March Madness and Covid-19

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Speaking of per capita, we have 5% of the world’s population but we have had 25% of the world’s deaths.
 
thebigabd said:
Yep.... it was their public position in the beginning to do the herd thing, and it cost a lot of lives.
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Spain, Italy and France also have a higher death rate compared to us. Throw in England and most of Western Europe's population centers have a significantly higher mortality rate than here. We have done better from a comparative stance.

Besides England, which of the other 3 countries utilized the "herd" mentality?
 
sheepdogs1 said:
Spain, Italy and France also have a higher death rate compared to us. Throw in England and most of Western Europe's population centers have a significantly higher mortality rate than here. We have done better from a comparative stance.

Besides England, which of the other 3 countries utilized the "herd" mentality?
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I’m not really sure you want to compare us to the EU.
 
Spent a few days in OK. Admittedly, I wasn't out in public much -- but use of masks in public didn't seem significantly worse than the NE.
 
It looks like Buddy Hield became the first Sooner celebrity to contact Covid :-(.
 
255% daily increase?? you guys got what you always wanted ... Oklahoma is #1!! woohooooo

but it's all a communist conspiracy to make everyone get outside so using 5G they can take everyone's x-rays by satellite and do something or other. I lost track of the craziness at that point. You crazies will know I am sure. It's not just Palm Beach.

woo hoo #1
 
tooney said:
I guess you guys never heard the expression,

"The buck stops here!"...........?

Who's supposed to be running the show??? We had people in the different departments of the government that were telling trump what was going to happen.......he ignored them all, until the horses were out of the barn.

That's why we lead the world in covid19 deaths. The United States of America leads the world in deaths from an infectious disease! Let that soak in.....:o

We had the same opportunities to take precautions as every other nation...but why did we have the results we have now. Why did other nations have substantially better outcomes? Why are other nations thinking of banning our tourists?

I'm sure you have rational reasons we're leading the world in deaths from covid 19........
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It's ironic to me that the party that promotes personal responsibility does not apply that same principle to our President.
 
tooney said:
Maybe because trump promised that there would be free testing when this all began....and it ain't over. Because testing is the only rational way to fight the disease.....if you don't test, you can't find the people that are spreading the disease and track them down for quarantine.

Do you think Oklahoma should have had people trying to figure out our response to the disease??? What good does it do for one state to plan a response when every other state does nothing??? The response had and has to be coordinated or you get stupid results.

trump has given up on this because he failed....he wants to move on to something else that isn't such a super clusterfu&k.

By the way, China and India have bigger populations than we do.....

This is an example of what happens when you put people that don't believe in government in charge of the government.

Going to work now.....
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Right. Some times Federal intervention is necessary. We wouldn't ask individual states to fight a war.

This is an example of why the Articles of Confederation was ultimately a failure. 50 different approaches to a problem impacts states who might otherwise be handling things the right way. We had states fighting each other over needed supplies. How is that smart? I mean we know one state that was buying hydroxychloroquine.
 
My state and our country is getting its collective ass kicked by this virus. It's embarrassing. So many countries in east Asia made the tough, hard choices from the beginning and turned the tide on Covid-19. Not us. Not the good, old USofA.

From the top on down, this is a complete failure of communication and leadership.
 
With something so distasteful as isolation you have to be clear and direct. People will only do that under protest ... so all these mixed messages accomplish is giving them fuel to disregard such actions. They're not concerned unless it actually happens to them or theirs. And this is the result.

The buck kept getting passed down because no one wanted to be the bad guy and take charge and we might lose another 100,000+ as a result. So every time someone made the comment about it being "overblown" or "no more deadly than the flu" they should remember that this is what they were reinforcing.
 
Let's give it another 2-3 weeks before we panic. Increased cases doesn't HAVE TO MEAN increased hospitalizations or increased deaths. At least, not at the same rate as the increase in cases. I really don't think we're going to see a jump in hospitalizations or deaths that is in line with the increase in cases. Time will tell.

As for what is going on, outside of a few select things, I don't see a bunch of activities going on that shouldn't be. We had to open up the economy. We had to get people back to work. Should people be wearing their masks more? Maybe, but IMO, it's kind of to each their own. If you are wearing a mask, you are probably safe, regardless of what Bob in the cube next two you decides to do. Him not wearing a mask is more detrimental to HIM than it is to YOU.
 
WTSooner said:
Maybe, but IMO, it's kind of to each their own. If you are wearing a mask, you are probably safe, regardless of what Bob in the cube next two you decides to do. Him not wearing a mask is more detrimental to HIM than it is to YOU.
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NO. no no no no no. You wear the mask for everyone else's protection, not your own. How many millions of times does that have to be said??
 
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coolm said:
NO. no no no no no. You wear the mask for everyone else's protection, not your own. How many millions of times does that have to be said??
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You can't make people do that. So wear your OWN damn mask to protect yourself if you have to be out in public. Those not wanting to are putting themselves more at risk than others. That is their right. And if they come down with the CV and it kills them or affects their lives, that is on them.
 
WTSooner said:
You can't make people do that. So wear your OWN damn mask to protect yourself if you have to be out in public. Those not wanting to are putting themselves more at risk than others. That is their right. And if they come down with the CV and it kills them or affects their lives, that is on them.
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Again, wearing a mask is more about protecting other people than protecting yourself, and yes you can make people do that. In my facility, all people must wear masks.
 
steverocks35 said:
https://www.newswest9.com/amp/article/news/health/coronavirus/north-texas-family-shaken-after-18-relatives-test-positive-for-covid-19-following-surprise-birthday-party/287-ea8960ea-4c3c-40c1-b75e-f4437fe6f836?__twitter_impression=true

Reading this article should give you some idea of how contagious this is. They were in the same house for a couple of hours, doing their best to socially distance. In Oklahoma we have elderly people sitting shoulder to shoulder at casinos.
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Doing their best to social distance?

1. That many people can't socially distance in a normal house.
2. The article has a frickin' picture of them handing on each other. That is not "trying" to social distance.
 
WTSooner said:
Doing their best to social distance?

1. That many people can't socially distance in a normal house.
2. The article has a frickin' picture of them handing on each other. That is not "trying" to social distance.
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This is the sort of thing you see people doing ALL the time, and it’s why people should be wearing masks.
 
steverocks35 said:
Again, wearing a mask is more about protecting other people than protecting yourself, and yes you can make people do that. In my facility, all people must wear masks.
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In a medical facility? You don't say.

Individual businesses can make them, but if you think the Federal or State governments can mandate masks for public, it's not going to happen. Period.

People need to learn to look out for themselves, and stop expecting the government and other people to be 100% committed to looking out for others. That simply isn't reality.
 
WTSooner said:
You can't make people do that. So wear your OWN damn mask to protect yourself if you have to be out in public. Those not wanting to are putting themselves more at risk than others. That is their right. And if they come down with the CV and it kills them or affects their lives, that is on them.
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No, it's not their right. It's the same public question as with vaccinations except in this case it's even more of a priority. This attitude right here is exactly why our country is getting swallowed by this thing. stop being selfish.

I s'pose drunk drivers should be allowed to keep driving as well?

As a matter of fact. there should be a $500 fine if you're caught without one in a set of specified areas. I'd let it also be 40 hrs. CSW making more masks if they wanted to forego the fine. We need to get a handle on this.
 
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