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[aaron7]

Keep spinning.

Keep spinning what. If you want a completely unbiased opinion on OU basketball, don't come to the OU basketball board.

 

[WTSooner]

Keep spinning what. If you want a completely unbiased opinion on OU basketball, don't come to the OU basketball board.

Gotcha.

So those wanting to keep Capel are biased.

Finally makes sense.

 

[colston15]

Gotcha.

So those wanting to keep Capel are biased.

Finally makes sense.

I know I am. I like to see coaches at OU succeed. I'm rooting for Jeff and the team.

 

[StoopsBros]

Gotcha.

So those wanting to keep Capel are biased.

Finally makes sense.

:clap...they also believe in moral victories and overachieving teams that have only beat a total of 4 decent teams.

 

[StatGeek]

Capel did a great job in a very tough situation. People can blame him all they want but put Tiny Gallon on this team instead of Nick Thompson and we are progably finishing in the top 5 of the Big XII and heading to the dance.

Even after totally rebuilding our roster in the middle of the night we were an eyelash from being 17-14 overall and 8-9 in Big XII play (Chaminade, @OSU, Nebraska should have all been wins).

If Joe C gets rid of Capel it will just be another sad chapter in Oklahoma, right up there with being the only state in the nation where every single county voted for Sarah Palin. I really wonder if that has something to do with the Capel situation because all this venom against him seemed to begin when he talked some politics with his team prior to the 2008 elections.

I always knew you were mentally challenged, next time leave politics out of the discussion. Thanks

 

[aaron7]

Gotcha.

So those wanting to keep Capel are biased.

Finally makes sense.

I would say the bias goes both ways. Numerous posters that want him fired have admitted they didn't want him in the first place. I think that shows much more bias than wanting your team to be better than the talent will allow.

 

[StoopsBros]

So now the only people that want Capel gone are Palin-backers? Wow, I've seen it all.

 

[bocabull]

not exactly... you could also say every single county voted against obama, or against hillary... or also that they voted for mccain.... just sayin...

That is true dubyac, so the question is how much of this venom directed at Capel is due to that fact.

Because seriously, we lost 4 McDonalds AAs in 2 years, on top of losing the entire class that would have been seniors last year (Reynolds, James), on top of just getting off probation. Those combined events have never happened before.

Where we are right now taking all of those circumstances into account are pretty impressive. If we land Jurick & Cezar, combined with what we have we are going to be NCAA bound next year and conference championship Sweet 16 caliber the next year.

It just makes no sense to abandon ship unless Capel can be connected in any fashion to the Gallon money connection. You just don't release a coach that shows up at 5 am everyday and is a perfect representative of the University with as many skins on the wall as Capel has at his age.

 

[StoopsBros]

I would say the bias goes both ways. Numerous posters that want him fired have admitted they didn't want him in the first place. I think that shows much more bias than wanting your team to be better than the talent will allow.

I wouldn't agree. I'm one of those posters that never wanted Capel here in the first place. It wasn't or isn't because I don't like Capel. That's far from the case. He was one of my favorites players growing up. He didn't have the experience necessary to coach here and that's becoming more evident by the day. Maybe I hold the OU job in higher regard and thought/think that we deserve more. That's it. I'll never, ever cheer for an OU loss or against the OU on the chest, ever. If we're being biased, I think it's because half of us think OU could do much, much better. The other half is settling on the status quo, IMO.

 

[dubyac]

That is true dubyac, so the question is how much of this venom directed at Capel is due to that fact.

Because seriously, we lost 4 McDonalds AAs in 2 years, on top of losing the entire class that would have been seniors last year (Reynolds, James), on top of just getting off probation. Those combined events have never happened before.

Where we are right now taking all of those circumstances into account are pretty impressive. If we land Jurick & Cezar, combined with what we have we are going to be NCAA bound next year and conference championship Sweet 16 caliber the next year.

It just makes no sense to abandon ship unless Capel can be connected in any fashion to the Gallon money connection. You just don't release a coach that shows up at 5 am everyday and is a perfect representative of the University with as many skins on the wall as Capel has at his age.

i dont see a connection... i voted mccain and i also vote capel... i like the optimism in the rest of your post...

 

[okcsooner83]

NCAA bound next year? OU will be picked in the bottom half of the league. Where is the talent to be an ncaa team?

 

[Max Power]

If you ask boca the talent is getting rid of Cade. He says it will be addition by subtraction

 

[bocabull]

NCAA bound next year? OU will be picked in the bottom half of the league. Where is the talent to be an ncaa team?

We were very close to being 7-9 in conference this season. If you add Jurick, Goff, Osby and Cezar to all our returning players I expect nothing less than a winning record in the conference. A winning record in the Big XII virtually always results in a trip to the dance.

 

[JHop71]

I think this team achieved about what I expected them to achieve. They lost some games I thought they would win and they won some games I thought they would lose. The big thing to me was that they improved throughout the season (as was expected/hoped for). I think those of you who think this team overachieved are being influenced by 2 factors: 1. last year's team severely UNDERachieved; 2. last year's team declined throughout the season. It is indisputable that this team has done the same with less than last year's team. That doesn't necessarily mean this team overreached, it means last year's team REALLY sucked! Before the season, most fans just wanted to see this team play hard and improve, for the most part, they did. Translation...met expectations.

I think WTSooner makes a good point - this team has met (in some cases, failed to meet) expectations from before the season. However, once we actually saw this team play, we realized how bad they were, and we adjusted our expectations. They have exceeded those early season expectations because they have improved (which was part of the pre-season expectations). In the end, this board (along with every other fanbase) is too fickle and this is an argument of semantics.

I think we can all agree that the win last night was totally unexpected, thoroughly enjoyable, and made us all very proud and hopeful.

 

[NMSooner'80]

FWIW, this team came a LOT closer to meeting its potential than last year's did. I feel bad for the kids on this year's team who were held to a standard that wasn't their fault. I'm guessing that the '09-10 team may set its own standard - the least-liked OU team among its fan base in school history.

But, I also don't like back-to-back losing seasons, either.

 

[BanjoCharley]

on top of losing the entire class that would have been seniors last year (Reynolds, James),

Sorry, T Crock would disagree with that statement, though altered facts are the norm around here not the exception.

 

[AdaSooner]

I'm not going to waste time reading this thread to see how (or who) brought politics into the picture. I'll simply say that it needs to stop, now. Thanks in advance!

The thought of where Capel stands on political matters never entered my mind, just as I don't give a tinker's damn if he is white, black, yellow or pretty in pink. He was hired to coach the basketball team and to continue a proud tradition that Sooner fans have enjoyed for thirty years or more, and that's what I expect him to do. Nothing more, nothing less. Any notion that politics has a single thing to do with the way I feel about the job Coach Capel has done is pure nonsense.

On personal level, I couldn't ask for a better coach. He's likeable, articulate and professional in every way. Unfortunately, there is more to coaching than looking and sounding good in front of a camera.

 

[WTSooner]

I would say the bias goes both ways. Numerous posters that want him fired have admitted they didn't want him in the first place. I think that shows much more bias than wanting your team to be better than the talent will allow.

Doesn't apply to me. I couldn't have been much more excited about him when he was first hired.

 

[Section31]

I think we can all agree that the win last night was totally unexpected, thoroughly enjoyable, and made us all very proud and hopeful.

I think you are flat wrong. As has been mentioned, the ONLY people that TOTALLY expected us to lose either A) didn't watch the first two meetings B) haven't watched Baylor play very much this season C) despise Capel...

 

[aaron7]

I think you are flat wrong. As has been mentioned, the ONLY people that TOTALLY expected us to lose either A) didn't watch the first two meetings B) haven't watched Baylor play very much this season C) despise Capel...

Yep