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Harmon and Oregon are REALLY struggling. They just lost at home to an awful Arizona State team. He is averaging under 9 per game and shooting under 38 percent. Manek, on the other hand, had another nice game and is averaging near career highs in points, boards, FG, and 3FG percentage.
 
WichitaSooner said:
Harmon and Oregon are REALLY struggling. They just lost at home to an awful Arizona State team. He is averaging under 9 per game and shooting under 38 percent.
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If it doesn't work out at Oregon, he can always enter next year's draft.
 
I always thought that alondes williams deserved more minutes. Kind of crazy how much lon botched him and others.

Imagine the last couple rosters with Moser

The dude is averaging 21 ppg, 7 rpg, and 5 apg. He is killing it
 
SoonerBounce13 said:
I always thought that alondes williams deserved more minutes. Kind of crazy how much lon botched him and others.

Imagine the last couple rosters with Moser

The dude is averaging 21 ppg, 7 rpg, and 5 apg. He is killing it
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Let’s not blame Lon for anything other than resurrecting a dead program from capel.

Alondes wasn’t a model citizen here.
 
SoonerBounce13 said:
I always thought that alondes williams deserved more minutes. Kind of crazy how much lon botched him and others.

Imagine the last couple rosters with Moser

The dude is averaging 21 ppg, 7 rpg, and 5 apg. He is killing it
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Right? A increase in production like that from a sophomore year to a junior season is almost unprecedented. I mean, just imagine the if the guy who coached Stacey King his junior season had been coaching him his first two years.
 
skyvue said:
Right? A increase in production like that from a sophomore year to a junior season is almost unprecedented. I mean, just imagine the if the guy who coached Stacey King his junior season had been coaching him his first two years.
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nice strawman

Its not like he is just putting up decent numbers. He is putting up player of the year type numbers. Give your stars minutes and they can show what they can do.
 
SoonerBounce13 said:
So we aren't allowed to blame lon for anything?
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Yes and no. Criticism of Coach Kruger isn’t off limits, but we also don’t want to ruin a good thread with a topic that could easily spiral out of control.

Williams is having the type of year no one could have predicted. A JUCO player often makes a big jump from his junior to senior season, and perhaps he is getting the coaching he wants. I wish he was still at OU, but best of luck and continued success to the young man.
 
SoonerBounce13 said:
nice strawman

Its not like he is just putting up decent numbers. He is putting up player of the year type numbers. Give your stars minutes and they can show what they can do.
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Not a strawman at all.

Williams has averaged 6/7/21 his first three seasons.

King averaged 6/7/22 his first three seasons, all under Tubbs. According to your "logic," Tubbs was a bad coach King's first two seasons.

The suggestion that Williams wasn't given enough minutes to show what he could do is not backed up by facts. He averaged 19 minutes per game last year; that's five minutes more than any bench player is getting this season.

The truth is, there are many reasons why a light might come on for a player. A change of scenery, an increase in maturity, easier competition, the list goes on.
 
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Wake forest has played one of the 5 worst schedules in the country. Will be interesting to see what he’s able to do when they get in conference play.
 
skyvue said:
Not a strawman at all.

Williams has averaged 6/7/21 his first three seasons.

King averaged 6/7/22 his first three seasons, all under Tubbs. According to your "logic," Tubbs was a bad coach King's first two seasons.

The suggestion that Williams wasn't given enough minutes to show what he could do is not backed up by facts. He averaged 19 minutes per game last year; that's five minutes more than any bench player is getting this season.

The truth is, there are many reasons why a light might come on for a player. A change of scenery, an increase in maturity, easier competition, the list goes on.
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You are using one example to try and discredit my statement.
And I never said that Lon was a bad coach...he clearly isn't.
But I didn't like some of the decisions he made and I wasn't a big fan of how he managed the team...atleast how it is perceived from teh outside
 
pnkranger said:
Wake forest has played one of the 5 worst schedules in the country. Will be interesting to see what he’s able to do when they get in conference play.
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The ACC currently has 1 ranked team in Duke and Wake is the only other receiving votes.
 
Has there been any mention of Kam McGusty in the thread?

His stat line from this season is pretty impressive. Averaging 18 pts a game. 50% from the field. 40% from 3. 6 rebounds a game.
 
SoonerJK12 said:
Has there been any mention of Kam McGusty in the thread?

His stat line from this season is pretty impressive. Averaging 18 pts a game. 50% from the field. 40% from 3. 6 rebounds a game.
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McGusty hit the game-winner at Duke earlier tonight. The rest of the non-Duke world rejoiced.

I also saw a little bit of Jordan Shepherd playing for Cal against USC the other night. I didn't catch the ending, but it sounded like he was a key player for Cal and was missing when USC started to open it up right before halftime.
 
SoonerJK12 said:
Has there been any mention of Kam McGusty in the thread?

His stat line from this season is pretty impressive. Averaging 18 pts a game. 50% from the field. 40% from 3. 6 rebounds a game.
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if you watch miami you will see that McGusty looks to have finally bought in to College level conditioning programs ..
 
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