March Madness and Covid-19

[SoonerJK12]

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It could be very likely that the death rate from COVID is actually pretty low since it is pretty much consensus that most people are asymptomatic. If most people are asymptomatic, then those people haven't been tested -- because we have largely only tested symptomatic people...unless you are an NBA player. If that is true, the US has MILLIONS of cases. And if the death rate is very low -- closer to flu, it would take millions of cases in order to start seeing the number of hospitalizations and deaths. This may be why you didn't see hospitals see an influx of serious cases in the beginning -- which very well could have been December.

This would mean that COVID is insanely infectious.

^ A much earlier post of mine that was thought to be outrageous by some on this board.

UPDATE:
The CDC best estimate is that 35% of COVID positive patient are asymptomatic. And the infection fatality rate is some where around 0.5%. But I was assured the asymptomatic rate was around 1-3%.

 

[coolm]

^ A much earlier post of mine that was thought to be outrageous by some on this board.

UPDATE:
The CDC best estimate is that 35% of COVID positive patient are asymptomatic. And the infection fatality rate is some where around 0.5%. But I was assured the asymptomatic rate was around 1-3%.

Who in the world said 1-3%? I've never heard that number. The Iceland and cruise line numbers suggest upwards of 50%.

 

[SoonerJK12]

Who in the world said 1-3%? I've never heard that number. The Iceland and cruise line numbers suggest upwards of 50%.

Steve. He told me that the cruise line data was garbage. And when I brought up Iceland, he told me Iceland was too small to compare.

 

[sheepdogs1]

^ A much earlier post of mine that was thought to be outrageous by some on this board.

UPDATE:
The CDC best estimate is that 35% of COVID positive patient are asymptomatic. And the infection fatality rate is some where around 0.5%. But I was assured the asymptomatic rate was around 1-3%.

A link deciphering the latest CDC analysis.

https://reason.com/2020/05/24/the-c...a-covid-19-infection-fatality-rate-below-0-3/

 

[paboomersooner]

Yep a church in Houston that had reopened had to close again after the pastor died of Covid-19 and several families in the congregation were infected.

My church of 200+ never stopped multiple day, in-person services. We've had...1... known... symptomatic... case. And he's in his 60's. And he's in the band. And he plays the electric guitar and stands next to the saliva spewing, Covid-coughing... choir. And he's back. And he's fine.

We're all big boys and girls. We should all be able to make our own decisions regardless of how "reckless" some may think the decision may or actually be.

In other events, my church-choir-member-wife and I went to a dine-in restaurant in "red" Lebanon County in PA on Saturday evening. One mask in the crowd. The owner took several selfies of the patrons and posted it to social media. A shout out to Wolf, "suck it" style. I'll let you know how it turns out.

Day 2. Symptom free so far! Crossing my fingers!!!:ez-roll::ez-roll::ez-roll:

 

[steverocks35]

Steve. He told me that the cruise line data was garbage. And when I brought up Iceland, he told me Iceland was too small to compare.

I don’t remember saying it was garbage but I did say that you can’t really extrapolate that tiny sample to the whole population and I stand by that, same with Iceland. I think the CDC estimate is high on asymptomatic cases and low on mortality rate based on New York, the numbers don’t really make sense. Some experts are already pushing back on the CDC’s estimate, they say even their worst-case estimate is overly optimistic. They already did an antibody survey in New York and found less than 20% positive. These numbers are all preliminary and we won’t know for sure until months after this is all over. Not really sure why you’re spiking the football.

By the way, the CDC has been lumping direct tests for the virus with antibody testing when reporting the numbers which makes that number worthless. They say they’re going to stop the practice so we will see.

 

[steverocks35]

My church of 200+ never stopped multiple day, in-person services. We've had...1... known... symptomatic... case. And he's in his 60's. And he's in the band. And he plays the electric guitar and stands next to the saliva spewing, Covid-coughing... choir. And he's back. And he's fine.

We're all big boys and girls. We should all be able to make our own decisions regardless of how "reckless" some may think the decision may or actually be.

In other events, my church-choir-member-wife and I went to a dine-in restaurant in "red" Lebanon County in PA on Saturday evening. One mask in the crowd. The owner took several selfies of the patrons and posted it to social media. A shout out to Wolf, "suck it" style. I'll let you know how it turns out.

Day 2. Symptom free so far! Crossing my fingers!!!:ez-roll::ez-roll::ez-roll:

Congratulations, you’re so special

 

[mict085]

A link deciphering the latest CDC analysis.

https://reason.com/2020/05/24/the-c...a-covid-19-infection-fatality-rate-below-0-3/

Yes, it’s time to stop the overreaction and get everyone back to work. Steve and others have been projecting the apocalypse but now we can stop that madness and get the country back to work.

 

[dksooner]

Yes, it’s time to stop the overreaction and get everyone back to work. Steve and others have been projecting the apocalypse but now we can stop that madness and get the country back to work.

AMEN! The overhype from the beginning was crazy, all based on a death model.

 

[coolm]

AMEN! The overhype from the beginning was crazy, all based on a death model.

once again - why don't you guys steer AWAY from your crappy little political opinions? there are families of 100,000+ people and counting who would disagree with you. keeping the initial wave hospitalizations down is far from "based on a death model". if this is beyond your capacity to understand then you should just be silent.

 

[Eielson]

once again - why don't you guys steer AWAY from your crappy little political opinions? there are families of 100,000+ people and counting who would disagree with you. keeping the initial wave hospitalizations down is far from "based on a death model". if this is beyond your capacity to understand then you should just be silent.

It's possible to disagree with somebody without being incredibly rude.

 

[sheepdogs1]

It's possible to disagree with somebody without being incredibly rude.

It is quite hard, if not impossible, to look down on people without such behavior being on display. And this comes from those who proclaim to know better. Know better my arse.

 

[Soonerinkc]

once again - why don't you guys steer AWAY from your crappy little political opinions? there are families of 100,000+ people and counting who would disagree with you. keeping the initial wave hospitalizations down is far from "based on a death model". if this is beyond your capacity to understand then you should just be silent.

not going to jump into your argument...but what's political about wanting to get the country back to work?

Last I looked the POTUS was pub, house dem, senate pub and they all agreed to the shutdown..

just sayin.

Yes, 100K families are upset...8K people die EVERY DAY in the USA of all reasons....Those people are sad as well.

Hospitals are laying off tons of folks because they are NOT FULL.

Just sayin.

 

[sheepdogs1]

not going to jump into your argument...but what's political about wanting to get the country back to work?

Last I looked the POTUS was pub, house dem, senate pub and they all agreed to the shutdown..

just sayin.

Yes, 100K families are upset...8K people die EVERY DAY in the USA of all reasons....Those people are sad as well.

Hospitals are laying off tons of folks because they are NOT FULL.

Just sayin.

And it's another day of exposing at the OK Corral. You are spot on in pointing out there was nothing political involved. In all seriousness of the 100k who passed on is a percentage would have met the same fate if they contracted the flu. Also, many of these people had burdensome health issues and they were not long for this world as some had serious cardiovascular problems and such and time was not on their side.

 

[AdaSooner]

It's possible to disagree with somebody without being incredibly rude.

Amen to that! This thread has violated every rule of common decency this web site stands for. It has its value. But if the violations don’t stop, I will come out of retirement long enough to block this thread and send it to the off-topic forum where it belongs.

 

[coolm]

I find it every bit as rude to express the politics that they continue to keep drumming up - so opinions vary. it's in very poor taste.

 

[mict085]

I find it every bit as rude to express the politics that they continue to keep drumming up - so opinions vary. it's in very poor taste.

Pot meet kettle. You have been just as political, only you’re on the democrat/socialist/communist anti-trump side of the argument.

And you’re a complete jerk about everything.

 

[coolm]

Pot meet kettle. You have been just as political, only you’re on the democrat/socialist/communist anti-trump side of the argument.

And you’re a complete jerk about everything.

yep. just me. to everyone. about everything. even when I only said "mmmm, ok" I typed it in a jerk way.

 

[Eielson]

yep. just me. to everyone. about everything. even when I only said "mmmm, ok" I typed it in a jerk way.

Continuous cycle -

1) You say something rude/abrasive
2) Another poster calls you out on it
3) You play the victim (see above quote)

You are either constantly looking for fights, or you simply don't understand how you're coming across to everybody else. You have gotten the same feedback from numerous posters, some of which are far more model citizen material than myself.

 

[coolm]

actually the cycle is you guys make little political digs and I mind my tongue for a bit then after so many I finally say something and you act all innocent like a wrestler hiding a pipe wrench.

but, call it however you like. we are all the villain in someone's story.