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Harmon- Interesting note. I spoke to a current players parent and was told Harmon wanted to stay but his parents made him leave for Oregon. If i remember correctly, porter was sure he was coming back from conversations with DH, then it came out that he was looking if NBA didnt work out.

Parents made him? Sounds like a chump.
 
It's amazing how many parents think if the kid is at a different program he will be a pro vs. the one he has been playing. Harmon's family thought he was one and done. He has been a very good player but at best will be a rotation guy in the league. My guess is probably be lucky to be a two way player.
Manek was a punching boy for the fans. He also was to himself. Wish he had stayed but it was probably best for his mental health to be elsewhere and NC is a great place.

For a guy Harmon’s size to make the NBA, he needs to either be a superb athlete, an absolute knockdown shooter, or have some other elite skill(s). I like Harmon as a college player and was disappointed he left because he could have really helped us, but I see no chance he will ever play in the league unless something drastically changes.
 
Kur was dominant on D against the Illini. A real rim protector.
 
Kur was dominant on D against the Illini. A real rim protector.

7 points 5 boards 5 blocks and 2 steals ..

also keep in mind the Illinois All american center was out .. (he has to miss the first 3 games because he sold apparel a month before NIL started)
 
JB at UTEP 13 points in a loss to NMST

Shepherd at Cal 14 points in a win vs san diego
 
The whole "fresh start" some guys were reportedly looking for -- doesn't a new coaching staff qualify? I guess not.

And I wonder what in the world was behind Harmon's parents insisting he leave OU. I was never a good at sports, nor were any of my siblings, so my folks never faced the challenge of parenting an elite athlete, but I can guarantee they never would have interfered in that way. They'd have offered guidance, of course, but in the end, the decision would have been mine.

Fresh start with their choice of program/coach vs. Fresh start with provided coach - i think that is the difference for that argument
 
Fresh start with their choice of program/coach vs. Fresh start with provided coach - i think that is the difference for that argument

Then the question is (and I'm not convinced it can be answered with certainty -- or that it need be answered at all), how many of those players would have remained at OU if Kruger hadn't retired. Would they have pursued fresh starts regardless of who was coaching at OU?

Either way, I'm not assigning blame to Coach Moser for their departure -- I just wish some of those guys were still with us. But I'm sure he did all he could to convince them to stay (and he succeeded with several guys).
 
That's what happens when you have a great head coach. Hope that guy never joins our conference.

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how many of those players would have remained at OU if Kruger hadn't retired. Would they have pursued fresh starts regardless of who was coaching at OU?

Manek was 50/50 and IMHO he would have stayed

Williams i think would have stayed ...

if the staff stayed the same Harmon would have stayed ..

and Vic would have stayed

Kur i don't have any idea ..
 
Manek was 50/50 and IMHO he would have stayed

Williams i think would have stayed ...

if the staff stayed the same Harmon would have stayed ..

and Vic would have stayed

Kur i don't have any idea ..

I would have kept all 4 but Vic. Everyone else we have lost over the years were not big deals and McGusty is too much of a diva for a good team IMO
 
17 and 9 for Manek to help lead the Heels to a comeback win. Harmon had 7 in a blowout loss to BYU. Given that his desire to be the lead guard was apparently one of his reasons to look at his options after last season, it’s ironic that he mainly plays off the ball again at Oregon.
 
17 and 9 for Manek to help lead the Heels to a comeback win. Harmon had 7 in a blowout loss to BYU. Given that his desire to be the lead guard was apparently one of his reasons to look at his options after last season, it’s ironic that he mainly plays off the ball again at Oregon.

worse lose to an unranked team in Oregon history ...
 
Has Iwaukor played?

he has not yet but i just found this ..

23. What will be the starting five on opening night? Marvin Coleman, Mike Nuga, Bryce Hamilton, Donovan Williams, Royce Hamm. Nuga, Hamilton and Hamm are locks to start and figure to be cornerstone players. Coleman gets the nod at point guard because he brings the best blend of leadership, shooting and defense. At forward, Williams starts because Victor Iwuakor is likely out due to a shoulder injury. Expect the lineups to be fluid for the first month of the season.
 
O'Garro got his first min of the season (2) in a loss last night

Jordan Shepherd started and had 4 points

Kuath started and had 6 points and 4 blocks ..

and T phipps got 29 min off the bench for ORU and scored 22
 
O'Garro got some run in a blow out last night .and had 11 points and 4 boards .

Phipps had 10 in an ORU loss

Manek had 6 points 4 boards in a loss to purdue
 
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