March Madness and Covid-19

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steverocks35 said:
Why is it fake? Yesterday, the day after the rally, the state reported 478 new cases, a record. Monday is a slow reporting day and they still reported over 200 cases, so that's not insubstantial either.
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"Fake News" isn't just reporting info that is fake and inaccurate. It is twisting the data to fit an agenda.

Read that headline and tell me there isn't an agenda in it.
The average reader doesn't read most articles, they few headlines.
If you saw that headline, what conclusions would you draw?
They are tryign to connect a spike in cases to the rally
 
SoonerBounce13 said:
"Fake News" isn't just reporting info that is fake and inaccurate. It is twisting the data to fit an agenda.

Read that headline and tell me there isn't an agenda in it.
The average reader doesn't read most articles, they few headlines.
If you saw that headline, what conclusions would you draw?
They are tryign to connect a spike in cases to the rally
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No they aren't, they're bringing attention to the fact that Trump had a rally in a place where Covid-19 cases are spiking dramatically.
 
steverocks35 said:
Lol, if they were unknown we wouldn't know they were spiking.
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sigh.

The point being, there are undoubtly cases that we will never know about from the last 3 months. Meaning, if we had the testing then that we do now, maybe what we are seeing now isn't a real spike.
 
steverocks35 said:
Why is it fake? Yesterday, the day after the rally, the state reported 478 new cases, a record. Monday is a slow reporting day and they still reported over 200 cases, so that's not insubstantial either.
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You’re showing your political bias again. Now, you’re saying there’s a spike and trying to blame trump. Earlier, when there was a spike during the protesting, you made every excuse as to why it had nothing to do with the protests. As usual, you’re a hypocrite and you lack integrity.
 
mict085 said:
You’re showing your political bias again. Now, you’re saying there’s a spike and trying to blame trump. Earlier, when there was a spike during the protesting, you made every excuse as to why it had nothing to do with the protests. As usual, you’re a hypocrite and you lack integrity.
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I thought the rally was incredibly irresponsible, but I'm not blaming Trump for this spike. If there is a spike from this rally it will be in a few weeks.

As usual, you don't know what you're talking about.
 
SoonerBounce13 said:
sigh.

The point being, there are undoubtly cases that we will never know about from the last 3 months. Meaning, if we had the testing then that we do now, maybe what we are seeing now isn't a real spike.
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Our testing is up 23%, our cases are up 94%
 
steverocks35 said:
That big uptick in percent positives is a huge problem, when that starts climbing and gets close to 10% it means 2 things:

1. You're experiencing a spike in cases.
2. You aren't doing enough testing.
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So you agree that in the past, when it was near 10%, we weren't testing enough and that the number of positives might have been way low right?
 
SoonerBounce13 said:
So you agree that in the past, when it was near 10%, we weren't testing enough and that the number of positives might have been way low right?
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in the early days of testing that number was high because nearly 100% of people tested were symptomatic. It's impossible to draw conclusions when you're only testing around a thousand or fewer people. Also a one or two day spike in positivity rate is mostly meaningless. What's more important is the trend, and we are trending up. In the last couple of months the numbers have stabilized, we are testing 4-5 thousand people a day. In the early days you can see the dark line was jumping around, mostly going down as testing increased dramatically. Now look at the end of May until now, the line is steadily increasing, the positive rate is going up and the last few days we have had a real spike. That is significant.
 
What's funny is those big spikes, all after the weekends, reporting 3 or more days of testing at once lol.
 
steverocks35 said:
in the early days of testing that number was high because nearly 100% of people tested were symptomatic. It's impossible to draw conclusions when you're only testing around a thousand or fewer people. Also a one or two day spike in positivity rate is mostly meaningless. What's more important is the trend, and we are trending up. In the last couple of months the numbers have stabilized, we are testing 4-5 thousand people a day. In the early days you can see the dark line was jumping around, mostly going down as testing increased dramatically. Now look at the end of May until now, the line is steadily increasing, the positive rate is going up and the last few days we have had a real spike. That is significant.
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I'm not saying I disagree, and the recent data does show more people are testing positive. But in the earlier portion of the testing (mid april) we were around 4-7% positive range but our number of tests were relatively low. So my whole point has been that just because we have 400+ new cases a day doesn't mean things are worse than they were earlier.

Also, confusion is added to the lag between when a test was taken, to when the results are back, and when a new cases is counted
 
SoonerBounce13 said:
I'm not saying I disagree, and the recent data does show more people are testing positive. But in the earlier portion of the testing (mid april) we were around 4-7% positive range but our number of tests were relatively low. So my whole point has been that just because we have 400+ new cases a day doesn't mean things are worse than they were earlier.

Also, confusion is added to the lag between when a test was taken, to when the results are back, and when a new cases is counted
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Yes it does mean things are worse, positivity rate then was about 4%. If you had a random spike to 7% it was meaningless because the trend was down the whole time. Now look at the end of May to now, the trend is up up up and now our rates have been 6-7% for over a week. That means we are having a real spike in cases and we aren't testing enough people, and there are no signs that it will go down and no way to make it go down if we aren't taking measures anymore.
 
SoonerBounce13 said:
Great resource here
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states/oklahoma
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Interesting to see that even a month ago Oklahoma had days when they would test almost 20,000 people for COVID and have less than 100 come back positive. So much for the "not having enough tests" narrative. From what I've seen, it has been pretty impressive how quickly we have scaled this testing.

Sure, it'd be nice for us to test every single citizen every morning. It would also be nice if babies didn't cry on planes and could potty-train themselves.
 
steverocks35 said:
Yes it does mean things are worse, positivity rate then was about 4%. If you had a random spike to 7% it was meaningless because the trend was down the whole time. Now look at the end of May to now, the trend is up up up and now our rates have been 6-7% for over a week. That means we are having a real spike in cases and we aren't testing enough people, and there are no signs that it will go down and no way to make it go down if we aren't taking measures anymore.
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I don't think you are reading what I am writing...this is fruitless.


I'm done trying to explain simple concepts to liberals
 
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