March Madness and Covid-19

[Eielson]

Also anybody that doesn't see the utility of vaccines after this is simply hopeless.

 

[WTSooner]

Anybody have a different link to watch the video? I made it like 5-seconds in and turned it off because it sounded like conspiracy theories from a bat**** crazy lady. A few of my colleagues mentioned it, and said they made it a few minutes in but turned it off for the same reason. I'll quickly watch through it tonight if it's on something like youtube that can be played at double speed.

It was hard to watch. I think there is likely something going on, but I don't know that that video or the people in it are what I'd use to hang by hat on.

 

[steverocks35]

Anybody have a different link to watch the video? I made it like 5-seconds in and turned it off because it sounded like conspiracy theories from a bat**** crazy lady. A few of my colleagues mentioned it, and said they made it a few minutes in but turned it off for the same reason. I'll quickly watch through it tonight if it's on something like youtube that can be played at double speed.

YouTube removed it for breaking their terms of service (spreading crazy conspiracy theories). You might be able to find it on her Twitter feed.

 

[Sooner04]

Think of all of the painstaking research and work that allowed things like measles and polio and smallpox to be completely eradicated (more or less) from this planet. Think of all the time and effort those undertakings encompassed.

And then think about people who cast their lot with Jenny McCarthy in the fight against vaccines. I know she's hot, I watched Singled Out when I was a kid, but c'mon.

Think about that for a minute. That's what we're dealing with, and that fringe is growing every single day.

 

[thebigabd]

Think of all of the painstaking research and work that allowed things like measles and polio and smallpox to be completely eradicated (more or less) from this planet. Think of all the time and effort those undertakings encompassed.

And then think about people who cast their lot with Jenny McCarthy in the fight against vaccines. I know she's hot, I watched Singled Out when I was a kid, but c'mon.

Think about that for a minute. That's what we're dealing with, and that fringe is growing every single day.

Yep.

 

[steverocks35]

Think of all of the painstaking research and work that allowed things like measles and polio and smallpox to be completely eradicated (more or less) from this planet. Think of all the time and effort those undertakings encompassed.

And then think about people who cast their lot with Jenny McCarthy in the fight against vaccines. I know she's hot, I watched Singled Out when I was a kid, but c'mon.

Think about that for a minute. That's what we're dealing with, and that fringe is growing every single day.

Well said

 

[SoonerBounce13]

Think of all of the painstaking research and work that allowed things like measles and polio and smallpox to be completely eradicated (more or less) from this planet. Think of all the time and effort those undertakings encompassed.

And then think about people who cast their lot with Jenny McCarthy in the fight against vaccines. I know she's hot, I watched Singled Out when I was a kid, but c'mon.

Think about that for a minute. That's what we're dealing with, and that fringe is growing every single day.

That isn't really fair and i cant comment for everyone but comparing covid and smallpox/measles/polio is ridiculous. The death rates for those are so much higher the covid. Without a vaccine, the deathrate of covid is similar to the deathrate of the flu with a vaccine.

I'm for vaccines when they are ethically sourced and have an actual need for the common good and when they work.

I'm not for vaccines being used like a guessing game and using fetal tissue form aborted babies or as a way of control...i.e. you can't leave your house if you aren't vaccinated.

It should be a choice. If you want to protect yourself and your family, get a vaccine. if you want to risk it, risk it

 

[SoonerBounce13]

i think we can all agree that one conspiracy theory that needs to get started is that bill self worked with China to unleash the corona virus to distract the NCAA and the public from their cheating

 

[steverocks35]

That isn't really fair and i cant comment for everyone but comparing covid and smallpox/measles/polio is ridiculous. The death rates for those are so much higher the covid. Without a vaccine, the deathrate of covid is similar to the deathrate of the flu with a vaccine.

I'm for vaccines when they are ethically sourced and have an actual need for the common good and when they work.

I'm not for vaccines being used like a guessing game and using fetal tissue form aborted babies or as a way of control...i.e. you can't leave your house if you aren't vaccinated.

It should be a choice. If you want to protect yourself and your family, get a vaccine. if you want to risk it, risk it

So you don't think we should develop a vaccine for a disease that has already killed, as of today, 76,000 Americans, at least, and counting? That's just plain nuts.

Vaccines should not be a choice because what you are doing is risking the health of others because of your conspiracy theories about vaccines.

And the "fetal tissue" thing is a red herring. They use cell lines that originated from fetal tissue to make some vaccines, but those cell lines are many many many generations removed. These are called immortalized cell lines.

 

[dksooner]

So you don't think we should develop a vaccine for a disease that has already killed, as of today, 76,000 Americans, at least, and counting? That's just plain nuts.

Vaccines should not be a choice because what you are doing is risking the health of others because of your conspiracy theories about vaccines.

And the "fetal tissue" thing is a red herring. They use cell lines that originated from fetal tissue to make some vaccines, but those cell lines are many many many generations removed. These are called immortalized cell lines.

It should be a choice and that death figure is not a true death by covid number. There's still not a vaccine for HIV and there doesn't have to be a vaccine for covid for life to go on.

 

[mict085]

That isn't really fair and i cant comment for everyone but comparing covid and smallpox/measles/polio is ridiculous. The death rates for those are so much higher the covid. Without a vaccine, the deathrate of covid is similar to the deathrate of the flu with a vaccine.

I'm for vaccines when they are ethically sourced and have an actual need for the common good and when they work.

I'm not for vaccines being used like a guessing game and using fetal tissue form aborted babies or as a way of control...i.e. you can't leave your house if you aren't vaccinated.

It should be a choice. If you want to protect yourself and your family, get a vaccine. if you want to risk it, risk it

Listen, Typhoid Mary, when the public health is threatened a vaccine can be mandated. Anti vaccine people are ignorant and that ignorance is very dangerous. If you can’t see the value of a vaccine, then you’re being ignorant, willfully or not.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

So you don't think we should develop a vaccine for a disease that has already killed, as of today, 76,000 Americans, at least, and counting? That's just plain nuts.

I think they can. But it shouldn't be required.

Vaccines should not be a choice because what you are doing is risking the health of others because of your conspiracy theories about vaccines.

So by me not getting a vaccine while you do get it is endangering you how exactly?

And the "fetal tissue" thing is a red herring. They use cell lines that originated from fetal tissue to make some vaccines, but those cell lines are many many many generations removed. These are called immortalized cell lines.

and? My belief is that it is unethical and immoral regardless of how long it has been. Time doesn't diminish immoral acts

 

[SoonerBounce13]

Listen, Typhoid Mary, when the public health is threatened a vaccine can be mandated. Anti vaccine people are ignorant and that ignorance is very dangerous. If you can’t see the value of a vaccine, then you’re being ignorant, willfully or not.

I see the value. But it shouldn't be forced.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

So you don't think we should develop a vaccine for a disease that has already killed, as of today, 76,000 Americans, at least, and counting? That's just plain nuts.

Vaccines should not be a choice because what you are doing is risking the health of others because of your conspiracy theories about vaccines.

And the "fetal tissue" thing is a red herring. They use cell lines that originated from fetal tissue to make some vaccines, but those cell lines are many many many generations removed. These are called immortalized cell lines.

Do you think the flu vaccine should be required? Why or why not?

 

[hoopsaustin]

That isn't really fair and i cant comment for everyone but comparing covid and smallpox/measles/polio is ridiculous. The death rates for those are so much higher the covid. Without a vaccine, the deathrate of covid is similar to the deathrate of the flu with a vaccine.

I'm for vaccines when they are ethically sourced and have an actual need for the common good and when they work.

I'm not for vaccines being used like a guessing game and using fetal tissue form aborted babies or as a way of control...i.e. you can't leave your house if you aren't vaccinated.

It should be a choice. If you want to protect yourself and your family, get a vaccine. if you want to risk it, risk it

Negative. Your "choice" to not get a vaccine may spread it to others.. therefore, your freedom to make that idiotic "choice" is not just affecting you.. if you would choose that and then only go outside in a bubble then id be all for your choice.

 

[steverocks35]

I think they can. But it shouldn't be required.


So by me not getting a vaccine while you do get it is endangering you how exactly?


and? My belief is that it is unethical and immoral regardless of how long it has been. Time doesn't diminish immoral acts

Because some people who can't get vaccinated for whatever reason, some are immuno-suppressed, some are allergic, whatever, are protected by HERD IMMUNITY. That means the overwhelming majority of people are immune and the disease doesn't have a chance to spread in the community. (See: Polio, smallpox). Sheesh.

Do you think the flu vaccine should be required? Why or why not?

Yes, for the good of society. And I am required to get one every year for my job and I have zero problem with it.

 

[WTSooner]

Do you think the flu vaccine should be required? Why or why not?

That is my question. And if not, where exactly is the cutoff between what should require a vaccine, and what shouldn't.

 

[steverocks35]

I find myself in rare agreement with HoopsAustin and Mict085, yay! lol

Also, all anti-vaxxers should be shipped to a remote island in the south Atlantic where they can live in disease-ridden harmony.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

Negative. Your "choice" to not get a vaccine may spread it to others.. therefore, your freedom to make that idiotic "choice" is not just affecting you.. if you would choose that and then only go outside in a bubble then id be all for your choice.

but if everyone gets the vaccine that wants it, why is this an issue?

Get the vaccine if you want protected. Don't if you don't.

 

[steverocks35]

but if everyone gets the vaccine that wants it, why is this an issue?

Get the vaccine if you want protected. Don't if you don't.

Herd immunity, this is not a difficult concept.