March Madness and Covid-19

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mict085 said:
I’m not calling you out. I didn’t agree with the other article. The biggest problem we are facing is not the virus. It’s the politicizing of the virus. Everything is made political, from both sides. Both sides blame each other instead of working together.
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Note: The Bulwark is a Conservative website. So this isn't "both sides." This is the Right policing itself. The author of the article in the Bulwark used to write for the Federalist.
 
mict085 said:
The problem with herd immunity, is that it requires infecting 60-80% of the entire population. Even with a modest death rate of 1%, that’s 2-3 million dead Americans. I don’t know anyone that’s OK with that. I’m certainly not and I don’t agree with his assessment. Herd immunity is only safely achieved with a vaccine.
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Not true. By protecting those most at risk, the mortality rate would drop for the new "population." Yes, probably lower than 1%.

And I'm not saying I'm 100% for what the article suggests, but at some point we're just going to have to get back out there, protect those at risk the most, and let this thing burn itself out.
 
WTSooner said:
Not true. By protecting those most at risk, the mortality rate would drop for the new "population." Yes, probably lower than 1%.
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But your "expert" Knutt Wittkowski says, "You cannot stop the spread of a respiratory disease within a family, and you cannot stop it from spreading with neighbors, with people who are delivering, who are physicians—anybody."

Which is it?
 
mict085 said:
I’m not calling you out. I didn’t agree with the other article. The biggest problem we are facing is not the virus. It’s the politicizing of the virus. Everything is made political, from both sides. Both sides blame each other instead of working together.
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A-fricking-men

Here in ks the governor said the other day “kansans are dying EVERYDAY”.... ummm, no they aren’t, 1035ish tested positive, 35ish dead.

This was in response to the AG saying churches, although ASKED to not gather for Easter Services, the state cannot legally fine them if they do. It’s unconstitutional. Course her being a dem/the others pub she was pissed and brought politics into her speech.

Honestly most churches will not have services. The Catholic Arch dioceses has said no services just via internet.
 
Soonerinkc said:
A-fricking-men

Here in ks the governor said the other day “kansans are dying EVERYDAY”.... ummm, no they aren’t, 1035ish tested positive, 35ish dead.

This was in response to the AG saying churches, although ASKED to not gather for Easter Services, the state cannot legally fine them if they do. It’s unconstitutional. Course her being a dem/the others pub she was pissed and brought politics into her speech.

Honestly most churches will not have services. The Catholic Arch dioceses has said no services just via internet.
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Well they're dying everyday in Oklahoma...

https://coronavirus.health.ok.gov/

Scroll to the bottom and check the graph...
 
steverocks35 said:
Note: The Bulwark is a Conservative website. So this isn't "both sides." This is the Right policing itself. The author of the article in the Bulwark used to write for the Federalist.
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The bulwark was started as an anti-Trump voice. So, it is. They are conservatives but they’re whole existence is to be anti-Trump everything. They’re part of the problem, not part of any solution. This is the plague that is infecting America. Anti-everything and it’s all trumps fault. Disgusting
 
Soonerinkc said:
A-fricking-men

Here in ks the governor said the other day “kansans are dying EVERYDAY”.... ummm, no they aren’t, 1035ish tested positive, 35ish dead.

This was in response to the AG saying churches, although ASKED to not gather for Easter Services, the state cannot legally fine them if they do. It’s unconstitutional. Course her being a dem/the others pub she was pissed and brought politics into her speech.

Honestly most churches will not have services. The Catholic Arch dioceses has said no services just via internet.
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Yeah, that’s an overstatement by a politician. Let me say, I think social distancing is working. I think the curve is flattening. The reporting is lagging behind, but I think it will start to show up soon. The death rate in America isn’t really much different than it is normally. You’d think with a pandemic, the death rate would be dramatically higher than normal, but it’s not.

I know some people love to paint an apocalyptic picture, but so far it’s not happening. The hospitals are not being overrun. Nobody is running out of ventilators. The PPE is in short supply, and that’s a problem, but with so many people making more PPE, it shouldn’t be a problem for long. We are not out of the woods but We are making progress.
 
mict085 said:
People have always died everyday. When have they not? This isn’t the Spanish flu or the Black Plague that everyone was predicting.
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Yep.

And Oklahoma hasn't seen exponential growth in deaths like somebody was predicting either.
 
Right now, OUMC is in good shape. Our ICU here does not have many COVID patients. Lots of ICU beds sitting empty.

But we are still preparing for a "surge" in the next two weeks. Unsure if that will actualize. We shall see.
 
SoonerJK12 said:
Right now, OUMC is in good shape. Our ICU here does not have many COVID patients. Lots of ICU beds sitting empty.

But we are still preparing for a "surge" in the next two weeks. Unsure if that will actualize. We shall see.
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good to hear
 
BoulderSooner said:
good to hear
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I'm not sure that is good news for everyone on here.;)

The truth is that there are still way too many unknowns about this virus/breakout:
  • How long has the virus been here? Did the hotspots occur because of travel from China or Europe? Or both?
  • If it has been here since the beginning of the year (or sooner), has any herd-immunity been developed?....at least in certain areas (like parts of California or Washington).
  • Has NY reached its peak as of yesterday? Are they the outlier or closer to the norm?
  • What specific co-morbidities do we need to track more deliberately in conjunction with this disease?
  • Why do the models suck so bad?...and then prescribed policy based on incomplete information. What variables are too under or over-accounted for?

These are just some questions I have.....and we likely won't have substantial answers to any of these until months from now.
 
stormspencer said:
I'm not sure that is good news for everyone on here.;)

The truth is that there are still way too many unknowns about this virus/breakout:
  • How long has the virus been here? Did the hotspots occur because of travel from China or Europe? Or both?
  • If it has been here since the beginning of the year (or sooner), has any herd-immunity been developed?....at least in certain areas (like parts of California or Washington).
  • Has NY reached its peak as of yesterday? Are they the outlier or closer to the norm?
  • What specific co-morbidities do we need to track more deliberately in conjunction with this disease?
  • Why do the models suck so bad?...and then prescribed policy based on incomplete information. What variables are too under or over-accounted for?

These are just some questions I have.....and we likely won't have substantial answers to any of these until months from now.
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We do what we can.


And it looks like Oklahoma has, to this point, reported 1 passing for today versus 16 yesterday.
 
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Did CVS, Walmart, and Target ever open drive-thru testing centers in their parking lots?
 
mict085 said:
People have always died everyday. When have they not? This isn’t the Spanish flu or the Black Plague that everyone was predicting.
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While that is true, I just read an article in a Newsweek article stating that the Coronavirus is now the leading cause of death in the USA. More people are presently dieing from it than cancer or heart disease. I was hopeful a few weeks back when only 1.2% were dieing from it in the USA. The percentages were lowering by the day. Unfortunately, 1.2% was as low as it got, and has been trending upward since.

Yes. I want to be optimistic, so I'm definitely looking forward to seeing a drastic DROP in cases and deaths...can't happen soon enough.
 
WaymanFan said:
While that is true, I just read an article in a Newsweek article stating that the Coronavirus is now the leading cause of death in the USA. More people are presently dieing from it than cancer or heart disease. I was hopeful a few weeks back when only 1.2% were dieing from it in the USA. The percentages were lowering by the day. Unfortunately, 1.2% was as low as it got, and has been trending upward since.

Yes. I want to be optimistic, so I'm definitely looking forward to seeing a drastic DROP in cases and deaths...can't happen soon enough.
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The death rates should be based off the number of cases. The numerator is more accurate than the denominator.
 
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