Austin Grandstaff to DePaul, not OU

Cousins was a similar under-the-radar late signing. Would you now say he was an impact player?

Again, I'm not the one making guarantees about Shepard's career. WT did that, in a negative sense (relative to Grandstaff, anyway). I just object to any poster claiming he knows what lies ahead for any young player, including Shepard. These pronouncements regarding what what a player will achieve (or not) are almost proffered by those who embrace recruiting rankings as if they are sacred texts delivered from on high.

Hornbeak played a lot more than him as a freshman though so Cousins being the late bloomer had very little impact as a freshman. I can't predict how well any player is going to turn out but Grandstaff is a solid player that was not going to lose minutes to Shepherd next year.

I think Shepherd will have a lot harder time finding minutes than Cousins ever did. I don't see him playing to much next year and if we land Young or another highly talented PG, you are looking at maybe 2 years of him not playing much.
 
I hope Austin's dad finds what he's looking for at DePaul as well.

You are likely getting bad information.

Just like the folks that said he wanted to be closer to home.

There are a few stories, and people just run with them. I personally don't think his father had anything to do with him leaving OU.
 
You are likely getting bad information.
You have your sources. I have mine.

I would've enjoyed Grandstaff as a Sooner, but it didn't work out. There are only so many high schools, and there are only so many colleges. Time marches on.
 
You are likely getting bad information.

Just like the folks that said he wanted to be closer to home.

There are a few stories, and people just run with them. I personally don't think his father had anything to do with him leaving OU.

It's also possible you don't know what you're talking about. Grandstaff was given the opportunity to be part of the team at OU, and he didn't live up to his end of the bargain as a student athlete. Now he's off to his third school in the past year or so. That alone should tell you something about why he is no longer at OU.

I was anxious to see Austin in the C&C, because I felt he had the potential to add a nice piece to our rotation this season. Unfortunately, it didn't work out that way. Best of luck to the young man! Hopefully he'll find what he is looking for at his next stop.
 
It's also possible you don't know what you're talking about. Grandstaff was given the opportunity to be part of the team at OU, and he didn't live up to his end of the bargain as a student athlete. Now he's off to his third school in the past year or so. That alone should tell you something about why he is no longer at OU.

I was anxious to see Austin in the C&C, because I felt he had the potential to add a nice piece to our rotation this season. Unfortunately, it didn't work out that way. Best of luck to the young man! Hopefully he'll find what he is looking for at his next stop.

So what exactly about my statement that him leaving OU wasn't about his dad, did you just disprove? I agree with you on the reason he left, which wasn't his dad.

So many people around here so quick to jump on someone, that they don't even read and understand the posts they are responding too. smh
 
So what exactly about my statement that him leaving OU wasn't about his dad, did you just disprove? I agree with you on the reason he left, which wasn't his dad.

So many people around here so quick to jump on someone, that they don't even read and understand the posts they are responding too. smh

But then you make it so easy. :ez-laugh:
 
But then you make it so easy. :ez-laugh:

Yes, I made it so easy by:

1. Suggesting a 4*, top 50 prospect would be a better player than a kid ranked well outside the top 100 (I believe).

2. Agreeing with Ada that it's stuff Grandstaff did off the court that got him shown the door, and not something to do with his father.

So. Freakin'. Easy. You nailed it.
 
Shepard was being recruited before the guys were removed from the team. The coaches felt they needed another possible point guard. I don't know who is the better player but Grandstaff proved he couldn't be part of the program which is more important than absolute talent. He is a very good shooter. Not so sure about the rest of his game.
 
Almost everyone here was on the Grandstaff bandwagon a few months ago.

You can say what you want but he had a very good chance at starting at the 2/3. We think we have a combo guard who can star in Mcgusty and odomes has been decent but Grandstaff would've def been in mix especially on a team that will struggle to score I think.

James hasn't shown a ton and shepherd is a pg.
Now that AK and Grandstaff are gone I see a lot of down playing of their potential impacts.

Yes I trust Lon to fill the holes and maybe sheperd is a diamond in rough but Grandstaff was a much much better prospect.

He is not a sooner now and that's fine, I wish him best and AK. But I'm very concerned about our roster next year now.

I have visions of Woodard doing it all and struggling. He was really only impactful cuz he was left open when defenders would go to help on Isaiah or Buddy.

Mcgusty, odomes or James must be ready to roll but that's a lot of pressure on young players like that. Who I'm sure will be good in time but sometimes it clicks immediately and other times it doesn't
 
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Yes, I made it so easy by:

1. Suggesting a 4*, top 50 prospect would be a better player than a kid ranked well outside the top 100 (I believe).

You didn't "suggest it" -- you all but guaranteed it with your "No chance" retort.
 
I don't know who is the better player but Grandstaff proved he couldn't be part of the program which is more important than absolute talent.

You don't get it! Recruiting rankings are all that matter! Good character, a strong work ethic, loyalty -- these mean nothing. It's about the stars!
 
James hasn't shown a ton and shepherd is a pg.

I think James has shown quite nicely. And at this point, he has more experience than Grandstaff. I don't know which of the two will prove to be better (I'll let WT double-check their respective number of stars), but I'm very much looking forward to watching James' sophomore season.
 
Disagree on James. Thought he showed out well in big moments at the end of the season and fully expect him to be a really nice player on both ends this year.
 
Yes, I made it so easy by:

1. Suggesting a 4*, top 50 prospect would be a better player than a kid ranked well outside the top 100 (I believe).

2. Agreeing with Ada that it's stuff Grandstaff did off the court that got him shown the door, and not something to do with his father.

So. Freakin'. Easy. You nailed it.

Gee, thanks!!! :D
 
Almost everyone here was on the Grandstaff bandwagon a few months ago.

You can say what you want but he had a very good chance at starting at the 2/3. We think we have a combo guard who can star in Mcgusty and odomes has been decent but Grandstaff would've def been in mix especially on a team that will struggle to score I think.

James hasn't shown a ton and shepherd is a pg.
Now that AK and Grandstaff are gone I see a lot of down playing of their potential impacts.

Yes I trust Lon to fill the holes and maybe sheperd is a diamond in rough but Grandstaff was a much much better prospect.

He is not a sooner now and that's fine, I wish him best and AK. But I'm very concerned about our roster next year now.

I have visions of Woodard doing it all and struggling. He was really only impactful cuz he was left open when defenders would go to help on Isaiah or Buddy.

Mcgusty, odomes or James must be ready to roll but that's a lot of pressure on young players like that. Who I'm sure will be good in time but sometimes it clicks immediately and other times it doesn't

I agree 100%.
 
Almost everyone here was on the Grandstaff bandwagon a few months ago.

You can say what you want but he had a very good chance at starting at the 2/3. We think we have a combo guard who can star in Mcgusty and odomes has been decent but Grandstaff would've def been in mix especially on a team that will struggle to score I think.

James hasn't shown a ton and shepherd is a pg.
Now that AK and Grandstaff are gone I see a lot of down playing of their potential impacts.

Yes I trust Lon to fill the holes and maybe sheperd is a diamond in rough but Grandstaff was a much much better prospect.

He is not a sooner now and that's fine, I wish him best and AK. But I'm very concerned about our roster next year now.

I have visions of Woodard doing it all and struggling. He was really only impactful cuz he was left open when defenders would go to help on Isaiah or Buddy.

Mcgusty, odomes or James must be ready to roll but that's a lot of pressure on young players like that. Who I'm sure will be good in time but sometimes it clicks immediately and other times it doesn't

Wow... Did you watch James last year? He did a lot of good things last year.

Woodard "only" impactful because of buddy and Isiah... Come on Man. Did he get better looks sure.... But buddy got great looks as well bc of isiah and Woodards ability to score and knock down shots.
 
I think there will be some growing pains but that is what makes reloading fun to watch.
 
Wow... Did you watch James last year? He did a lot of good things last year.

Woodard "only" impactful because of buddy and Isiah... Come on Man. Did he get better looks sure.... But buddy got great looks as well bc of isiah and Woodards ability to score and knock down shots.

I'm sorry but James was behind Walker the majority of the year and he only averaged 1.7 ppg. He's proven nothing. I don't care if he had a couple of good games. Grandstaff would have played over Walker last year as a freshman from the beginning.

As for Woodard, he's been able to be the 4th wheel on the team behind Hield, Cousins, and Spangler. He's about to be the main guy with the main defender guarding him. He's no longer going get to open 3's like he has been getting.
 
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