March Madness and Covid-19

[SoonerJK12]

You're right, that's also a bad comparison, Covid-19 has killed orders of magnitude more people.

Just pointing out that comparing infectious diseases to terrorism makes as much sense as you think comparing COVID to the flu does. That is all.

 

[steverocks35]

Just pointing out that comparing infectious diseases to terrorism makes as much sense as you think comparing COVID to the flu does. That is all.

I told you you were right, take yes for an answer.

 

[Sooner04]

https://rt.live/

Oklahoma has bumped up to .98 over the last few days, up from .9 or so when this link was first shared. That corresponds with what I've heard from my few friends in the medical field who've told me that the surge is happening in our state right now.

The journalistic reporting of this pandemic has done so much harm. I remember reading around March 20 that Norman's hospital resources would be overwhelmed between March 29 and April 2. Now everything is opening up.....talk about precarious timing.

I'm doing my part. I hope everyone else is, too. Stay at home if you can!

 

[WTSooner]

Oklahoma has bumped up to .98 over the last few days, up from .9 or so when this link was first shared. That corresponds with what I've heard from my few friends in the medical field who've told me that the surge is happening in our state right now.

The journalistic reporting of this pandemic has done so much harm. I remember reading around March 20 that Norman's hospital resources would be overwhelmed between March 29 and April 2. Now everything is opening up.....talk about precarious timing.

I'm doing my part. I hope everyone else is, too. Stay at home if you can!

Yep, you can tell from the other states near the right end that the midwest is going through their peak, or somewhere close to their peak, currently.

 

[SoonerJK12]

Oklahoma has bumped up to .98 over the last few days, up from .9 or so when this link was first shared. That corresponds with what I've heard from my few friends in the medical field who've told me that the surge is happening in our state right now.

The journalistic reporting of this pandemic has done so much harm. I remember reading around March 20 that Norman's hospital resources would be overwhelmed between March 29 and April 2. Now everything is opening up.....talk about precarious timing.

I'm doing my part. I hope everyone else is, too. Stay at home if you can!

We passed our peak in hospitalizations a couple of weeks ago. Numbers of hospitalized COVID patients is down 43% from its high on April 13th.

 

[hoopsaustin]

Listen man. I am on the front lines. I didn’t say it wasn’t deadly. I said it was similar to the flu. You are over the top with the end of the world scenario. I’m not sitting in a lab. I take care of patients and have intubated many COVID patients in the ICU. I can tell you people are being furloughed or terminated because the hospitals are empty. Yes, we need more PPE and testing, but the hospital census is down and some hospitals will be forced to close because they haven’t been able to perform elective cases. So, let’s get back to work and manage the disease logically.

He predicted 2 million deaths.. he's pot committed to his narrative :ez-laugh: its adorable

 

[WTSooner]

I know it could be in part to reporting discrepancies, but I believe Oklahoma just had 3 days of no reported deaths.

 

[SoonerJK12]

I know it could be in part to reporting discrepancies, but I believe Oklahoma just had 3 days of no reported deaths.

Usually the weekend is slow in reporting, so it could just be that; however, we have not had a day without a reported death since this all began. So I think there is something there.

It will be interesting to see what numbers are reported today -- Tuesdays are generally the day where everything catches up and the numbers look worse as you have cases from the weekend that didn't get reported. If only a few deaths are reported today, then that combined with the good weekend numbers will be pretty significant I think.

 

[mict085]

I know it could be in part to reporting discrepancies, but I believe Oklahoma just had 3 days of no reported deaths.

Haven’t you heard man? COVID people die on Monday’s. The cumulative cases graph keeps going up!!!

 

[soonerchuck]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/ot...e-original-study-says/ar-BB13CHNP?ocid=msnews
There is a new version of the coronavirus that appeared and took over in NY and is much more easily spread although not necessarily any more deadly, Maybe it is that Oklahoma primarily has the west coast variety (the original Wuhan version) that is accounting for the lower rate of transmission in OK. The bad news is that apparently those that got the Wuhan version are likely to be susceptible to the newer east coast variety that first showed up in Italy. The link provides much more information.

 

[SoonerJK12]

Graph of recoveries and active cases of COVID in OK as a percentage of cumulative cases including deaths.

 

[BoulderSooner]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/ot...e-original-study-says/ar-BB13CHNP?ocid=msnews
There is a new version of the coronavirus that appeared and took over in NY and is much more easily spread although not necessarily any more deadly, Maybe it is that Oklahoma primarily has the west coast variety (the original Wuhan version) that is accounting for the lower rate of transmission in OK. The bad news is that apparently those that got the Wuhan version are likely to be susceptible to the newer east coast variety that first showed up in Italy. The link provides much more information.

and by "new" you mean has been in the USA since February

 

[SoonerBounce13]

It will be interesting to see the results released on this one. On the same day (or 1-2 days apart?) a pretty well designed study out of China showed Remdesevir was ineffective. This one was bigger (250 vs 1000 patients I believe), so that's reason for excitement. But also, it appears the company that stands to profit from this was heavily involved in the study...so that's reason for the opposite of excitement.

In the end, I'm not drawing any conclusions on remdesevir until I see the actual study. On the bright side, the China study suggested Remdesevir is at least safe.

Don't trust anything from China

 

[SoonerBounce13]

I haven’t been here much because I worked my ass off all week on Covid-19 related things. I see the numbers going up all over the country. Yesterday we had a 9/11 of Covid-19 deaths, about 3,000. And I still see people saying stupid sh!t comparing it to the flu or that the numbers aren’t correct. Well actually the numbers aren’t correct, the number of deaths from this are likely far higher than has been counted so far. You look at states like Iowa and Georgia, and you can see that the virus is on the move. We have had a small taste of it so far in Oklahoma but our number of cases is still on the rise. I don’t understand why people can’t even be bothered to wear a mask in public or social distance. Is that too much to ask? I am predicting a second wave, exactly like the 1918 pandemic. The differences between the two pandemics are that the Spanish flu in 1918 was not as deadly as Covid-19 but their medical care was not as advanced as ours is so it somewhat evens out.

Oh and here’s a good article about why you can’t really compare Covid-19 deaths to flu deaths, although stupid people keep doing it. If it seems like I’m frustrated it’s because I am. We have to be the least disciplined society in history.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/comparing-covid-19-deaths-to-flu-deaths-is-like-comparing-apples-to-oranges/

I'm sure this has been brought up already but when most people compare it to the flu, they are comparing the death rate. Which is fairly close to the flu. Total deaths will be higher. Keep in mind, that it is also comparing current death rates to flu death rates that has a vaccine.

 

[SoonerBounce13]

We are not swimming in tests at all and there is lots of buzz about most of the antibody testing being too nonspecific to be useful. Also, we don’t know if having antibodies makes you immune or not yet so our lead pathologist is recommending we don’t do any antibody testing until it all shakes out, maybe 6 months or more.

of course he is suggesting that...because it would lead people to realize that many many more people have had it and it isn't nearly as deadly as the media wants you to think.

There is a reason that doctors and scientists that are speaking out are getting silenced. And there is a reason that leaders in the government aren't wearing masks. It isn't because they are stupid, although some are, it is because they are privy to info we don't have. Take it as a clue.

My work has been testing anyone that wants it. We ahve about 1,000 people in our building. After the first week of testing, we had about 25 people that had antibodies and never had symptoms and only 2 people that tested postivie and had symptoms. There are studies everywhere showing that as many as 80% of people may be asymptomatic.

It is bad. It is really bad if you are old or have issues. But it isn't something to shut life down over.

The Lockdowns were never about stopping the virus. It was about slowing it down until we had a handle on it. And now most places do have a handle on it. Time to open up. Even my nurse friends say the people that don't have covid are the worse patients b/c they waited too long to come into the hospitial. He is ready to go golfing and hang out.

 

[Eielson]

Don't trust anything from China

I've been as critical of China as anybody here, but on one hand we have a well-designed study that has published its peer-reviewed data. On the other hand, we have a US study mired in controversy and heavily funded by the company that stands to benefit...and they still haven't released the actual data. Hard to say that's more trustworthy at this point.

 

[soonerchuck]

and by "new" you mean has been in the USA since February

No, I mean that scientists just recently decided we had 2 different strains of the coronavirus. The newer one may have mutated while in Europe from the original Wuhan virus. They believe that when the new virus comes into an area where the Wuhan virus is spreading the new virus moves so much faster that the original version in that area almost disappears

 

[Stikboy]

SIAP

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EAa8FLInScc

 

[AdaSooner]

SIAP

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EAa8FLInScc

Wow!!! If this video does not serve as a wake up call, nothing will!

 

[Soonerinkc]

Wow!!! If this video does not serve as a wake up call, nothing will!

Think back about the gov and all the **** it has done...agent orange..for one. Among a ton of other things..

I honestly don't trust them about as much I don't trust china...