March Madness and Covid-19

[SoonerBounce13]

Because some people who can't get vaccinated for whatever reason, some are immuno-suppressed, some are allergic, whatever, are protected by HERD IMMUNITY. That means the overwhelming majority of people are immune and the disease doesn't have a chance to spread in the community. (See: Polio, smallpox). Sheesh.

So where does it stop? What if 100 people in the entire country that want the vaccine but can't get it for some reason. Do we force the 300 million people to do something they may not want to for 100 people? 10 people? 1 person?

Yes, for the good of society. And I am required to get one every year for my job and I have zero problem with it.

fair enough.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

I find myself in rare agreement with HoopsAustin and Mict085, yay! lol

Also, all anti-vaxxers should be shipped to a remote island in the south Atlantic where they can live in disease-ridden harmony.

how tolerant of you

I'm not anti vaccines. I'm pro choice. I think it is a slippery slope.
All of my kids are vaccinated. I'm vaccinated. I usually get the flu shot.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

Herd immunity, this is not a difficult concept.

if you want herd immunity, let it spread

 

[steverocks35]

So where does it stop? What if 100 people in the entire country that want the vaccine but can't get it for some reason. Do we force the 300 million people to do something they may not want to for 100 people? 10 people? 1 person?

This is a silly hypothetical, hundreds of thousands of people can't get vaccinated for whatever reason, and we eradicated polio and smallpox through massive vaccination programs only to have those diseases make a resurgence because idiots spread conspiracy theories about vaccines and it influences people to not vaccinate their children.

 

[steverocks35]

if you want herd immunity, let it spread

This is so dumb I don't know if I can respond without it getting personal.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

This is a silly hypothetical, hundreds of thousands of people can't get vaccinated for whatever reason, and we eradicated polio and smallpox through massive vaccination programs only to have those diseases make a resurgence because idiots spread conspiracy theories about vaccines and it influences people to not vaccinate their children.

So what is the cutoff?

And as stated earlier, those diseases are a different animal than the flu or covid. I think that makes a big difference. I know you don't think it does. And that is fine.

I appreciate the dialogue though

 

[SoonerBounce13]

This is so dumb I don't know if I can respond without it getting personal.

Why is it dumb?

There are doctors saying that we should let this play out so we have a herd immunity.

 

[steverocks35]

Why is it dumb?

There are doctors saying that we should let this play out so we have a herd immunity.

Those doctors are what we refer to in the business as "idiots."

I have not heard a single doctor say that, and I interact with them daily in the Covid-19 workgroup.

 

[dksooner]

Why is it dumb?

There are doctors saying that we should let this play out so we have a herd immunity.

He's the kind if you have a different viewpoint you are ignorant, dumb, and stupid. I've never had the flu shot and never had the flu. I know people that get the flu shot every year and still get the flu.

 

[steverocks35]

He's the kind if you have a different viewpoint you are ignorant, dumb, and stupid. I've never had the flu shot and never had the flu. I know people that get the flu shot every year and still get the flu.

I wear underwear daily and I have never been attacked by pirates. UNDERWEAR KEEPS PIRATES FROM ATTACKING!

 

[SoonerBounce13]

You can achieve herd immunity two ways...vaccines or the population getting exposed to it.

IMO, the risk with vaccines is taking away liberties and small risk of reaction to the vaccine. The risk with no vaccine is young people and those that can't get a vaccine.

I think we don't have enough info on this virus to see the best course of action.
If the death rate is really 5-10%, I would not be opposed to mandatory vaccines for the common good.

If it is under 1%, and the data continues to say that young children are not really affected by it, then I don't think it should be mandatory.

There is study after study coming out saying that there are a very large percentage of people that never have symptoms. This could reduce the death rate down to under 1% and possibly even lower than the flu. And I don't like the risk of rushing a vaccine that might have unwanted consequences.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

He's the kind if you have a different viewpoint you are ignorant, dumb, and stupid. I've never had the flu shot and never had the flu. I know people that get the flu shot every year and still get the flu.

correct. The flu shot is terribly ineffective. And there are some that get the shot and get sick from the shot.

 

[steverocks35]

correct. The flu shot is terribly ineffective. And there are some that get the shot and get sick from the shot.

This is not true at all.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

I don't think I really have much more to say on it. I'm open to changing my opinion as more data comes in, but the fear the media and governments are producing from this is very terrifying to me. There is an obvious agenda and that is why I am so weary and suspicious.

So I'll end it with this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY6-HvE5YdU&t=27s

 

[dksooner]

There are vaccines that are no brainers but if a vaccine is required for covid no thanks.

 

[Stikboy]

Hold on a second. Are you peabrains actually talking about mandating a vaccine to control this deadly deadly deadly deadly PANDEMIC that kills approximately .08% of the population? HAHAHHAHAHA

Really, to me, that number really doesn't even matter. Anyone mandating something like that to me can eat a bag of (cookies). I agree with Soonerbounce wholeheartedly on that.

This thread has been really entertaining. I would like to personally thank you all. Especially the resident experts!

 

[SoonerBounce13]

This is not true at all.

Yes it is

 

[steverocks35]

Hold on a second. Are you peabrains actually talking about mandating a vaccine to control this deadly deadly deadly deadly PANDEMIC that kills approximately .08% of the population? HAHAHHAHAHA

Really, to me, that number really doesn't even matter. Anyone mandating something like that to me can eat a bag of (cookies). I agree with Soonerbounce wholeheartedly on that.

This thread has been really entertaining. I would like to personally thank you all. Especially the resident experts!

This is brilliance. I'm surprised the Lancet hasn't asked you to write a guest column.

 

[WTSooner]

There are vaccines that are no brainers but if a vaccine is required for covid no thanks.

Agreed. Unless data comes out that supports this being more deadly to the average person than I believe it is, it's basically the flu to me going forward. And I don't get the flu shot.

 

[Stikboy]

This is brilliance. I'm surprised the Lancet hasn't asked you to write a guest column.

Thank you for the self esteem boost! Now let me try to boost yours, and this is a fact. The only reason I ever open this thread, when I do, is because of you. I promise I am not being a smart ***!