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you guys are seriously warped and know absolutely nothing about prisons or the legal system. obviously. this is like a joke.
 
Oklahoma has a new record for new Covid-19 cases in one day, 478 reported today. Wow
 
It's simple really. When you have private, for-profit prison systems, they will constantly be lobbying legislators for laws that send more people to prison. And as long as Citizen's United is the rule of the land, lobbying will include lucrative bribes that aren't against the law. There is no incentive to find ways to rehabilitate people who break the law. More criminals means more profit for the prisons and the corporations that own and run them.
 
MsProudSooner said:
It's simple really. When you have private, for-profit prison systems, they will constantly be lobbying legislators for laws that send more people to prison. And as long as Citizen's United is the rule of the land, lobbying will include lucrative bribes that aren't against the law. There is no incentive to find ways to rehabilitate people who break the law. More criminals means more profit for the prisons and the corporations that own and run them.
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ahhh, much closer to the truth than any of the tripe mentioned above. Make sure to include the federal subsidies and grants. Our state prosecutors and law enforcement are forced to include for them in their agendas just to receive ordinary funding that is denied them by our state legislature in the name of austerity - all while giving HUGE production tax breaks to big oil. "But we don't have any money ..." well no wonder you dont. You subsidized it all away for your lobbying buddies.
 
MsProudSooner said:
It's simple really. When you have private, for-profit prison systems, they will constantly be lobbying legislators for laws that send more people to prison. And as long as Citizen's United is the rule of the land, lobbying will include lucrative bribes that aren't against the law. There is no incentive to find ways to rehabilitate people who break the law. More criminals means more profit for the prisons and the corporations that own and run them.
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lol, why not? If rehab is a private, for-profit system as well, it would be every bit as advantageous as prison.

And I don't think prisons are raking in the cash.
 
coolm said:
ahhh, much closer to the truth than any of the tripe mentioned above. Make sure to include the federal subsidies and grants. Our state prosecutors and law enforcement are forced to include for them in their agendas just to receive ordinary funding that is denied them by our state legislature in the name of austerity - all while giving HUGE production tax breaks to big oil. "But we don't have any money ..." well no wonder you dont. You subsidized it all away for your lobbying buddies.
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It’s a vicious cycle
 
WTSooner said:
lol, why not? If rehab is a private, for-profit system as well, it would be every bit as advantageous as prison.

And I don't think prisons are raking in the cash.
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If Trump and his cronies didn't think there was cash to be made, they wouldn't be for private prisons.
 
MsProudSooner said:
If Trump and his cronies didn't think there was cash to be made, they wouldn't be for private prisons.
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If things could be transferred to the private sector then which sector would it come from?

Would it be the public sector?

Who funds the public sector?

If the onus was not on the public sector would that free up money for the public sector?
 
MsProudSooner said:
It's simple really. When you have private, for-profit prison systems, they will constantly be lobbying legislators for laws that send more people to prison. And as long as Citizen's United is the rule of the land, lobbying will include lucrative bribes that aren't against the law. There is no incentive to find ways to rehabilitate people who break the law. More criminals means more profit for the prisons and the corporations that own and run them.
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While I don't necessarily agree, you're much better at explaining your viewpoint than our delicate little snowflake.
 
MsProudSooner said:
If Trump and his cronies didn't think there was cash to be made, they wouldn't be for private prisons.
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Really? Trump doesn't like ObamaCare, but it's still there. It's not like he can waive a magic wand and do away with a system that has been in place for how long?

Obama was in office for 8 years. Why didn't he change the prison system? This is why I can't stand dems. They come up with new reasons to hate on policy when the GOP is in office, when their people didn't change a damn thing when they had the chance.
 
WTSooner said:
Really? Trump doesn't like ObamaCare, but it's still there. It's not like he can waive a magic wand and do away with a system that has been in place for how long?

Obama was in office for 8 years. Why didn't he change the prison system? This is why I can't stand dems. They come up with new reasons to hate on policy when the GOP is in office, when their people didn't change a damn thing when they had the chance.
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Same thing with immigration reform or he could he have possibly changed the name of "Bureau of Indian Affairs to something less offensive, but nope.
 
WTSooner said:
Really? Trump doesn't like ObamaCare, but it's still there. It's not like he can waive a magic wand and do away with a system that has been in place for how long?

Obama was in office for 8 years. Why didn't he change the prison system? This is why I can't stand dems. They come up with new reasons to hate on policy when the GOP is in office, when their people didn't change a damn thing when they had the chance.
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Would love to hear a retort to this, but won't hold my breath.
 
WTSooner said:
Really? Trump doesn't like ObamaCare, but it's still there. It's not like he can waive a magic wand and do away with a system that has been in place for how long?

Obama was in office for 8 years. Why didn't he change the prison system? This is why I can't stand dems. They come up with new reasons to hate on policy when the GOP is in office, when their people didn't change a damn thing when they had the chance.
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https://www.brennancenter.org/our-w...stration-has-advanced-criminal-justice-reform

He was also the 1st president in over 50 years to reduce the federal prison population.
 
Eielson said:
While I don't necessarily agree, you're much better at explaining your viewpoint than our delicate little snowflake.
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you just become more and more of a punk with every little comment
 
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