our one out of the way trip in each sport. WVU will be going back and forth, back and forth, all the time. All their additional revenue from joining Big 12 will be eat up by travel!!!

 

[bocabull]

One has to believe that if the Big 12 HQ had done its job, schools like Nebraska, CU and A&M would not have to be replaced. Maybe I'm wrong and nothing could have saved those schools, short of giving away the farm to make them happy.

Nebraska could not stay with the southern schools from a talent perspective. They want to win and the Big Ten gives them a better opportunity to do so.

Colorado has a large alumni base on the west coast and is in the mountain time zone. They always belonged in the PAC.

Those 2 moves make sense for everybody involved. A&M and Missouri just want respect they can't earn so they are making headlines by changing conferences. The SEC will regret taking them.

 

[dubyac]

WVU is joining July 1st 2012... same intro schedule at TCU... i'd expect Louisville and Cincinatti to join July 1st 2013... and the big twelve will once again be numerically correct...

 

[stoops4pres]

Nebraska could not stay with the southern schools from a talent perspective. They want to win and the Big Ten gives them a better opportunity to do so.

Colorado has a large alumni base on the west coast and is in the mountain time zone. They always belonged in the PAC.

Those 2 moves make sense for everybody involved. A&M and Missouri just want respect they can't earn so they are making headlines by changing conferences. The SEC will regret taking them.

Hard to disagree with this. Pretty spot-on.

 

[AdaSooner]

WVU is joining July 1st 2012... same intro schedule at TCU... i'd expect Louisville and Cincinatti to join July 1st 2013... and the big twelve will once again be numerically correct...

Thanks, dubyac! Sounds like a good plan. Can we assume your information came from a reliable source?

 

[Sawyer]

Nebraska could not stay with the southern schools from a talent perspective. They want to win and the Big Ten gives them a better opportunity to do so.

Colorado has a large alumni base on the west coast and is in the mountain time zone. They always belonged in the PAC.

Those 2 moves make sense for everybody involved. A&M and Missouri just want respect they can't earn so they are making headlines by changing conferences. The SEC will regret taking them.

If proximity to alumni is a factor, there are more MU graduates living in SEC states than Big 12 states.

Missouri's 20+ year focus on the Big 10 wasn't about respect. That never had anything to do with it. The move to the SEC is purely about stability. Respect only mattered as much as it matters in any functional family, and the Big 12 is decidedly dysfunctional.

Brady Deaton tried harder than anyone to save the Big 12. It didn't work. The problems that drove four teams away and make it attractive only to teams with no where else to go persist.

Boren wanted Louisville. Most of the remaining Big 12 wanted to get back to 12. But UT didn't in either case. They ultimately made the call. If that's the conference you want to be in, have fun while it lasts.

 

[kellensooner]

If that's the conference you want to be in, have fun while it lasts.

That sounded like a goodbye. :clap

 

[stoops4pres]

If proximity to alumni is a factor, there are more MU graduates living in SEC states than Big 12 states.

Missouri's 20+ year focus on the Big 10 wasn't about respect. That never had anything to do with it. The move to the SEC is purely about stability. Respect only mattered as much as it matters in any functional family, and the Big 12 is decidedly dysfunctional.

Brady Deaton tried harder than anyone to save the Big 12. It didn't work. The problems that drove four teams away and make it attractive only to teams with no where else to go persist.

Boren wanted Louisville. Most of the remaining Big 12 wanted to get back to 12. But UT didn't in either case. They ultimately made the call. If that's the conference you want to be in, have fun while it lasts.

Colorado's circumstance and Mizzou's is apples-to-oranges.

 

[bocabull]

The Big XII is only called dysfunctional by the losers. OU, Texas, Kansas, Okie State, etc think it's just fine. Missouri accomplished nothing in the Big XII and will accomplish nothing in the SEC.

Now run along sawyer, you have been replaced by a far superior program and everybody knows it.

I really gotta agree with Vitale. We're sick of hearing about Missouri. If this sawyer clown wasn't over here nobody would even mention Missouri. Notice how Ada did not list Missouri when questioning the league commish? lol

 

[NickZepp]

WVU is joining July 1st 2012... same intro schedule at TCU... i'd expect Louisville and Cincinatti to join July 1st 2013... and the big twelve will once again be numerically correct...

This is probably correct. Scheduling may be the reason they aren't all coming in at once.

 

[Sawyer]

The Big XII is only called dysfunctional by the teams with options.

fixed it for you.

Kansas state, Iowa State and Baylor are the only schools that didn't actively look for options, and that's only because they knew there was no hope. Everyone else tried to get out and failed.

The Big 12 has lost teams to the Pac, the Big 10 and the SEC. No one ever even considered the possibility that a school from those conferences would join the Big 12. Why? That should tell you something.

 

[AdaSooner]

fixed it for you.

Kansas state, Iowa State and Baylor are the only schools that didn't actively look for options, and that's only because they knew there was no hope. Everyone else tried to get out and failed.

The Big 12 has lost teams to the Pac, the Big 10 and the SEC. No one ever even considered the possibility that a school from those conferences would join the Big 12. Why? That should tell you something.

Good grief, Sawyer. Quit trying to justify Missouri's decision to leave the Big 12. That's not your style, plus it's an argument you're not going to win. Nor will you prove that the Big 12 Conference is dysfunctional. As long as schools like UT, OU, OSU, KU and Baylor remain on board, the conference will be just fine. With the addition of TCU and WVU to go along with ISU, TTU and K-State, the conference will thrive, with or without MU.

For my part, though, I hope Missouri stays.

 

[thebigabd]

fixed it for you.

Kansas state, Iowa State and Baylor are the only schools that didn't actively look for options, and that's only because they knew there was no hope. Everyone else tried to get out and failed.

The Big 12 has lost teams to the Pac, the Big 10 and the SEC. No one ever even considered the possibility that a school from those conferences would join the Big 12. Why? That should tell you something.

Mizzou got rejected by the Big 10 and has been begging the SEC for two years. I love how you make it sound like the offers were just rolling in for Mizzou right off the bat.

You got your wish, you're gonna go get rolled in the SEC and be even more forgettable than you are now, and the Big 12 got an upgrade in West Virginia.

They also got an upgrade over Texas A&M in football.

TCU
2010: 13-0
2009: 12-1
2008: 11-2
2007: 8-5
2006: 11-2
2005: 11-1

A&M
2010: 9-4
2009: 6-7
2008: 4-8
2007: 7-6
2006: 9-4
2005: 5-6