Conference re-alignment tweet

[OUHoops]

Probably trolling but it's the summer so...

@finebaum: According to @ESPN_Colin "The Big 5 in CFB is ready to be the Big 4... BigXII will evaporate, Oklahoma is SEC bound & the Pac12 wants Texas"

 

[BCSooners]

OU and Texas aren't splitting. I bet we'd go west IF this happens

 

[hoopsaustin]

Good. F the big 12 leadership. No balls

 

[usedtobe1]

Boren's recent comments basically is sending a message to the B12 to either expand to at least 12 teams........ or we're gone. I hope we haven't waited too long. Also, can OU go anywhere without dragging OSU along?

Stay tuned. This is going to be fun.

 

[ouboomer]

Boren's recent comments basically is sending a message to the B12 to either expand to at least 12 teams........ or we're gone. I hope we haven't waited too long. Also, can OU go anywhere without dragging OSU along?

Stay tuned. This is going to be fun.

I like Boren coming out and stating this, problem is there is not 2 teams out there not in power conference already that is going to steady the ship. If 4 super conferences form (which seems to be what will likely happen) the only way the Big 12 stays together is to get the football schools of the ACC to jump ship. Adding teams like BYU, Memphis, Cincinnati, Central Florida is not realistic in keeping the Big 12 alive.

 

[usedtobe1]

The B12 messed up by letting Louisville get away. They are a good football team with a great basketball program.

Just think of a 16 team SEC conference with these 8 teams in the west division:
OU
OSU or Texas
A&M
MO
ARK
LSU
MISS
MISS ST

Every game would be a fun game to watch

 

[cvangild]

The B12 messed up by letting Louisville get away. They are a good football team with a great basketball program.

Just think of a 16 team SEC conference with these 8 teams in the west division:
OU
OSU or Texas
A&M
MO
ARK
LSU
MISS
MISS ST

Every game would be a fun game to watch

I totally agree, but you can most likely kiss annual 10+ win seasons goodbye. Some of the people who aren't happy with 10 wins in a season now would be begging for them! It's not that OU couldn't compete, I just think you would see too many high quality teams beating each other up. 10-2 might defintely get you in the playoffs.

 

[WTSooner]

Not gonna happen until whatever it is that expires in 5-6 years, actually expires. Can't remember if it's Big 12 tv rights, or the 1st tier rights, but nobody is going anywhere until then.

I'm torn. I don't think the Big 12 would be that bad if they'd just add a couple of teams. There might not be any homerun teams that are realistic right now, but there are some good teams that would expand our footprint.

Anywhere we go, OSU is going with us. I also don't think it would hurt OU or UT if we ended up in different conferences. Just hope that isn't the end of the RRR.

Edit: And with ESPN pretty much owning UT until 2031, I'm not sure there is a workable way for UT to get to the PAC-12 before then. Excerpt from an article I read this morning:

ESPN pretty much owns Texas athletics until 2031. Therefore, maybe the biggest takeaway here is that Texas’ options shrink significantly if the earth starts moving again in college sports. Unless there’s a workable, as-yet-unknown exit clause in the LHN contract, consider any suggestion of UT heading to the Pac-12 or B1G D.O.A. for the near future.

http://blatanthomerism.com/articles/2015/6/espns-interest-in-the-big-12s-future

 

[thebigabd]

Add BYU and any of the following schools and call it a day:

Houston
Marshall
Central Florida
Memphis

 

[usedtobe1]

Add BYU and any of the following schools and call it a day:

Houston
Marshall
Central Florida
Memphis

I have a problem with adding those kind of schools. It dilutes the quality of the Big 12 and takes teams like OU and Texas down to that level. In my mind, we're better than that.

We're going to end up with 4 super-conferences and I'm afraid the B12 won't be one of them: SEC, B10, PAC ?, and the ACC has passed us by. There may eventually be 16 teams in each conference.

 

[BoulderSooner]

the big 12 made a big mistake adding tcu ... big 12 should have added Louisville and WVU

 

[thebigabd]

I have a problem with adding those kind of schools. It dilutes the quality of the Big 12 and takes teams like OU and Texas down to that level. In my mind, we're better than that.

TCU and Baylor are top 10 football programs now. TCU and Baylor ranked 3 and 5 right now.

Schools "get better" when they enter a major conference... Baylor and TCU are proof of that.

 

[usedtobe1]

I just feel like the B12 dragged its feet for too long and let other conferences cherry pick the better schools. Adding schools like Marshall or Central Florida, we might as well rename the conference the Missouri Valley. We're just putting lipstick on the pig and relegating OU to a 2nd tier conference. The top conferences were proactive whereas the B12 stuck it's head in the sand and has slowly reacted. JMHO.

Time has passed us by.

 

[DenverSooner]

TCU and Baylor are top 10 football programs now. TCU and Baylor ranked 3 and 5 right now.

Schools "get better" when they enter a major conference... Baylor and TCU are proof of that.

Baylor has been in a major conference its entire history and has about 3 good years in the last 30 years.

 

[scrybe]

Baylor has been in a major conference its entire history and has about 3 good years in the last 30 years.

^^^ This.

 

[sperry]

Baylor is good for two reasons. They have a coach who came in and brought in an exciting offense, and OU and Texas have fallen off big time in that time period due to complacency from long tenured head coaches. Neither of these conditions is permanent.


They're a small school in an undesirable place to live. They're new stadium is nice, but it's tiny. They can compete with the likes of OSU, K-State, Iowa State, and Taco Tech. They aren't competing with the big boys in 90,000 person stadiums for long.

 

[thebigabd]

Baylor has been in a major conference its entire history and has about 3 good years in the last 30 years.

Yep, and as long as Art Briles is there they will be good going forward.

 

[OrlandoSooner]

Add BYU and any of the following schools and call it a day:

Houston
Marshall
Central Florida
Memphis

IMO, Central Florida is the most attractive out of that bunch. That might not be saying much. They are the best long-term play out of the group. They are the largest or 2nd largest school in the US and are graduating 10,000 students each year. Their best years are ahead of them. The biggest problem is that they don't have a huge fan base today. It will take time to build the passionate fan base.

I've lived in the Orlando area the last 12 years. For the first half dozen, UCF was just the commuter school that played D1 sports. Within the last 4 or 5 years, I've started seeing more and more UCF stuff on cars as I drive around town. In the past, it seemed that many UCF grads still pulled for UF or FSU. More of the recent grads actually are UCF grads and UCF fans. It may take some time, but the would be a great conference member 10-15 years down the road. The question is if they are worth adding now.

 

[sperry]

IMO, Central Florida is the most attractive out of that bunch. That might not be saying much. They are the best long-term play out of the group. They are the largest or 2nd largest school in the US and are graduating 10,000 students each year. Their best years are ahead of them. The biggest problem is that they don't have a huge fan base today. It will take time to build the passionate fan base.

I've lived in the Orlando area the last 12 years. For the first half dozen, UCF was just the commuter school that played D1 sports. Within the last 4 or 5 years, I've started seeing more and more UCF stuff on cars as I drive around town. In the past, it seemed that many UCF grads still pulled for UF or FSU. More of the recent grads actually are UCF grads and UCF fans. It may take some time, but the would be a great conference member 10-15 years down the road. The question is if they are worth adding now.

Agreed with Central Florida. They will have a huge alumni base down the line, and will have the funds and interest to construct and fill up a major stadium.

 

[sybarite]

Central Florida is the only school mentioned that would have a long-term benefit. But, the Big Twelve exists no longer. We had been associated with Nebraska and Missouri for about eighty years, Colorado for about fifty-five. We let the lifeboat from the SWC come aboard, and it cost us our long term allies.

We had been separated from Texas for eighty-one years, and we survived happily. We had only been associated with OSU since 58. It is not necessary to be in a conference with them. Any marriage with Texas should come with a divorce attorney on retainer. They think they are an Independent nation and conference.

I fear that our ship sailed with the failure of the Pac Ten offer. I see no future with the Big Twelve, and Texas will eventually bail on it. We can either set sail for a foreign land or hope that someone throws us a life preserver when this ship sinks. On its own, it will sink, because Texas will leave. We will once again be Oklahoma and the seven dwarfs, but it will cost a lot more to build the conference this time.