March Madness and Covid-19

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BCSooners said:
I disagree with all of this. You can tell how much a place is frequented by the sales. Social distancing & smaller gatherings are highly encouraged as good safety practices. The older demographic is the majority population in churches. Online services are happening & the best option.
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But neither of us have the sales data which you speak of. And people know who is at most risk at this point in the pandemic. If these people want to jeopardize their future health then they will and can do so without the existence of churches (the hardest hit group has resulted from retirement/extended stay facilities).
 
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Eielson said:
These are the kind of comments that have alientated you two from everybody else.
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Your condescending comment required a condescending response. Of course everyone is exposed to viruses every day, but hopefully you have read somewhere that we are dealing with a worldwide pandemic caused by a very specific pathogen.
 
Eielson said:
These are the kind of comments that have alientated you two from everybody else.
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Every board has its erudites and they tend to come out in pairs so as to partake in their mini circle jerk. It's a rinse and repeat process, heavy on the rinse.
 
sheepdogs1 said:
Every board has its erudites and they tend to come out in pairs so as to partake in their mini circle jerk. It's a rinse and repeat process, heavy on the rinse.
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Sure, trying to get people to take this disease seriously while having every comment dissected to the letter is a "mini circle jerk."
 
steverocks35 said:
Your condescending comment required a condescending response. Of course everyone is exposed to viruses every day, but hopefully you have read somewhere that we are dealing with a worldwide pandemic caused by a very specific pathogen.
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The comment wasn't meant to be condesceding. Your posts suggested you may be unaware that infectious disease is one of the leading causes of death every year worldwide (well before COVID), so I simply inserted it into the conversation.
 
sheepdogs1 said:
Every board has its erudites and they tend to come out in pairs so as to partake in their mini circle jerk. It's a rinse and repeat process, heavy on the rinse.
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everyone is a villain in someone's tale.
 
Eielson said:
The comment wasn't meant to be condesceding. Your posts suggested you may be unaware that infectious disease is one of the leading causes of death every year worldwide (well before COVID), so I simply inserted it into the conversation.
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Fair enough, I'm very aware that infectious diseases are a common cause of death in the United States. But we aren't talking about those other diseases, this discussion is about the one causing the pandemic we are enduring at the moment. And my focus is keeping people from spreading SARS-Cov-2 and I believe that hair/nail salons/barber shops should be avoided at present. If you don't believe that for whatever reason, then we will just have to agree to disagree.
 
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/he...as-so-few-covid-cases-doctor-says/ar-BB14aOJi

This One Habit is Why Thailand Has So Few COVID Cases, Doctor Says

Can't we all agree that going to the gym with bunch of people huffing and puffing isn't a good idea during a pandemic???? As long as there is no one there with the virus, it might be ok......but how is anyone to know. It might take a few days before anyone is tested, or shows to have the virus. That is one of the traits that causes problems.

Same with churches.....sitting and standing next to people singing for 10 minutes or more and then sitting while the sermon is delivered....sharing the same space for more than an hour.

Isn't this more or less what the CDC is saying?????

The longer you are in the presence of the virus....or the presence of a high number of people with the virus for a short time, it would just make sense that there is a higher rate for transmission.
 
tooney said:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/he...as-so-few-covid-cases-doctor-says/ar-BB14aOJi

This One Habit is Why Thailand Has So Few COVID Cases, Doctor Says

Can't we all agree that going to the gym with bunch of people huffing and puffing isn't a good idea during a pandemic???? As long as there is no one there with the virus, it might be ok......but how is anyone to know. It might take a few days before anyone is tested, or shows to have the virus. That is one of the traits that causes problems.

Same with churches.....sitting and standing next to people singing for 10 minutes or more and then sitting while the sermon is delivered....sharing the same space for more than an hour.

Isn't this more or less what the CDC is saying?????

The longer you are in the presence of the virus....or the presence of a high number of people with the virus for a short time, it would just make sense that there is a higher rate for transmission.
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Yeah that's exactly what the CDC is saying. There have been many outbreaks traced back to churches. I don't know about gyms, they've probably all been closed so who knows, but I can't imagine it's a good environment to be in right now.

Interesting theory about the infection rate in Thailand. It makes sense but it will require some study.
 
steverocks35 said:
Fair enough, I'm very aware that infectious diseases are a common cause of death in the United States. But we aren't talking about those other diseases, this discussion is about the one causing the pandemic we are enduring at the moment. And my focus is keeping people from spreading SARS-Cov-2 and I believe that hair/nail salons/barber shops should be avoided at present. If you don't believe that for whatever reason, then we will just have to agree to disagree.
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I agree that there is risk going to get your haircut -- that much is undeniable. However, risk is always present in nearly everything we do. Acceptable risk is not a black and white issue. I'm not suggesting that people should continue getting their haircut as if nothing happened -- in fact, I'd caution against it for those that are high-risk populations. A healthy, low-risk person probably has a better chance of getting struck by lightning than dying of COVID infection due to a 15-30 minute interaction with their barber who is wearing a mask appropriately and changing their gloves between each customer.
 
Eielson said:
I agree that there is risk going to get your haircut -- that much is undeniable. However, risk is always present in nearly everything we do. Acceptable risk is not a black and white issue. I'm not suggesting that people should continue getting their haircut as if nothing happened -- in fact, I'd caution against it for those that are high-risk populations. A healthy, low-risk person probably has a better chance of getting struck by lightning than dying of COVID infection due to a 15-30 minute interaction with their barber who is wearing a mask appropriately and changing their gloves between each customer.
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Sure, but a healthy low-risk person might spread the virus to other people who are not as healthy and low-risk. That's the issue. Same with opening schools. Of course the kids are very low risk, but everyone they come in contact with is not.
 
steverocks35 said:
Sure, but a healthy low-risk person might spread the virus to other people who are not as healthy and low-risk. That's the issue. Same with opening schools. Of course the kids are very low risk, but everyone they come in contact with is not.
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If that barber infected 5-10 people that they exposed, I'd find that article very alarming. As of now, the number appears to be 0, so I'm not alarmed. Assuming proper precautions (wearing a mask, changing gloves between each haircut, not coming in if you're coughing, etc), I feel that haircuts are relatively low-risk even if the barber happens to be a carrier.

I will admit that I'm dissapointed if it's true that the barber continued to work despite mild respiratory symptoms. That is unacceptable.
 
Eielson said:
If that barber infected 5-10 people that they exposed, I'd find that article very alarming. As of now, the number appears to be 0, so I'm not alarmed. Assuming proper precautions (wearing a mask, changing gloves between each haircut, not coming in if you're coughing, etc), I feel that haircuts are relatively low-risk even if the barber happens to be a carrier.

I will admit that I'm dissapointed if it's true that the barber continued to work despite mild respiratory symptoms. That is unacceptable.
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you feel like? based on what?? it's all about breathing space. spending 15 minutes within a few feet of someone's mouth as they talk and breathe is NOT a preferred circumstance. mask or no mask. this would be among the more ignorant things to do.

It exists as a surface contaminant and an aerosol. stay away from other peoples' breathing areas and wash your hands.
 
coolm said:
you feel like? based on what?? it's all about breathing space. spending 15 minutes within a few feet of someone's mouth as they talk and breathe is NOT a preferred circumstance. mask or no mask. this would be among the more ignorant things to do.

It exists as a surface contaminant and an aerosol. stay away from other peoples' breathing areas and wash your hands.
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Based on the exceptionally low rate of physician infection rate despite inadequate PPE and lack of negative-pressure rooms, etc.
 
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