March Madness and Covid-19

[Soonerinkc]

google tony timpa in Dallas....

also, maybe....just maybe they reason some white folks are "scared" of black folks is because 50% of violent crime is by black people...

I taught 30 yrs in the urban core. TONS of great people...with that said...we were told to NOT go to our cars alone at night...NOT go down 3rd street at night...(i'm a white dude...duh).

Why? cause there was lots of violence in the neighborhood.

A good friend who has his Doctorate and has been very high level in education once told me...that he has to deal with the prejudiced of basically whites because of the carload of thugs with their loud rap music, pants hanging down etc...that cruise the white neighborhoods.

just my 2 cents

 

[BCSooners]

I'm not aware of anybody questioning that it's manslaughter. Stating that meth and fentanyl did not contribute to Mr Floyd's death, however, is simply an untenable position.

I'm not defending the police officer. I'm refuting the notion that the state-appointed ME is making false medical statements and acting as a puppet for white supremacists.

I didn’t know that notion was being made.

 

[sheepdogs1]

I think what you are trying to say is that the media, like CNN, Fox, and others make huge stories out of these things to change public opinion in their favor, right?

These kinds of stories are kind of rare on cable news networks like CNN, ABC News, Fox, etc... I will say that local news coverage has been a total disaster for blacks and latinos and has led to some other things we have discussed in this thread, like whites being scared of non-whites. There have been some interesting studies done on this, traditionally (going back decades) local news coverage of black and latino crime has been extremely biased against them.



Right, see my comment above.... It's weird to me that your perspective is that the media makes a big deal about white hate crimes and ignores blacks... Modern lynchings, police brutality, etc are big national stories... but local news, again, has been a complete disaster for blacks and latinos. Hell, multiple studies on the show "Cops" have been done and concluded that the show was biased against blacks.. Once this was discovered, the producers started showing more white crime, which there was plenty of, but they showed mainly white officers arresting black people most of the time.

Maybe I still am reading you wrong, but you seem to be saying that the media makes white on black crime look bad, because they don't report ENOUGH black crime. That just can't be further from the truth.

I think the media treatment for women and gays has changed over the years and has become more favorable to both groups. And because of this it has effected change in society more so than if the status quo was still in effect. I think it is just fair for the media to report hate crime in an equitable manner and not play one side over the other. Fair is fair.

 

[mict085]

Apparently, George had tested positive for COVID, so he’s a COVID death now. Even tho he died as a result of “police custody”, he’ll Go down in history as a COVID death.

 

[thebigabd]

Vic Fangio, head coach of the Denver Broncos, just said he doesn't see racism "at all" in the NFL... He quickly apologized, but if I am John Elway I fire him immediately.

It is ignorant and given the timing and context, is egregious.

He no longer is fit to lead the Broncos or be a leader in the Denver community.

Fire him immediately and bring in the best fit for Denver... Maybe that is a white coach, or maybe it's not.

If I was Denver, I'd get rid of Vic and talk to Eric Bieniemy or Jim Caldwell about as quickly as I can.

 

[Eielson]

I didn’t know that notion was being made.

It was all over social media when the results of the second autopsy were announced (as well as real life people I overheard discussing it). It was taken as "proof" that the first autopsy was fabricated and biased by the systemic racism that plagues our country. Those comments didn't age well once the tox screen results were released.

 

[Eielson]

Vic Fangio, head coach of the Denver Broncos, just said he doesn't see racism "at all" in the NFL... He quickly apologized, but if I am John Elway I fire him immediately.

It is ignorant and given the timing and context, is egregious.

He no longer is fit to lead the Broncos or be a leader in the Denver community.

Fire him immediately and bring in the best fit for Denver... Maybe that is a white coach, or maybe it's not.

If I was Denver, I'd get rid of Vic and talk to Eric Bieniemy or Jim Caldwell about as quickly as I can.

Silence anybody that disagrees with you at all costs.

 

[thebigabd]

It was all over social media when the results of the second autopsy were announced (as well as real life people I overheard discussing it). It was taken as "proof" that the first autopsy was fabricated and biased by the systemic racism that plagues our country. Those comments didn't age well once the tox screen results were released.

Wait, I don't get it... Are you saying George Floyd wasn't murdered?

 

[thebigabd]

Silence anybody that disagrees with you at all costs.

He probably lost the locker room and the respect of the community. I can't imagine a scenario where he isn't done.

 

[sheepdogs1]

He probably lost the locker room and the respect of the community. I can't imagine a scenario where he isn't done.

What proof do you have of racism in the NFL? Can you list those who are racist. If a man says he does not see it does that automatically mean he is covering it up or can it mean he has an optimistic approach to the situation? Is Drew Brees a racist for he is another apologist.

Most NFL players are black. Is the racism only geared from white to black such that none is black on white?

 

[SoonerBounce13]

Vic Fangio, head coach of the Denver Broncos, just said he doesn't see racism "at all" in the NFL... He quickly apologized, but if I am John Elway I fire him immediately.

It is ignorant and given the timing and context, is egregious.

He no longer is fit to lead the Broncos or be a leader in the Denver community.

Fire him immediately and bring in the best fit for Denver... Maybe that is a white coach, or maybe it's not.

If I was Denver, I'd get rid of Vic and talk to Eric Bieniemy or Jim Caldwell about as quickly as I can.

Yeah that is a pretty idiotic thing to say given the circumstances

I'd be interested to know what the racial issues in the NFL are today though

 

[Eielson]

Wait, I don't get it... Are you saying George Floyd wasn't murdered?

No. Reread the previous post.

 

[Eielson]

He probably lost the locker room and the respect of the community. I can't imagine a scenario where he isn't done.

He probably did. And it wasn't a good business move. But I also believe people should be able to respectfully share their opinion.

 

[WTSooner]

He probably did. And it wasn't a good business move. But I also believe people should be able to respectfully share their opinion.

Agreed.

 

[sheepdogs1]

FBI hate crime stats indicate that black people commit hate crime at a rate which exceeds their population base thus if most players in football are black then how could all of the supposed racism in football only come from white players? Again, when it deals with hate crime and racism is all of it taboo or just some of it. I don't get it.

 

[stormspencer]

Silence anybody that disagrees with you at all costs.

Yes....this is the hard left (not liberals, there is a difference) at its core. If you're a public figure and you don't conform to their worldview/perspective, they will attempt to destroy you whether it be personally (public shaming, etc.) or economically. And it's unfortunate that you have to remain silent if you differ from them to any degree....especially in times when tensions are inflamed. People believe what they want to believe....whether it's based in truth or not.

 

[sheepdogs1]

Yes....this is the hard left (not liberals, there is a difference) at its core. If you're a public figure and you don't conform to their worldview/perspective, they will attempt to destroy you whether it be personally (public shaming, etc.) or economically. And it's unfortunate that you have to remain silent if you differ from them to any degree....especially in times when tensions are inflamed. People believe what they want to believe....whether it's based in truth or not.

Ah...the bs artists of the world. What would we do w/o their divine insight.

 

[thebigabd]

FBI hate crime stats indicate that black people commit hate crime at a rate which exceeds their population base thus if most players in football are black then how could all of the supposed racism in football only come from white players? Again, when it deals with hate crime and racism is all of it taboo or just some of it. I don't get it.

You are looking at this through the most narrow hole possible.

Yes....this is the hard left (not liberals, there is a difference) at its core. If you don't conform to their worldview/perspective, they will attempt to destroy you whether it be personally (public shaming, etc.) or economically. And it's unfortunate that you have to remain silent if you differ from them to any degree....especially in times when tensions are inflamed. People believe what they want to believe....whether it's based in truth or not.

Tell me how to eradicate racism without educating oblivious people on what racism even is, and without shaming their world-view.

Should a free society tolerate a racist world-view? It seems to me that you are advocating for people to have the right to be openly racist. Are you not?

I am not saying you are racist, I am just trying to understand what you are saying here.

He probably did. And it wasn't a good business move. But I also believe people should be able to respectfully share their opinion.

Sure, but should opinions ever have consequences?

 

[WTSooner]

Tell me how to eradicate racism.....

I'll stop you right there. I don't think you can.

Racism has been around nearly as long as man has. It doesn't just exist in the good old US of A either. It exists anywhere and everywhere there is a mix of races. You think Europe doesn't fight the same things? I just don't think there is anything people can do or say that is going to change the opinion of those that are racist. I really don't.

 

[sheepdogs1]

You are looking at this through the most narrow hole possible.



Tell me how to eradicate racism without educating oblivious people on what racism even is, and without shaming their world-view.

Should a free society tolerate a racist world-view? It seems to me that you are advocating for people to have the right to be openly racist. Are you not?

I am not saying you are racist, I am just trying to understand what you are saying here.

Sure, but should opinions ever have consequences?

If you want to eradicate it you expose all of it and not some part of it. Killing one termite in the colony that is not the queen accomplishes nothing. And yes, you know this.

But you ignore it and this in itself prevents your wish from ever being granted.